1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Yep.  Love hash browns with sautéed onions cooked in butter in the pan or on the griddle that the bacon just left.  Drain the grease but don’t wipe the pan. And, of course, the bacon.  Very rarely eat them but the flavor is so good.  My favorite pancakes were always the ones from the cast iron skillet camping that followed the bacon.  

During my college days, my buddies and I cooked bacon on Saturday mornings (really closer to 2 PM) and then cooked everything else in the leftover bacon grease... potatoes,  pancakes, eggs... whatever was on the menu.   What a celebration of life we had in those days... We'd spend about 3 straight hours in the kitchen cooking, eating and cleaning.  

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Indeed.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Agreed.  Literally in the last two days, my wife received the news that she's sitting on the precipice of Type II Diabetes.  We are making arrangements right now to change our eating habits... but I will tell you one thing, neither one of us are going to be sacrificing flavor for health benefits.     We are going to find the tasty healthy food, and not force down wheatgrass smoothies because its healthy.  It needs to be both healthy and delicious, or it gets tossed to the side.  The other side of it is portion ratios... more from the leafy green side, and a little bit less from the amazingly delicious but fattier side.  Fortunately, I have a backyard garden producing a lot of leafy greens right now.  

 

Had a wonderful romaine, celery and beet root salad last night... with sauteed beet greens with garlic on the side.   That was paired with spaghetti and meatballs.  My plate, which would normally have been 3/4 spaghetti and meatballs was only 1/2 spaghetti and meatballs.  My wife's plate was 1/4 spaghetti and 3 meatballs.   She didn't finish the spaghetti.   I did.  But, when I went back for seconds... I went back for seconds of everything, greens and spaghetti.  

 

My changes to my eating habits are really about supporting her in her changes.  I am a big man, and I will always be a big man.  I could stand to lose 30 lbs... but doing so, won't change the fact that I am still a big man.

Good to hear that you are both taking your health a little more serious. Eating more veggies is definitely a way to go. Also may I suggest squash "noodles' for your spaghetti and meatballs I personally like it and honestly the meatballs are what it's all about for me anyways. Prayers that your wife can back away from the precipice 

Really bummed to hear about TheAthletic layoffs. It's well worth the price of subscribing.

6 minutes ago, greend said:

Good to hear that you are both taking your health a little more serious. Eating more veggies is definitely a way to go. Also may I suggest squash "noodles' for your spaghetti and meatballs I personally like it and honestly the meatballs are what it's all about for me anyways. Prayers that your wife can back away from the precipice 

I tried spaghetti squash.  Its not for me... its great in theory, but ends up mushy and not 'al dente'.  Pasta needs to be done right, or its not worth eating too.  When the zucchini comes on (which will be soon, I hope - I put in 7 plants), I'll likely skip the pasta and go with the zucchini... not as 'zoodles', but as grilled or broiled slices...

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On 6/4/2020 at 11:12 AM, bpac55 said:

Am I out of line saying Covid news is now falling on deaf ears.   Everything we've been told to do (shelter, social distance, mask, no large groups etc.) has now taken a back seat to protests where every single rule that has been beaten in to us by Gov. Wolf, Levine, the media, commercials, celebrities and the like has been broken.  The 3 color phase for PA has changed every week.  Greennow says if you want to have a gathering outside there are no limits, use your best judgement.  

Gov Wolf was out protesting with hundreds, same with Mayor Helfrich here in York who actually came out and admitted his hypocricy after protesting and lifted all bans in the city of York.  People who were fighting for PA to re-open (no not people who want a haircut or their nails done) were told they were cowards for protesting on the steps.  

It will be interesting to see where our numbers stand in 2 weeks.  They are getting lower by the day.  

Saw this last night.  The above bold is incorrect.  While initial places like NY and NJ have been successful in seeing their curves (and totals) go down significantly, other spots are hitting their peaks.  Florida has recorded 3 straight record days of cases.  Arkansas, who's still technically in an "emergency" state had it's highest single day total of cases yesterday.  Most states, especially in the South and West, are in different stages of their "trend lines".   And then we have to watch each of the areas in which people are protesting.  There have already been people with confirmed cases that were in the marches reportedly.

This thing is far from over, obviously.  It's not gonna "die out".  Not until we get a cure.  But... we already knew this..

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

Really bummed to hear about TheAthletic layoffs. It's well worth the price of subscribing.

I hope they stick around.  I just paid $30 for an annual subscription, got the 50% off deal. 

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

so refusing to pledge or salute ideals i dont agree with is disrespectful to those ideals? 

I totally agree. Would you rather i disrepect my self and my ideals by pledging and saluting to a flag that doesnt represent my ideals???

The disagreement isnt over to salute or not to salute its over our different views of what this country is and was and what we think it should be going forward.

If Americans were respectful they would have brought the union jack with them and pledged allegiance to the queen and mother land, but they werent respectful far from it, they didnt respect those ideals so they made their own and started a new country of their own and were branded as traitors.

Call me a traitor to the current ideals of America of corruption greed inequality and racism, but ill never be a traitor to the original cause that the American flag represented because i whole heartedly  believe in freedom liberty and justice for all and until the country again reflects those values in action not hollow words i will continue to kneel. 

How does saluting the flag effect positive change???

You really have a skewed view of the population during the Revolution.  Many people were loyalists.  A whole lot of people didn’t care one way or the other.  My wife and I have a whole lot of relatives from that time.  Every position from heroes of the Revolution to Loyalists who fought for the king and everything in between. But just about none of them saluted a flag.  Really wasn’t a thing back then. 

How does saluting cause positive change?   Sense of community.  Like when they raised the flag at Ground Zero.   Like the signs we see all over the place during this huge job loss that we are all in this together.  Like folks opening their hearts and wallets to support food banks in this time when our neighbors are in need.  Community matters.  Polarization does not affect positive change.  It causes division.  When 53% of the population opposes kneeling during the anthem, find a better way to make a statement or take action.   I would believe a lot more in Kaepernick trying to achieve change if when he lost his NFL job he went to,law school and became a prosecutor like Kamala Harris or became a police officer to move change from within.  But when a few people don’t salute or sit or kneel, they separate from the community.  I do not object to protest.  I have done it quite a lot myself. But I found dialogue with leaders can achieve change a lot more effectively than demonstration. 

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I tried spaghetti squash.  Its not for me... its great in theory, but ends up mushy and not 'al dente'.  Pasta needs to be done right, or its not worth eating too.  When the zucchini comes on (which will be soon, I hope - I put in 7 plants), I'll likely skip the pasta and go with the zucchini... not as 'zoodles', but as grilled or broiled slices...

Seven zucchini plants, are you crazy? They're like triffids. They'll take over your garden. No, they'll take over your neighborhood.

3 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

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Saw this last night.  The above bold is incorrect.  While initial places like NY and NJ have been successful in seeing their curves (and totals) go down significantly, other spots are hitting their peaks.  Florida has recorded 3 straight record days of cases.  Arkansas, who's still technically in an "emergency" state had it's highest single day total of cases yesterday.  Most states, especially in the South and West, are in different stages of their "trend lines".   And then we have to watch each of the areas in which people are protesting.  There have already been people with confirmed cases that were in the marches reportedly.

This thing is far from over, obviously.  It's not gonna "die out".  Not until we get a cure.  But... we already knew this..

Yep, we just had 1,317, 1,419 and 1,305 new cases the last three days compared to last week where it was between 400 - 600 each day. And we just went to Phase 2 which means everything is now open. 

Im liking our new defensive additions. 

got 3 NY strips to grill for my dad's bday.

Best way to season?  Going on gas grill

3 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

 

 

 

Again guys,  I'm not arguing anything the both of you are saying.  My statement was in reference to the original statement from @WentzFan11 where he stated that we should treat Veterans like "humans"...and part of that is respecting the fact that the majority of them will stand for the National Anthem and they will salute the flag.  Has nothing to do with whether you will stand for the Anthem or salute the flag.  It's whether or not you are willing to respect the fact that they do.

 

Anyway, the timing of this conversation isn't the best now.  The real focus should be on how to prevent want happened to George Floyd now and in the future.  We can get back to the Veterans/National Anthem/Flag conversation at a better time, imo.

 

Yes, we do that, and we appreciate when others do too, but if someone is protesting, the majority of vets I've talked to, don't really mind. It's irksome but not in the face of the reasons for the protest.

24 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I tried spaghetti squash.  Its not for me... its great in theory, but ends up mushy and not 'al dente'.  Pasta needs to be done right, or its not worth eating too.  When the zucchini comes on (which will be soon, I hope - I put in 7 plants), I'll likely skip the pasta and go with the zucchini... not as 'zoodles', but as grilled or broiled slices...

Zucchini noodles are great as well 

57 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

None of the players looking at the SS type position have played it in the Eagles defense. Maybe a touch for Mills.  All have played it in college and Parks has some time in it at Denver.   Frankly, it is a toss up between Epps and Maddox as to who has the next most time at S after Rodney in the Eagles defense.  I don’t know that the lack of OTAs is much of a factor in the competition as all lost that on the field aspect.  Hauck is a holdover coach for Ss but Manuel is new and Vasso promoted.  I expect the Manuel pass defense may look a bit different than the Undlin pass defense.  I suspect the depth chart for team play for that position to start camp is Mills then Parks then Wallace but I also suspect that may change by the time.  Wild cards include, who backs up Rodney and who is third S. When Rodney first signed there was a lot of talk about how Schwartz like interchangeable Ss.  This year the coaches have talked about positionless DB positions. Lots of questions on how they play and scheme pass defense that won’t be answered until the play real games since they play vanilla defense in the PS that puts players on islands to hone skills and test limits..

I think this is the future for defenses, and fingers crossed......it looks like the Eagles are ahead of the game.  I don't even know if the positions "SS" and "FS" are even in their vocabulary anymore, or other NFL defenses for that matter.  If they have 3-4 guys who can play all the DB positions (even if they are only mediocre), the confusion alone could make it a nightmare for an offense.  

7 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

got 3 NY strips to grill for my dad's bday.

Best way to season?  Going on gas grill

Just grilled some for me and my F-I-L last weekend.  I take the strips out a few hours before so they are room temperature.  Season with garlic salt and crushed black pepper (This past time I used a little pink himalayan sea salt bc I like to party), and added a little worcestershire  for tenderizing.  Heated gas grill to 450, 4 minutes on each side.  Ours were HUGE.  A normal size NY strip I typically do 3 min each side, and it comes out medium rare.  

41 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Justice Brandeis's take on the 1st Amendment:

Those who won our independence believed that the final end of the State was to make men free to develop their faculties; and that in its government the deliberative forces should prevail over the arbitrary. They valued liberty both as an end and as a means. They believed liberty to be the secret of happiness and courage to be the secret of liberty. They believed that freedom to think as you will and to speak as you think are means indispensable to the discovery and spread of political truth; that without free speech and assembly discussion would be futile; that with them, discussion affords ordinarily adequate protection against the dissemination of noxious doctrine; that the greatest menace to freedom is an inert people; that public discussion is a political duty; and that this should be a fundamental principle of the American government.

Men feared witches and burnt women. It is the function of speech to free men from the bondage of irrational fears.

Those who won our independence by revolution were not cowards. They did not fear political change. They did not exalt order at the cost of liberty. To courageous, self-reliant men, with confidence in the power of free and fearless reasoning applied through the processes of popular government, no danger flowing from speech can be deemed clear and present, unless the incidence of the evil apprehended is so imminent that it may befall before there is opportunity for full discussion. If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence. 

Many of those same founding fathers that Brandeis referenced almost immediately after ratification of the Bill of Rights passed the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798.  

BTW, Madison’s version of the 2nd Amendment:  

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.

If ratified as Madison wrote, Muhammad Ali would not have been convicted of dodging the draft. 

2 hours ago, justrelax said:

You can deep fry with light olive oil. The smoke point is as high as corn oil.

difference is have to use normal olive oil, but the majority of people buy EVOO. EVOO should be used in marinades and salad dressings and dips, but not for cooking, most of the time. I know you obviously know this, just for others info. When the average Joe thinks of olive oil they think of EVOO because they have always been told that it's the good stuff. I thought like that for a long time too, but as I got more into cooking and looking at smoke points and watching some good old Alton Brown.

15 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

got 3 NY strips to grill for my dad's bday.

Best way to season?  Going on gas grill

Salt and black pepper. Sous vide for an hour at 129 degrees. Resalt with just a touch of brown sugar and sear on a hot grill for two minutes a side. Let rest for 10 minutes.

29 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Seven zucchini plants, are you crazy? They're like triffids. They'll take over your garden. No, they'll take over your neighborhood.

Yessir!   I could eat those things three times a day, every day for the entire summer.   I'll even start a few new seeds in a few weeks to replace the ones that will undoubtedly be attacked by squash vine borers.  

 

The key is to go out and harvest (or check) daily.  They should be harvested before they even get any kind of seeds developing inside the fruit.   6-8 inches long.  But, if I harvest a 6 inch fruit, that's not enough for the family, so I need 5 or 6 of them for us to be a full veggie serving.   They also make great zucchini breads.  I also use them in place of lasagna noodles and make 'veggie' lasagna from them.   For something different, they can be cut into thin rounds, topped with fresh grated parmesan and roasted.   They can be made into Zucchini parmesan, and (IMO) its much better than eggplant parmesan, with far less effort.

 

In a nutshell... zucchini are my second favorite home grown veggie... right behind tomatoes.

8 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Just grilled some for me and my F-I-L last weekend.  I take the strips out a few hours before so they are room temperature.  Season with garlic salt and crushed black pepper (This past time I used a little pink himalayan sea salt bc I like to party), and added a little worcestershire  for tenderizing.  Heated gas grill to 450, 4 minutes on each side.  Ours were HUGE.  A normal size NY strip I typically do 3 min each side, and it comes out medium rare.  

are you rubbing the salt/pepper on like a rub or just sprinkling on?

20 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

got 3 NY strips to grill for my dad's bday.

Best way to season?  Going on gas grill

IMO, salt and pepper is all that is needed...  BUT... if you have a bit of garlic butter, you can put them on top just as you pull them off the grill and let it melt over the top while its resting.

4 minutes ago, twistr said:

difference is have to use normal olive oil, but the majority of people buy EVOO. EVOO should be used in marinades and salad dressings and dips, but not for cooking, most of the time. I know you obviously know this, just for others info. When the average Joe thinks of olive oil they think of EVOO because they have always been told that it's the good stuff. I thought like that for a long time too, but as I got more into cooking and looking at smoke points and watching some good old Alton Brown.

Another trick I’ve used over the years is if you only have EVOO around, you can use about 75% EVOO and about 25% canola/corn oil and it will work like a charm if you’re looking for a higher "fry” temperature.  You still get the good taste/health from the EVOO while only using 25% of the lesser oils. 

25 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

got 3 NY strips to grill for my dad's bday.

Best way to season?  Going on gas grill

For strips I use cast iron, salt pepper season, olive oil, butter, whole clove of garlic and rosemary on bottom of the pan. Sear one side, flip and sear the other while basting with oil/butter, finish in the oven. 

Be careful on the grill, it's a leaner cut so easier to over cook and dry out.

15 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Many of those same founding fathers that Brandeis referenced almost immediately after ratification of the Bill of Rights passed the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798.  

BTW, Madison’s version of the 2nd Amendment:  

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.

If ratified as Madison wrote, Muhammad Ali would not have been convicted of dodging the draft. 

Did Madison articulate an exemption for bone spurs?

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

For strips I use cast iron, salt pepper season, olive oil, butter, whole clove of garlic and rosemary on bottom of the pan. Sear one side, flip and sear the other while basting with oil/butter, finish in the oven. 

Be careful on the grill, it's a leaner cut so easier to over cook and dry out.

That's why sous vide is the best way to go. Perfect every time.