6 hours ago, BigEFly said:

I slept five hours a day from when I was in college while working full time until I retired.  I try to sleep eight hours now.  Managed seven last night.  But you are still working so i understand the value of the weekend time off for you.

You'll have to tell me your secret I rarely sleep longer than 6 hours whether I want to or not.

12 minutes ago, greend said:

You'll have to tell me your secret I rarely sleep longer than 6 hours whether I want to or not.

I slept for a week one night

17 minutes ago, Utebird said:

George Floyds mother would disagree😒

Doesnt answer my question

and the system doesnt produce all winners. Thats the point. Its not supposed to.

people make choices and often have to deal with the consequences. The cop made a horrible decision and will rightfully rot in jail. I have no sympathy for him.

 

23 minutes ago, greend said:

I have sicilian heritage I brown up nice in the summer sun. That said the older I get the more I hate heat and cold......weird

I have a lot of Irish in my blood... so I lobster up nicely.   I worked construction one summer in college.  That whole summer I was just dark dark RED.  Only felt the burn the first week.  After that, I figured I'd burned off the nerve endings.  Already had one skin cancer removed, and multiple pre-cancerous spots frozen off.  In fact, I have an appointment on Monday to have another spot checked.   Such is life for a fair skinned boy who likes gardening.   My dad gets MOHS treatments as frequently as Medicare will allow.  He claims he's just getting to heaven one piece at a time.  🤣

Just like if floyd wasn't doing something wrong he wouldn't have had the police called in the first place

yes the officer was wrong in what he did and yes deserves jail

But floyd is no way innocent in this either and deserves some of the blame also

He's a career criminal even held a gun to a pregnant black woman's belly while robbing her house

Some could say he didn't deserve to be out on the streets in first place

34 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

 

and the system doesnt produce all winners. Thats the point. Its not supposed to.

 

 

Its almost as if its set up to be un equal😒

As to your question. Im not worried about my " country mens" respect.

The respect of my wife my children my family and friends and my God come first. I dont define my self first by the country in which i live, im a child of god first a human second a son a husband a father a friend and somewhere down the line an american, as such i give more attention and credence towards their respect than my country mens.

Technically speaking american white supremacist are my country man, should i be worried about their respect?

17 minutes ago, Michaels maniacs said:

yes the officer was wrong in what he did and yes deserves jail

But floyd is no way innocent in this either and deserves some of the blame also

He's a career criminal even held a gun to a pregnant black woman's belly while robbing her house

Some could say he didn't deserve to be out on the streets in first place

Youre part of the problem

32 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I was reading articles on Yahoo. Those are linked from all different news outlets. I have no idea where it originated. 

I know the day I saw it and mentioned it in here another poster saw it and agreed. 

You know a video that shows him doing wrong will never be wide spread in the news. No one wants to talk about the fact he resisted. They'd be a racist cop apologist. And though his death is horrible and undeserved,  he would be alive today if he sat the hell down in the cop car when they tried repeatedly to put him in. But we won't talk about that. Sounds too much like victim blaming. 

You’re really hiding behind "fake news?”  You keep talking about throwing him in a car. There was never an attempt to put him in a car or transport him...  

Your argument makes no sense. You saw this all over the place on various outlets and somebody else did too... but you can’t find it?  Should be easy to find then, right?  You’re way over your skis on this one man.  You attacked me for no reason. I’m now a biglaw partner, not an agent anymore. I never made an assumption.  How about this, find me a link to the video OR a link to an article in ANY media outlet claiming he resisted. Surely the right outlets would be printing this if it existed....  just find me one article. Or....maybe it’s time to admit you went a little too far?  

I'm not part of the problem 

I just put the blame where its deserved

Both sides

Your ignorance and blindness is what the problem is my friend 

23 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Its almost as if its set up to be un equal😒

As to your question. Im not worried about my " country mens" respect.

The respect of my wife my children my family and friends and my God come first. I dont define my self first by the country in which i live, im a child of god first a human second a son a husband a father a friend and somewhere down the line an american, as such i give more attention and credence towards their respect than my country mens.

Technically speaking american white supremacist are my country man, should i be worried about their respect?

Youre part of the problem

UnequaL results? Yes thats what a functional system produces

if you think everyone is of equal ability and work ethic you are too naive to warrant respect

8 minutes ago, Michaels maniacs said:

I'm not part of the problem 

I just put the blame where its deserved

Both sides

Your ignorance and blindness is what the problem is my friend 

Years ago, before your time, there was a marvelous thriller writer and columnist named Ross Thomas. In the novel Out on the Rim he has a character, Maurice Overby, called by all who knew him as Otherguy Overby, because it was always some other guy’s fault.

Here’s looking at you, Maurice.

I never said it was just floyds fault

I said it was both

Learn to read dude

39 minutes ago, Michaels maniacs said:

yes the officer was wrong in what he did and yes deserves jail

But floyd is no way innocent in this either and deserves some of the blame also

He's a career criminal even held a gun to a pregnant black woman's belly while robbing her house

Some could say he didn't deserve to be out on the streets in first place

Even if one could take race out of the equation it’s become pretty apparent over the past week that policing methods need fundamental reform.  Look at what those 2 officers did to that 75-year old-guy in Buffalo.  He posed minimal if any threat to that throng of fifty police officers, and they very nearly killed him by depositing him backwards onto a concrete landing — then the police force LIED about it, saying he tripped and fell.

More than 1,000 people in the US are killed by police in each of the last few years; that number should provoke some meaningful changes.  Doesn’t seem like it does, though

47 minutes ago, Utebird said:

 

Youre part of the problem

Actually hes not. 

47 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

You’re really hiding behind "fake news?”  You keep talking about throwing him in a car. There was never an attempt to put him in a car or transport him...  

Your argument makes no sense. You saw this all over the place on various outlets and somebody else did too... but you can’t find it?  Should be easy to find then, right?  You’re way over your skis on this one man.  You attacked me for no reason. I’m now a biglaw partner, not an agent anymore. I never made an assumption.  How about this, find me a link to the video OR a link to an article in ANY media outlet claiming he resisted. Surely the right outlets would be printing this if it existed....  just find me one article. Or....maybe it’s time to admit you went a little too far?  

You are wrong... why don't you give up till you find the video and realize you're wrong?

I also noticed in this post that you can't read.  Work on that too.

24 minutes ago, Michaels maniacs said:

I'm not part of the problem 

I just put the blame where its deserved

Both sides

Your ignorance and blindness is what the problem is my friend 

So when it comes to racism, inequality, police brutality,  what are both sides of the racism and inequality equation?

8 minutes ago, Michaels maniacs said:

I never said it was just floyds fault

I said it was both

Learn to read dude

I actually wouldn't blame floyd for this one and it's pretty much the first time ever that I put 100% of the blame on the officers. 

Yes,  Floyd is a bad man and the media has portrayed him as an angel. But those past incidents have nothing to do with this one. 

Yes, he should have learned from so many black men needing killed by police before him.  Yet he still resisted. If he sat down when they were trying to greet him in the car he would be alive.  He made them go to pan B. But his resistance was not violent or threatening.  It was equal to a toddler throwing a temper tantrum when you try to buckle them in to their car seat. 4 officers should have been able to get him in.   Plan B never should have resulted in his death.  That's 100% on those officers.

1 hour ago, greend said:

You'll have to tell me your secret I rarely sleep longer than 6 hours whether I want to or not.

No TV or computer/phone/iPad an hour before I go sleep.  It took me a while to work toward 8.  Used to be when I was working if I woke up, my mind would get to working and I could not get back to sleep. Now I go to the bathroom (age) with only the nightlight on and then crawl back into bed.  Works most of the time. 

39 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

You are wrong... why don't you give up till you find the video and realize you're wrong?

I also noticed in this post that you can't read.  Work on that too.

Just digging deeper. It’s pathetic. I thought you had intellectual honesty. You don’t apparently. I’m the only one making reasoned points. I’m the only one offering any support or sourcing for my points. 
 

your attitude is "I’ve seen a video that I won’t show any evidence of, that purportedly shows something I won’t offer any evidence of, and YOURE WRONG unless you can disprove it.”  Not really how it works. 
 

ive seen a video of HE killing a cowboys fan in 2009 and unless he can find that video and disprove me, HES WRONG.  Huh?  You’re going to pretend that’s logic? 

be better than the "can’t read” ad hominem bs, especially when it makes no sense. All you’re proving is that you don’t have the integrity to admit you’ve gone too far. 
 

Or, once again, show the video/link. If it exists....

55 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Years ago, before your time, there was a marvelous thriller writer and columnist named Ross Thomas. In the novel Out on the Rim he has a character, Maurice Overby, called by all who knew him as Otherguy Overby, because it was always some other guy’s fault.

Here’s looking at you, Maurice.

All this discussion and I have only added one poster to ignore. 

11 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

Just digging deeper. It’s pathetic. I thought you had intellectual honesty. You don’t apparently. I’m the only one making reasoned points. I’m the only one offering any support or sourcing for my points. 
 

your attitude is "I’ve seen a video that I won’t show any evidence of, that purportedly shows something I won’t offer any evidence of, and YOURE WRONG unless you can disprove it.”  Not really how it works. 
 

ive seen a video of HE killing a cowboys fan in 2009 and unless he can find that video and disprove me, HES WRONG.  Huh?  You’re going to pretend that’s logic? 

be better than the "can’t read” ad hominem bs, especially when it makes no sense. All you’re proving is that you don’t have the integrity to admit you’ve gone too far. 
 

Or, once again, show the video/link. If it exists....

The bolded is completely wrong.

As for the rest, all the time youve spent bishing about a link I dont care to find for you because Ive already seen it, could have been spent finding the link yourself and becoming informed. 

And, you cant read. Maybe try re-reading some previous posts and see if you can spot all your mistakes.

Ummmmm so wow what a huge Philly march.  Honestly, Wolf and Levine don't have a leg to stand on with keeping things closed after seeing that.  

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Ummmmm so wow what a huge Philly march.  Honestly, Wolf and Levine don't have a leg to stand on with keeping things closed after seeing that.  

Im sure Wolf knows this isnt healthy and all the same percations hes urged us to take are still right. But he really cant tell these people not to protest. He will get the Drew Brees treatment. Big racist bad guy. 

49 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Even if one could take race out of the equation it’s become pretty apparent over the past week that policing methods need fundamental reform.  Look at what those 2 officers did to that 75-year old-guy in Buffalo.  He posed minimal if any threat to that throng of fifty police officers, and they very nearly killed him by depositing him backwards onto a concrete landing — then the police force LIED about it, saying he tripped and fell.

More than 1,000 people in the US are killed by police in each of the last few years; that number should provoke some meaningful changes.  Doesn’t seem like it does, though

I have to say what I have seen was acceptable choke hold policies over the last two weeks were pretty bad. Some of the videos I have seen of reactions to individuals with tackles, repeated baton hits, rubber bullets taking out eyes, firing at people,on their own porch with projectiles for at worse being on their own porch after curfew, yet abandoning properties being looted bother me.  

From the FBI:

Felonious Deaths

The 48 felonious deaths occurred in 19 states and in Puerto Rico. The number of officers killed as a result of criminal acts in 2019 was 8 less than the 56 officers who were feloniously killed in 2018. The 5- and 10-year comparisons show an increase of 7 felonious deaths compared with the 2015 figure (41 officers) and a decrease of 7 deaths compared with 2010 data (55 officers).

Officer Profiles. The average age of the officers who were feloniously killed was 40 years old. The victim officers had served in law enforcement for an average of 13 years at the times of the fatal incidents. Of the 48 officers:

• 45 were male
• 3 were female
• 40 were white
• 7 were black/African American
• 1 was Asian.

Circumstances. Of the 48 officers feloniously killed:

• 15 died as a result of investigative or law enforcement activities
  • 6 were conducting traffic violation stops
  • 4 were performing investigative activities
  • 2 were drug-related matters
  • 2 were interacting with wanted persons
  • 1 was investigating suspicious person or circumstance
• 9 were involved in tactical situations
  • 3 were barricaded/hostage situations
  • 3 were serving, or attempting to serve, search warrants
  • 2 were serving, or attempting to serve, arrest warrants
  • 1 was reported in the category titled "other tactical situation”
• 5 were involved in unprovoked attacks
• 4 were responding to crimes in progress
  • 2 were robberies
  • 1 was larceny-theft
  • 1 was reported in the category titled "other crime against property”
• 3 were involved in arrest situations and were attempting to restrain/control/handcuff the offender(s) during the arrest situations
• 3 were assisting other law enforcement officers
  • 2 with vehicular pursuits
  • 1 with foot pursuit
• 3 were responding to disorders or disturbances
  • 2 were responding to disturbances (disorderly subjects, fights, etc.)
  • 1 was responding to a domestic violence call
• 3 were involved in vehicular pursuits
• 2 were ambushed (entrapment/premeditation)
• 1 was serving, or attempting to serve, a court order (eviction notice, subpoena, etc.).

Weapons. Offenders used firearms to kill 44 of the 48 victim officers. Four officers were killed with vehicles used as weapons. Of the 44 officers killed by firearms:

• 34 were slain with handguns
• 7 with rifles
• 1 with a shotgun
• 2 with firearms in which the types of firearms were unknown or not reported

Regions. Felonious deaths were reported in four U.S. regions and Puerto Rico.

• 27 officers were feloniously killed in the South
• 9 in the Midwest
• 9 in the West
• 1 in the Northeast
• 2 in Puerto Rico

Suspects. Law enforcement agencies identified 49 alleged assailants in connection with the felonious line-of-duty deaths.

• 36 of the assailants had prior criminal arrests.
• 12 of the offenders were under judicial supervision at the times of the felonious incidents

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Im sure Wolf knows this isnt healthy and all the same percations hes urged us to take are still right. But he really cant tell these people not to protest. He will get the Drew Brees treatment. Big racist bad guy. 

I agree, there's no way to say don't protest, heck he marched in Harrisburg this week.  What will be interesting to see is will there be a huge spike in 2 weeks?  Philly was the hot spot already.