For those too lazy to click on the Instagram link. 

11 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

For those too lazy to click on the Instagram link. 

lol yeah....he is in major back track mode. Honestly, they need to get rid of the anthem before games at this point. Let them kneel before kickoff or whatever and the rest of us don't have to feel like the flag or anthem are being disrespected regardless of what people say it is about.

3 hours ago, hputenis said:

Holy moly!  I'm trying to be more open-minded, especially because of everything that has happened over the last few weeks.  Please keep that in mind.  But when you lead an organization or a group within an organization, sometimes people make more money than others.  If we come across an amazing producer from a competitor that wants to make a move to our company, he/she makes more than the new employee out of college.  We give that experienced person a shot, and he/she is held accountable to higher numbers than a junior person that has to goes through lots and lots of training.  

Culture is everything in business..........especially now.  When (in your opinion) would be a good time to openly discuss salaries for each employee in a commission driven industry?  

There’s definitely a difference when you have experienced employees that are held to higher standards. I do agree with you that it does not apply as much in a commission driven industry. However, discrimination does exist in the workplace and we still have a wage gap between genders across industries. It will only benefit the employees when they speak openly about their salaries. Their pay as a whole will be higher and they will be more likely to stick around longer as the employees won’t question if they’re being paid what they’re worth. 
 

We’re still a long ways away from this information being shared company wide or having a discussion between the employer and employee, but it still is worth discussing between employees.

The whole 'Kaepernick is unpatriotic' thing is pure BS propaganda. To a veteran like myself, very comfortable in knowing what is respectable or not with regards to the flag or anthem, this is laughable evidence the person parroting these lines is completely indoctrinated.

Only it's not laughable. It's sad. Someone is selling you guys on a dictatorship, and many are buying in. They've learned how to tickle your inner racist just like Hitler did with the Germans, and 40% of the country has bought in. I can't wait to have a fight in this country between those wanting a dictatorship and those wanting a democracy because that's WW2 all over again; the greatest, most clear cut war this country ever fought.

I lived most of my life before fox news and the wholesale indoctrination that came with it. I want to get back on the track we were on in the 60s toward being the democracy the world adored and respected; which I remember well. We'll never have that again with 40% of the country indoctrinated as it is. At this point, we'll have to tear down before we can build back up, and that is truly sad.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

For those too lazy to click on the Instagram link. 

How ridiculous...

9 hours ago, Utebird said:

Whats so great about this country in your opinion???

You really have trouble reading and comprehending a post? That said and I'm serious on this and hate to say it. But maybe you should sit down and make a list of things you don't like and things you do about America and if you feel the good things don't far outweigh the bad ones and you feel that the bad ones will never change. Then maybe you should think about relocating for your own happiness and well being. 

Now please this will be my last post on the matter for a while at least. We have debated this enough in here.

I love living here and fully realize that it's not perfect I believe that the country continues to grow in the right direction in some ways but maybe the wrong way in others.  But it's not finished and it will probably never be a utopia. Nothing on this earth will ever be a utopia. 

Thanks for the debate and I seriously hope the turmoil the country is going through is effective in making a positive change. 

7 hours ago, justrelax said:

Shouldn’t be. With a mortar and pestle aioli takes five minutes, including cleaning up.

Man... you never give up with the mortal and pestle.  Lol. 

On 6/4/2020 at 6:38 PM, HazletonEagle said:

I suppose you did not see the video but there sure is evidence. Undeniable evidence.

Of course it obviously wasnt justifiable use of force, what they did at the end. He was uncooperative but not threatening in any way. Theres no way he ever should have ended up dead. He probably deserved a little dead legger with the baton to weaken him up for a second so they could shove him in the car. Nothing more. (And before anyone thinks thats horrible and racist Id suggest the same treatment for a white person that causes the police to struggle for minutes trying to shove him in the car while he resists it as well).

As I was trying to find out before, after they gave up on getting him in the car because of his resistance, and they pinned him on the ground, Id really like to know what the next step was supposed to be. What were they waiting on? The only thing that makes sense to me is if there was a different vehicle with a larger door such as a van that they could more easily throw him in. But I dont know...

 

 

Incredible and wrong on all counts. Yes I’ve seen every video and more, that’s all I’ll say. No it was not justifiable in any way, and there was no evidence as I said. 
 

no there would not have been cause to go to the baton. 
 

no they were not waiting for a different vehicle to "throw him in.”  
 

im trying to help you but you’re digging deeper and deeper. This is not a close call. This is a murder. 

On 6/4/2020 at 7:01 PM, HazletonEagle said:

the "exhaust all other means before shooting" could be a big problem that results in a lot more officers losing life, or ending up behind bars when they shouldnt. 

Sometimes with a violent person coming at you you dont have time go complete the checklist to talk/deescalate, and if that doesnt work, use pepper spray, and if that doesnt work use a club, and if that doesnt work use a stun gun, and if that doesnt work then use your gun. 

I mean come on. Its just not realistic when an officer has a split second to react in a life or death situation where the fight or flight response is activated and he is going on survival instinct. 

Nor is that what it means...

On 6/4/2020 at 8:10 PM, HazletonEagle said:

yeah. like caring about our veterans. you just continue to refuse to acknowledge the other side. 

May I ask if you’re a veteran?  

On 6/4/2020 at 6:38 PM, HazletonEagle said:

I suppose you did not see the video but there sure is evidence. Undeniable evidence.

 

Why don’t you link to the video you think shows this.  I assume you mean the dragon wok tape?  You’re going against days of coverage and the plain view read on the footage. Can you share your link? 
 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/may/29/death-george-floyd-what-you-need-know/

Additional videos show no resistance

As protests mounted, so did the evidence that Floyd had not resisted arrest, as the police report said.

One witness told CNN he did not think Floyd was resisting arrest. The owner of Cup Foods said that surveillance video from his store does not show Floyd resisting arrest.

Other publicly available videos — including one video captured by a bystander from their car and another pulled from the surveillance tape of a nearby Dragon Wok restaurant — show Floyd stepping out of his car with no apparent resistance.

According to the Minneapolis Police Department’s policy and procedure manual, neck restraints that are meant to control are allowed only against "a subject who is actively resisting." 

Neck restraints that are designed to knock someone unconscious are reserved as last-ditch measures for dealing with aggressive resistance, per the manual.

Floyd’s family has called for murder charges to be filed against the officers, as has Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, who said May 27 that he "saw nothing that would signal that this kind of force was necessary" and that the knee-to-neck technique "should not be used, period."
 

The idea that there is "undeniable evidence” of resistance is not accurate.  Coming from a veteran and six year federal LEO who has seen use of force in both realms... if you’ve seen otherwise, please share. 

8 hours ago, ManuManu said:

For those too lazy to click on the Instagram link. 

Brees isnt the one who made it about the anthem and flag, lets be 100% crystal clear about that

This is just the open and blatant double standard on display, and white people have to just live with it or theyre called a racist. 

Sure sounds like a great avenue for the dialogue everyone pretends they're pining for. In reality, it is "agree with me or youre a racist"

Im sure they'll change a ton of minds that way.  Shutting down one side of a conversation sounds like a great idea

1 hour ago, Allhaildawk said:

Why don’t you link to the video you think shows this.  I assume you mean the dragon wok tape?  You’re going against days of coverage and the plain view read on the footage. Can you share your link? 
 

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/may/29/death-george-floyd-what-you-need-know/

Additional videos show no resistance

As protests mounted, so did the evidence that Floyd had not resisted arrest, as the police report said.

One witness told CNN he did not think Floyd was resisting arrest. The owner of Cup Foods said that surveillance video from his store does not show Floyd resisting arrest.

Other publicly available videos — including one video captured by a bystander from their car and another pulled from the surveillance tape of a nearby Dragon Wok restaurant — show Floyd stepping out of his car with no apparent resistance.

According to the Minneapolis Police Department’s policy and procedure manual, neck restraints that are meant to control are allowed only against "a subject who is actively resisting." 

Neck restraints that are designed to knock someone unconscious are reserved as last-ditch measures for dealing with aggressive resistance, per the manual.

Floyd’s family has called for murder charges to be filed against the officers, as has Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, who said May 27 that he "saw nothing that would signal that this kind of force was necessary" and that the knee-to-neck technique "should not be used, period."
 

The idea that there is "undeniable evidence” of resistance is not accurate.  Coming from a veteran and six year federal LEO who has seen use of force in both realms... if you’ve seen otherwise, please share. 

Nope. That's not the video that shows it.  You're wrong. And also not helpful.  Nice ASSumption mr officer.

7 hours ago, macgregor said:

The whole 'Kaepernick is unpatriotic' thing is pure BS propaganda. To a veteran like myself, very comfortable in knowing what is respectable or not with regards to the flag or anthem, this is laughable evidence the person parroting these lines is completely indoctrinated.

Only it's not laughable. It's sad. Someone is selling you guys on a dictatorship, and many are buying in. They've learned how to tickle your inner racist just like Hitler did with the Germans, and 40% of the country has bought in. I can't wait to have a fight in this country between those wanting a dictatorship and those wanting a democracy because that's WW2 all over again; the greatest, most clear cut war this country ever fought.

I lived most of my life before fox news and the wholesale indoctrination that came with it. I want to get back on the track we were on in the 60s toward being the democracy the world adored and respected; which I remember well. We'll never have that again with 40% of the country indoctrinated as it is. At this point, we'll have to tear down before we can build back up, and that is truly sad.

More like those wanting a dictatorship and those wanting communism 

22 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Nope. That's not the video that shows it.  You're wrong. And also not helpful.  Nice ASSumption mr officer.

Hey, I finally got around to posting the Kaep quote. It's on page 740.  

28 minutes ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

Hey, I finally got around to posting the Kaep quote. It's on page 740.  

Good post.

I dont think Kaepernick has grown though. I dont think he cares about them. Hes got tunnel vision and doesnt care who else he offends on his quest. 

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

Brees isnt the one who made it about the anthem and flag, lets be 100% crystal clear about that

This is just the open and blatant double standard on display, and white people have to just live with it or theyre called a racist. 

Sure sounds like a great avenue for the dialogue everyone pretends they're pining for. In reality, it is "agree with me or youre a racist"

Im sure they'll change a ton of minds that way.  Shutting down one side of a conversation sounds like a great idea

It's ridiculous.  His teammates sure got to him and now he has the pedal to the metal to "make it right".  He shouldn't have to that's the problem but like you said, if not then he's a racist. 

There is no doubt there is racism in our country.  No one is denying that.  What's funny is the true racists (KKK and related groups) from what I have seen have been totally silent.  I haven't read one article or seen one news story talking about any alt-right groups out there causing trouble or voicing their anger towards blacks.  There was the original media claim that they were the ones looting but we know that's not true.   Disclaimer...I do not support ANY of these organizations, I'm just writing an observation relating to what's happening right now.

No, what I see out there are white people who aren't racist trying to speak for the black community, thus taking the voice away from the black man and putting the spotlight on whites.  Look how great we are!!! We are white and we love black people.  It's becoming all for show now.  I've watched countless videos of white people kissing, yes kissing the boots of black men asking for forgiveness.  Mass groups of white people kneeling before blacks.  At first I saw it as a small sign of respect.  A police officer laying down his weapons to walk arm in arm with his brothers.  Great message.  But that isn't what it is anymore.  Now it's turning all about the white people.

Now look at the following:

LEGO has pulled all of their police sets because they could be offensive.

This sends a bad message if you ask me.  What this is saying is ANY image of the police is racist.  All cops are racist.  The more we spread a message that all cops are racist the more hate that will brew for them.  The more hate people have towards police will cause a lack of respect.  That  lack of respect will then cause people to not listen or act out to police.  This will then cause the police to have to take further action which soon enough will turn in to another death.  And we are back to square one.

What LEGO should do is keep selling police kits, add black figurines to their police force (if they haven't already) and then donate all proceeds from their police sets to further officer training. Give kids something to aspire to be.  Make them want to be the change.  They are doing the opposite.  Police bad.

Should children no longer want to be a police officer when they grow up?  That's the message that's being sent out if you ask me.

 

We have to ask ourselves what is the end game?  What's the goal?  100% racism free United States?  Safer, no racist police?  Equality across the board?  Reparations?  I ask this because we are being told to listen.  I'm listening to a lot of the voices out there and none of the messages are the same.  

 

 

43 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Good post.

I dont think Kaepernick has grown though. I dont think he cares about them. Hes got tunnel vision and doesnt care who else he offends on his quest. 

I think this is true and I think you have it too.

43 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Good post.

I dont think Kaepernick has grown though. I dont think he cares about them. Hes got tunnel vision and doesnt care who else he offends on his quest. 

It would be good to hear from him to see if this is so or not.

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

More like those wanting a dictatorship and those wanting communism 

In our world, I find it difficult to discern the difference between the two.  

13 minutes ago, justrelax said:

I think this is true and I think you have it too.

I dont agree.

13 minutes ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

It would be good to hear from him to see if this is so or not.

no. it wouldnt be good to hear from him. 

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I dont agree.

no. it wouldnt be good to hear from him. 

People change, learn, etc.

19 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

I like to F around with cooking steaks and reverse sear is my personal favorite way to do it without buying sous vide equipment etc.  

Salt and pepper seasoning +/-garlic powder to your preference.  If possible do it the night before and leave in the fridge overnight (dries things out more which lets you get a better sear which ironiocaly means a moister steak).  Bring it out like an hour before cooking to get it to room temperature. Put the steaks on a wire rack over a rimmed baking sheet.  Put in the oven at a very low temperature (as low as 200 if you have a really good oven, 225-250 if yours is just OK like mine).  Cook until you get around 15 degrees below your desired cooking temp (medium rate is about 130 so aim for about 115, about a half hour in the oven).  You can do this on the grill by putting it on the unlit side of the grill and they can cook via indirect heat, but it's a little trickier that way.  While this is happening get the grill up very very high.  Once the steak is done take it out and put directly on the super hot grill flipping every 15 seconds or so until you have a crisp char on all sides, including the edges if the steaks are fat enough (about a minute and a half total).  If you're feeling saucy brush with some garlic herb butter intermittently as you're flipping, if not just spoon some on as you're letting it rest for a few minutes.

The goal is to get an evenly cooked steak at the desired temp without too much edge browning, while still getting that crust and the maillard reaction flavor that comes with it.  Get it right and the end goal should look kinda like this (not my picture).

I just got a Traeger Timberline and I’ve been wanting to try the reverse sear with it and the Weber Genesis I have right next to it for the final step.  That looks fantastic!

13 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

ah ha! But the flag is just a flag right? Just an object? So if it doesnt represent the country (according to you kneel supporters) then what has the flag itself done to you? 

So you ARE disrespecting it out of spite because you do feel it represents the country. Even though you all have argued for years now that the protest was never about the veterans or the flag. hmm...

Interesting. Ill start calling you Joel "Do a 180" Embiid.

I think you misunderstand.

The country to me doesnt currently represent the values it originally was intended to. A flag os a rep of a country and its values.Any flag can represent anything and for some may have different meaning to them.

For instance the confederate flag to me represents racism others it reps southern pride.

The American Flag represents freedom liberty and justice for all i feel those values arent being upheld in the country it represents,as such I choose not to pledge to a flag to a country that represents those values. When one salutes or pledges to a flag one is pledging to the country and the values that country represents. We do it from first day in kibdergarten its drummed into your head, think about the words during the pledge and what a pledge is. Why does a 5 year old need to daily pledge allegiance to ones country? Its a form of brainwashing, to conform to a certain set of ideals.  I chose to break away from the conformity and choose to think for myself, luckily in america im afforded that freedom.

Not sure where you are going with the you all comments, this isnt an AH ha moment you havent caught any body in anything.

Good try though😒

10 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

lol yeah....he is in major back track mode. Honestly, they need to get rid of the anthem before games at this point. Let them kneel before kickoff or whatever and the rest of us don't have to feel like the flag or anthem are being disrespected regardless of what people say it is about.

LOL yea, right.

At this point expect a pre- and post anthem segment so they can discuss each and every player who did something, book-ended by military ads.

There's no going back now.