21 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

That sounds nice but as Jules would say...that ish aint the truth.

if all a person is capable of are those jobs they should not be having kids.

Big business is where the economy happens. our problem is that the bottom 80% of earners pay almost nothing into the system. Its the ignored reality when comparing to socialist systems. They tax the hell out of lower earners too
 

the people taking my tax dollars are the failures and public sector workers. 

You’re saying poor people shouldn’t have kids. Thing is, they aren’t poor because they’re stupid or don’t work hard. You know how many people are waking up at 3-4 AM to start 1 of their 2 jobs just to have enough to live off? Our society is broken, and instead of trying to fix that, you’re solution is just telling poor people to deal with it, while the wage gap continues to increase every year? 

16 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

That isn’t true.   Our local police get tons of training.  The question is whether the training is appropriate. 
Scary how relevant this is fifty years later.  I was 12  

 

Last numbers from 2018 cops are required around 950 hours of training to become cops which works out to about 6 months.

And a barber is required to complete 1500 hours of training.

Not sure how that translates to months, im not so good with the math😞yeah that 60 minutes video might as well be from yesterday.

52 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Some really bad history being thrown around here. Cherry picking without context.

Of course.  I hope I am not a purveyor of such to which you are referring.  

13 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Well, too big too fail has been gutted since that time.

Inwould argue its stronger than ever. The corps know ot will come now

5 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

You’re saying poor people shouldn’t have kids. Thing is, they aren’t poor because they’re stupid or don’t work hard. You know how many people are waking up at 3-4 AM to start 1 of their 2 jobs just to have enough to live off? Our society is broken, and instead of trying to fix that, you’re solution is just telling poor people to deal with it, while the wage gap continues to increase every year? 

Our society is not broken. Far from it

that just emotional nonsense. Appeal to emotion fallacy abounds with you

what needs fixing are the failures.

33 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

That sounds nice but as Jules would say...that ish aint the truth.

if all a person is capable of are those jobs they should not be having kids.

Big business is where the economy happens. our problem is that the bottom 80% of earners pay almost nothing into the system. Its the ignored reality when comparing to socialist systems. They tax the hell out of lower earners too
 

the people taking my tax dollars are the failures and public sector workers. 

Think again.  Pensions is almost all Social Security and Heath Care is mostly Medicare.

It's those ******* old people taking all your tax dollars!

17 minutes ago, uncphillyfan said:

I hope the NFL doesn’t cut 2 preseason games. I actually love to watch the kids play

I don’t think they have a lot of choice this year. I worry about how that affects players on the fringe as to training, scheme, experience. 

33 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I suggest they adapt or get left behind

all you have are tired and disproven collectivist cliches. You ever had a real job? Doesnt sound like it...

Define real job?

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Think again.  Pensions is almost all Social Security and Heath Care is mostly Medicare.

It's those ******* old people taking all your tax dollars!

Damn old people why dont they hurry up and die, especially my father in law😉😄

Just now, Utebird said:

Define real job?

One with a livable wage.

Until the minimum wage is a livable wage, Corporations will happily let the government provide supplemental assistance to their employees. 

It's really a nice scheme.  Keep the profits and let their customers pay their employees through the tax/welfare mechanism.

34 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

I suggest they adapt or get left behind

all you have are tired and disproven collectivist cliches. You ever had a real job? Doesnt sound like it...

You honestly are coming off as the type of person who thinks they’re better than those minimum wage workers who are out at work during this pandemic because they’re essential.

 

If you’re working then you have a real job.

17 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Really, so you paying 700% a year on average to big business is great because failed trickle down economics but that 30$ a year you give to fund food stamps is a drain on society?

How do you feel about the taxes you pay towards the military budget which is far more than you pay in just about everything else. Unless you are a weapons manufacture that investment isnt really paying off unless you are suggesting that US economic growth and sustainabilty is dependent on War and blowing people up?

Nice that you categorize people as failures bevause they arent good enough at capitalism to not starve or house themselves, but then again its because theyre either lazy or stupid or both right?

Lazy and stupid people are plentiful yes

i am fine paying for military. Its a clear federal responsibility that protects the nation. Welfare is a drain on the nation. It is not the govts role to provide a standard of living and with finite resources the ROI matters

now the defense budget can certainly be trimmed in a meaningful way but it still pales in comparison to entitlements

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Think again.  Pensions is almost all Social Security and Heath Care is mostly Medicare.

It's those ******* old people taking all your tax dollars!

Damn old people.  They are socialists preying on all of us with their entitlement programs. 

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Think again.  Pensions is almost all Social Security and Heath Care is mostly Medicare.

It's those ******* old people taking all your tax dollars!

Yup where the ROI is worst. Old people are a terrible investment of resources 

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Yup where the ROI is worst. Old people are a terrible investment of resources 

Tell that to the Bucs.

3 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

 

 

If you’re working then you have a real job.

This naive drivel is whats wrong with the country

7 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Our society is not broken. Far from it

that just emotional nonsense. Appeal to emotion fallacy abounds with you

what needs fixing are the failures.

How does one suggest fixing the " failures" and who are considered the failures, is their a wage minimum to decide failure and valuable memeber of capitalism? If so when a failure ceases to be valuable to capital what should we do with said failures?

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

This naive drivel is whats wrong with the country

Does it not pay actual dollars? What do you think is a real job?

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

One with a livable wage.

Until the minimum wage is a livable wage, Corporations will happily let the government provide supplemental assistance to their employees. 

It's really a nice scheme.  Keep the profits and let their customers pay their employees through the tax/welfare mechanism.

Yup Walmart has this scheme down to a T. Ive been paying walmart employee wages as long as ive been working and its because those employees are too lazy and dumb to get a " real job"😒

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

One with a livable wage.

Until the minimum wage is a livable wage, Corporations will happily let the government provide supplemental assistance to their employees. 

It's really a nice scheme.  Keep the profits and let their customers pay their employees through the tax/welfare mechanism.

No entities, except health provider corporations and other legal entities (schedules on what is paid for care) and health insurers (Single payer) would Be happier to have Medicare for All than corporations that provide health care benefits to their employees. 

20 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

This isn't a matter of free speech.  The incoming dean was able to express her views.

The issue is that those views, in the opinion of the administrations, were inconsistent with the values they want to convey.

I'll defend your right to free speech.  Don't blame me for the consequences of what you say.

Who is they? ASU is a public university and the administrators are simply public employees. They should be neutral to political concerns. Moreover, this should have been considered before they offered the candidate a position and before the candidate accepted the position.

The dean in question made no public announcements. She is accused of inappropriate speech by former students. She has denied it and has not been afforded due process.

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Tell that to the Bucs.

I hope Bradys arm falls off

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

How does one suggest fixing the " failures" and who are considered the failures, is their a wage minimum to decide failure and valuable memeber of capitalism? If so when a failure ceases to be valuable to capital what should we do with said failures?

Capitalism makes it real easy to tell bc it demands self sufficiency

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Damn old people.  They are socialists preying on all of us with their entitlement programs. 

You mean the ones that saved our bacon in WWII?

4 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Does it not pay actual dollars? What do you think is a real job?

Crime pays a real dollars too. Silly argument

 

1 minute ago, Desertbirds said:

You mean the ones that saved our bacon in WWII?

The greatest generation? They disnt bleed the system thats the boomers

Just now, ToastJenkins said:

Crime pays a real dollars too. Silly argument

 

What is a real job?