18 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Heck no, he isn’t.  A socialist works for equal pay to each of his comrades. He’s asking for welfare.

Seriously, HE, sorry bad things come in threes. 

HE, a welfare queen?  His Ronald Reagan Fathead is weeping blood from the eyes.

Here is my question... super bowl teams usually have a few unexpected contributors that have career years. Not necessarily breakout stars, but average veterans who play well above that level, if only for a season.

The Eagles had the likes of Agholor and Robinson up their games from serviceable veteran to impact contributor level.

Who on this roster is likely to make that kind of impact? Not a pro bowler, but a guy who plays 60+% of the snaps and actually wins you football games.

I suppose Goodwin is an obvious candidate. He a veteran who has flashed some real skill. Maybe Sidney Jones takes that leap. But I feel like you need 2-4 guys to really over-perform if you are going to win it all, and the way this roster is constructed we are either old or very young with not a lot of guys in their 3rd to 8th year with the potential to have a career year before reverting to their former selves.

18 minutes ago, TEW said:

Here is my question... super bowl teams usually have a few unexpected contributors that have career years. Not necessarily breakout stars, but average veterans who play well above that level, if only for a season.

The Eagles had the likes of Agholor and Robinson up their games from serviceable veteran to impact contributor level.

Who on this roster is likely to make that kind of impact? Not a pro bowler, but a guy who plays 60+% of the snaps and actually wins you football games.

I suppose Goodwin is an obvious candidate. He a veteran who has flashed some real skill. Maybe Sidney Jones takes that leap. But I feel like you need 2-4 guys to really over-perform if you are going to win it all, and the way this roster is constructed we are either old or very young with not a lot of guys in their 3rd to 8th year with the potential to have a career year before reverting to their former selves.

I dont think it has to be a guy that even plays 60% i mean look at what Clement did in 2017 and then in the super bowl.

He made a lot of plays through out the year with limited opportunities.

Not sure whose going to step up this year. Parks or duke riley maybe???

On offense all the WRs are young or established TEs the same RBs we know what sanders and scott bring if a 3rd back steps up that would be nice.

Id say JJAW woukd be the most likely candidate on offense to up his game, hopefully he can.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah. thats on top of just replacing our fridge literally just got it this week, and then over 700 dollars for struts for my wife's traverse which had a 10 year/100,000 mile bumper to bumper extended warranty. But, you know...3 years in and less than 100k apparently struts are "mechanical" and that part of the warranty expired in september. So the warranty, of course was not as advertised.

Bunch of big things popping all at once right now. 

Ill take a 2nd stimulus check!

Sorry to hear about vehicle and the flooding.  Make sure you vote for Democrats if you want more stimulus. 

14 minutes ago, TEW said:

Here is my question... super bowl teams usually have a few unexpected contributors that have career years. Not necessarily breakout stars, but average veterans who play well above that level, if only for a season.

The Eagles had the likes of Agholor and Robinson up their games from serviceable veteran to impact contributor level.

Who on this roster is likely to make that kind of impact? Not a pro bowler, but a guy who plays 60+% of the snaps and actually wins you football games.

I suppose Goodwin is an obvious candidate. He a veteran who has flashed some real skill. Maybe Sidney Jones takes that leap. But I feel like you need 2-4 guys to really over-perform if you are going to win it all, and the way this roster is constructed we are either old or very young with not a lot of guys in their 3rd to 8th year with the potential to have a career year before reverting to their former selves.

Defensively, Jatavis Brown (flashed early in his career), Will Parks (could win the SS job) and Sidney Jones (adds toughness and lives up to potential) jump out at me. Trevor Williams is my dark horse. He was really promising just a few seasons ago before injuries derailed his career. 

On offense, DJax staying healthy for 14+ games would be a huge boost. Goodwin is a good choice. JJAW developing into a good RZ threat would make a big difference since our WR corps is so small. 

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Sorry to hear about vehicle and the flooding.  Make sure you vote for Democrats if you want more stimulus. 

I gotta vote for them so I get my student loans forgiven!

Tra approves. 

36 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Tra approves. 

Nah... Tra APPROVES!!!

1 hour ago, Desertbirds said:

Socialist!

 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Heck no, he isn’t.  A socialist works for equal pay to each of his comrades. He’s asking for welfare.

Seriously, HE, sorry bad things come in threes. 

How is getting some of your own money back either one of these things?

1 hour ago, TEW said:

Here is my question... super bowl teams usually have a few unexpected contributors that have career years. Not necessarily breakout stars, but average veterans who play well above that level, if only for a season.

The Eagles had the likes of Agholor and Robinson up their games from serviceable veteran to impact contributor level.

Who on this roster is likely to make that kind of impact? Not a pro bowler, but a guy who plays 60+% of the snaps and actually wins you football games.

I suppose Goodwin is an obvious candidate. He a veteran who has flashed some real skill. Maybe Sidney Jones takes that leap. But I feel like you need 2-4 guys to really over-perform if you are going to win it all, and the way this roster is constructed we are either old or very young with not a lot of guys in their 3rd to 8th year with the potential to have a career year before reverting to their former selves.

Barnett is the first name that popped in my head, but I think we’ve seen his peak. However, with better play around him and an offense that can score often and early we could see his sack numbers go up. 
 

NRC is another. Same with Mills. You have to think a LB has to step up. 
 

On offense, if he’s healthy, I think that guy is Alshon. 

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

I dont think it has to be a guy that even plays 60% i mean look at what Clement did in 2017 and then in the super bowl.

He made a lot of plays through out the year with limited opportunities.

Not sure whose going to step up this year. Parks or duke riley maybe???

On offense all the WRs are young or established TEs the same RBs we know what sanders and scott bring if a 3rd back steps up that would be nice.

Id say JJAW woukd be the most likely candidate on offense to up his game, hopefully he can.

You know, I almost mentioned Clement, but I felt like a rookie overproducing is sort of a separate category.

JJAW is going into his second year, and it isn’t unheard of to have a breakout sophomore campaign, so again I think I’d treat that differently (I acknowledge that third year breakouts aren’t really uncommon, but it seems like these days most players usually start to produce in year 2, and as a second round pick, we really shouldn’t be shocked if he does).

59 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Defensively, Jatavis Brown (flashed early in his career), Will Parks (could win the SS job) and Sidney Jones (adds toughness and lives up to potential) jump out at me. Trevor Williams is my dark horse. He was really promising just a few seasons ago before injuries derailed his career. 

On offense, DJax staying healthy for 14+ games would be a huge boost. Goodwin is a good choice. JJAW developing into a good RZ threat would make a big difference since our WR corps is so small. 

That’s a good one.

5 minutes ago, TEW said:

You know, I almost mentioned Clement, but I felt like a rookie overproducing is sort of a separate category.

JJAW is going into his second year, and it isn’t unheard of to have a breakout sophomore campaign, so again I think I’d treat that differently (I acknowledge that third year breakouts aren’t really uncommon, but it seems like these days most players usually start to produce in year 2, and as a second round pick, we really shouldn’t be shocked if he does).

As well as i dont think too many would be shocked if jjaw didnt produce.

WR is such a polarizing position in philly.

7 hours ago, BigEFly said:

And to be truthful he kind of pulled a Pearl Harbor on Santa Ana at San Jacinto.  Of course, one could say the same about Washington at Trenton. 

The US was at war when Washington attacked

You cant same the same for when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Tra approves. 

I really like what I hear about Barnett. Hope he can rise above his athletic limitations and take the next step; he's an easy player to root for. (As you can probably deduce, I think he got a bad rap for some of his "dirty" plays last year.)

46 minutes ago, Utebird said:

As well as i dont think too many would be shocked if jjaw didnt produce.

WR is such a polarizing position in philly.

Yeah, I’m not high on JJAW at all. Didn’t like the pick from day one. But, I’m willing to give him a chance. It would be stupid to totally disregard the possibility that he might drastically improve. 

54 minutes ago, TEW said:

You know, I almost mentioned Clement, but I felt like a rookie overproducing is sort of a separate category.

JJAW is going into his second year, and it isn’t unheard of to have a breakout sophomore campaign, so again I think I’d treat that differently (I acknowledge that third year breakouts aren’t really uncommon, but it seems like these days most players usually start to produce in year 2, and as a second round pick, we really shouldn’t be shocked if he does).

I see JJAW contributing at 45 rec for 500+ yards 

2 hours ago, TEW said:

Here is my question... super bowl teams usually have a few unexpected contributors that have career years. Not necessarily breakout stars, but average veterans who play well above that level, if only for a season.

The Eagles had the likes of Agholor and Robinson up their games from serviceable veteran to impact contributor level.

Who on this roster is likely to make that kind of impact? Not a pro bowler, but a guy who plays 60+% of the snaps and actually wins you football games.

I suppose Goodwin is an obvious candidate. He a veteran who has flashed some real skill. Maybe Sidney Jones takes that leap. But I feel like you need 2-4 guys to really over-perform if you are going to win it all, and the way this roster is constructed we are either old or very young with not a lot of guys in their 3rd to 8th year with the potential to have a career year before reverting to their former selves.

Whoever replaces Jenkins. Whoever plays the second corner.  T J Edwards. Gerry.  Sweat in the Barnett role.  Clement in his own shadow.  

53 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

The US was at war when Washington attacked

You cant same the same for when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor

Not to be picky but neither the US nor Texas truly existed at the times of Trenton and San Jacinto. Those were revolutions in their infancy in both cases. In the case of Trenton, catching sleeping Hessians and in the case of San Jacinto catching napping Mexicans. My comparison was a sneak attack.  All three have that in common.  

38 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Whoever replaces Jenkins. Whoever plays the second corner.  T J Edwards. Gerry.  Sweat in the Barnett role.  Clement in his own shadow.  

See, I’m not just looking for a guy who produces by default. Agholor actually played well during our championship season. He reverted to the mean the next two years, but for that one season he wasn’t just a guy who put up some stats because he was the third receiver, he was a guy that made big plays. What did he have — 8 TDs? A couple of them on big yardage too. He was one of the best slot receivers in the NFL that year.

Granted, it’s hard to predict who can rise above mediocrity for a season, but you need those kind of outlier seasons. They are going to make the marginal difference between being a playoff team and being a super bowl team.

I do like Sweat. I definitely think he could be one of those guys who could come from relative obscurity to make a big difference. 7 or 8 sacks and good run defense as a rotational DE would fit the mold exactly.

49 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I see JJAW contributing at 45 rec for 500+ yards 

I could see that.

The red zone and third down production is really going to tell the tale with JJAW. 500 yards with 6-8 TDs and a bunch of key 3rd down conversions is a lot different than 500 yards with 2 or 3 TDs and not moving the sticks. Same yardage, but a totally different impact.

3 hours ago, TEW said:

Here is my question... super bowl teams usually have a few unexpected contributors that have career years. Not necessarily breakout stars, but average veterans who play well above that level, if only for a season.

The Eagles had the likes of Agholor and Robinson up their games from serviceable veteran to impact contributor level.

Who on this roster is likely to make that kind of impact? Not a pro bowler, but a guy who plays 60+% of the snaps and actually wins you football games.

I suppose Goodwin is an obvious candidate. He a veteran who has flashed some real skill. Maybe Sidney Jones takes that leap. But I feel like you need 2-4 guys to really over-perform if you are going to win it all, and the way this roster is constructed we are either old or very young with not a lot of guys in their 3rd to 8th year with the potential to have a career year before reverting to their former selves.

Dont neglect rookie contributions

but i would nominate Parks as well

1 hour ago, Saltpeter said:

I really like what I hear about Barnett. Hope he can rise above his athletic limitations and take the next step; he's an easy player to root for. (As you can probably deduce, I think he got a bad rap for some of his "dirty" plays last year.)

Barnett isn't bad by any means.  I just want more out of a top 15 pick.  Like you said, he needs to take that next step.  He'll never be that dominate player or even a Clyde Simmons type of player.  Right now he is Juqua Parker.  I want him to be more than that.

17 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Dont neglect rookie contributions

but i would nominate Parks as well

Yeah, I mentioned rookies a few posts later. I kind of put them in a different category. 

25 minutes ago, TEW said:

See, I’m not just looking for a guy who produces by default. Agholor actually played well during our championship season. He reverted to the mean the next two years, but for that one season he wasn’t just a guy who put up some stats because he was the third receiver, he was a guy that made big plays. What did he have — 8 TDs? A couple of them on big yardage too. He was one of the best slot receivers in the NFL that year.

Granted, it’s hard to predict who can rise above mediocrity for a season, but you need those kind of outlier seasons. They are going to make the marginal difference between being a playoff team and being a super bowl team.

I do like Sweat. I definitely think he could be one of those guys who could come from relative obscurity to make a big difference. 7 or 8 sacks and good run defense as a rotational DE would fit the mold exactly.

Fair enough. I expressed my thoughts earlier today on S.  I figure it likely that Mills and Wallace both produce well, sort of like Robinson but rising. but Parks is a wild card there.  At second corner, assuming Slay stays healthy, I think we are going to see a rise to the occasion like we saw with Mills in 2017 and like we saw with Rasul when Darby went down.