1 minute ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

Naw, good restaurants and Gavelston and the Gulf of Mexico just down the road.

If you can stay on the beach or in the AC I guess it's ok

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I honestly think there is more than enough awareness, people who want to help change, money being donated hand over fist and much much more that any game day protest is just going to alienate half of the NFL's fanbase.  What can be gained by continuing to protest during the Anthem?  It's just going to keep the divide going longer and longer.  You have very conservative players in Brees and Watt among others agreeing that they need to help.  It's frustrating when people on the right are threatened to be "cancelled" if they don't show their support but the minute they do show support even that isn't enough.  Give an inch take a mile.  Now you have Malcolm Jenkins who can now spread his message on the national level with CNN.  Malcolm you have every outlet possible to you yet you declined the biggest which was a face-to-face with the president after the SB.  The ultimate goal is to end senseless murder of blacks by the police.  What happens if we hopefully reach that goal.  Will the focus then go to whites or Hispanics being killed by the police?  

I'm asking this looking for an honest answer.  We clearly know the issues that are out there.  I just want to know the end game here.  Just going to continue to protest?  Going to have Rodney McCloud pretty much say looting and rioting was a good start for awareness?  Do we need every controversial monument torn down?  Any reference to slavery to be erased and forgotten?  We are not a racist nation.  Yes, it exists and it's easy to shine the light on if that's all you shine it on.  We are better than that though.

One way to avoid the protest would be to acknowledge the issue at the start of games.  I mean a moment of silence and even a prayer would probably go along way to ameliorate the feeling that further action needed to be taken to address the issue.  

I really think there are several things at work here.  One is systemic racism that creates more obstacles for minorities.  I think this is always more controversial because it is less well defined.  I mean it can mean things like when people with African American names aren't interviewed at the same rates for jobs as people with European names.  There is also what caused the protest which is disparate treatment in the criminal justice system.  There is an issue with police bias that impacts people of color.  While some of this is driven by racism and bias, I think there is fundamentally an enforcement, accountability and training problem.  This enforcement and training program also impacts other unfortunate people, regardless of race, who interact with the criminal justice system.  

There are concrete policy and statutory measures that could be used to fix these problems.  Here is a good summary of some potential fixes: 

Greg is a criminal defense attorney in Durham.  He's a good follow on these issues.  He's not politically liberal.  He probably is more of a libertarian and he has run in the past for office as a Republican.  He also has a pretty graphic thread of documented police violence. 

3 hours ago, wtfcares said:

Murray was a #1 back before coming here then again in Tennessee after flopping here when he was continuously pulled out of the game every second run. Howard was a #1 back in Chicago for 2 years, and I highly suspect he will be back to that in Miami. 
 

The biggest reason Sanders got better later in the season was because he got the opportunity to actually play significant time when Howard and Clement got injured and Duce had no one else to throw in cold. Sanders got better despite of Duce not because of him. 

🤣

Sure, that's it.

It's not like rookies need time for the game to slow down and clearly Duce's fault that he kept trying to bounce everything outside early on.

I guess Scott is succeeding in spite of Duce too?

What a stupid take.

This could get interesting

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This could get interesting

WTH is OAN?

6 minutes ago, greend said:

WTH is OAN?

One America News Network. They are about the farthest right you could possibly go before hitting InfoWars

5 minutes ago, greend said:

WTH is OAN?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network  

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

One America News Network. They are about the farthest right you could possibly go before hitting InfoWars

Are they racist or something?

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

If any NFL player is going to test positive and then have diminished lung capacity,  thus missing the season it will be a Philadelphia eagle.  Count on that. 

Stop hurting my feelings. 

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network  

Got it, thanks that helps.

1 minute ago, greend said:

Are they racist or something?

I think the fairer criticism is that they push fabricated news stories with a right wing bias.  

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Are they racist or something?

Not sure, I know they promote conspiracy theories, like saying the 75 year old guy who was shoved in Buffalo was Antifa. 

IMO, not something to boycott a season over, but he's a pretty prominent college player if he was to do so. 

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think the fairer criticism is that they push fabricated news stories with a right wing bias.  

Well it looked to me like they lie. I may be confused but since when does being conservative or "right wing" mean I'm racist and that players shouldn't play for me as a coach?

32 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

One way to avoid the protest would be to acknowledge the issue at the start of games.  I mean a moment of silence and even a prayer would probably go along way to ameliorate the feeling that further action needed to be taken to address the issue.  

I really think there are several things at work here.  One is systemic racism that creates more obstacles for minorities.  I think this is always more controversial because it is less well defined.  I mean it can mean things like when people with African American names aren't interviewed at the same rates for jobs as people with European names.  There is also what caused the protest which is disparate treatment in the criminal justice system.  There is an issue with police bias that impacts people of color.  While some of this is driven by racism and bias, I think there is fundamentally an enforcement, accountability and training problem.  This enforcement and training program also impacts other unfortunate people, regardless of race, who interact with the criminal justice system.  

There are concrete policy and statutory measures that could be used to fix these problems.  Here is a good summary of some potential fixes: 

Greg is a criminal defense attorney in Durham.  He's a good follow on these issues.  He's not politically liberal.  He probably is more of a libertarian and he has run in the past for office as a Republican.  He also has a pretty graphic thread of documented police violence. 

I think you're on the right track with something else before games.  I'm also all in for keeping the teams in the locker room during the Anthem or not playing it at all.  It's all a big show now anyway. 

34 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This could get interesting

He was on the fence about entering the draft. I wonder if he might enter the supplemental draft. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

He was on the fence about entering the draft. I wonder if he might enter the supplemental draft. 

Last I heard they weren't changing the rules, so I don't think he would be eligible unless he purposely gets suspended

Please check out the feature described in the above post, and let me know which works best.

21 minutes ago, greend said:

Well it looked to me like they lie. I may be confused but since when does being conservative or "right wing" mean I'm racist and that players shouldn't play for me as a coach?

I've watched a few of their videos on Facebook and none of them come off as racist.  I've never actually gone to their site or dove in.  The videos I have watched are right leaning but IMO they look at the big picture rather than what mainstream narratives are.  I'm sure like any news source left or right they have some videos that tip the scales to the right.  No worse than what Don Lemon does IMO. 

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

I'm curious to see how leagues are going to handle things when players test positive in season, because it's going to happen. I can't imagine things won't get worse again in October/November. This is why I think we will probably see sports resume in July, august, and September, but after that I wouldn't count out another sports shutdown.

My fellow ATCs in our health system are all working with our schools on the plan to return to sports with social distancing considerations. Its nuts... 

But I know one of the universities we work with is planning on having the kids leave for thanksgiving break, and then class wont resume till January. Theres no coming back from thanksgiving and coming back, and breaking for christmas again. Just gonna leave them all home for a while, and come back once to finish the year.

Im not sure what that will mean for sports, cause that timeline does not coincide with normal sport seasons. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

My fellow ATCs in our health system are all working with our schools on the plan to return to sports with social distancing considerations. Its nuts... 

But I know one of the universities we work with is planning on having the kids leave for thanksgiving break, and then class wont resume till January. Theres no coming back from thanksgiving and coming back, and breaking for christmas again. Just gonna leave them all home for a while, and come back once to finish the year.

What do you think the chances are that we see high school football in PA this year.

5 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

What do you think the chances are that we see high school football in PA this year.

its happening. its part of our planning right now. as soon as we all finish these plans for our respective schools, they may begin their non-voluntary conditioning practices. Initially PIAA said not before July 1. But now its as soon as our plans are approved by our school board. 

Basically, everyone was waiting on PIAA to make their recommendations. The NFHS made recommendations, CDC has guidelines, and UPMC came out with their own as well. Finally after we all waited on PIAA, they said... make your own plan and you can start.

So we have put the other guidelines together from NFHS, CDC, and UPMC and have all come up with very similar plans so far. 

 

What will be interesting is when 1 player tests positive and you have to 2 week quarantine the whole team.... in a short high school season thats going to screw up a lot of teams who were scheduled to play you. I dont know how this is going to work. But, they at least will be starting it. We will see how far we get. 

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

its happening. its part of our planning right now. as soon as we all finish these plans for our respective schools, they may begin their non-voluntary conditioning practices. Initially PIAA said not before July 1. But now its as soon as our plans are approved by our school board. 

Thanks

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

I've been to Houston in the summer.

It's never a good time to be there.

I made a friend of a guy and his wife that moved from upstate New York to Houston when I was in college.   He moved in December.  A number of us were renting a big house and invited them to take our huge finished attic space. About January, he was building some furniture (he was a master finish carpenter) in backyard. He commented to me how slow we Texans moved.  I told him to think about that in July. That July after a hard hot day he came home and told me he understood what I meant.

If COVID doesn’t like heat and humidity I would think it would hate Southeast Texas. 

45 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think the fairer criticism is that they push fabricated news stories with a right wing bias.  

So theyre Fox News?