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1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

That's EXACTLY what the media wants to you think and you fell right into the trap.  Trump/Pence with no mask=bad for the country spike expected.   They don't care about anyone else's health.  Don't you think that maybe, just maybe people that close to the president may have already been tested and are OK?  Have you noticed that members of the press have started to not wear masks during press conferences?  

HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of people protesting, rioting and looting and not one peep about the virus.  They are praised for their protesting.  ENCOURAGED to protest.

Come on, this playbook is so easy to read anymore.  You know the media is chomping at the bit for the first Trump rally to say look at all these Conservatives who don't care about old people dying.  

Two things can be true simultaneously. It is bad from an epidemiological standpoint for the protestors not to wear makes. It is also bad for the VP and "leader" of the coronavirus task force not to wear a mask in a crowded room of people (who are also not wearing masks).

 

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16 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

It is not surprising to me that Americans are abandoning their masks, especially when they are presented images like the following:

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I think America makes their own choice about it honestly. I don't pattern my life after anything any politician does. 

1 minute ago, Desertbirds said:

Two things can be true simultaneously. It is bad from an epidemiological standpoint for the protestors not to wear makes. It is also bad for the VP and "leader" of the coronavirus task force not to wear a mask in a crowded room of people (who are also not wearing masks).

 

Not arguing that two things can be true simultaneously. 

The point I tried to make in my post was that this isn't just Mike Pence in front of a random group of people.  It's Mike Pence talking to his support team.  They very well could require their entire staff to be tested to come to work, especially if they are going to be in close proximity to the President and VP.  

At first glance sure, Mike Pence talking to large group of unmasked people.  But step back and think about it and that's just not the case.  A lot of office buildings are saying wear your mask when you enter but you can take off once you start working.  

4 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

Two things can be true simultaneously. It is bad from an epidemiological standpoint for the protestors not to wear makes. It is also bad for the VP and "leader" of the coronavirus task force not to wear a mask in a crowded room of people (who are also not wearing masks).

 

Not to mention that many in the media were talking about the need to wear masks during protests. Nah, never mind, this is all just a media trap...

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Not arguing that two things can be true simultaneously. 

The point I tried to make in my post was that this isn't just Mike Pence in front of a random group of people.  It's Mike Pence talking to his support team.  They very well could require their entire staff to be tested to come to work, especially if they are going to be in close proximity to the President and VP.  

At first glance sure, Mike Pence talking to large group of unmasked people.  But step back and think about it and that's just not the case.  A lot of office buildings are saying wear your mask when you enter but you can take off once you start working.  

That’s a stupid idea too if you’re going to be within a close proximity of your coworkers. 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Not arguing that two things can be true simultaneously. 

The point I tried to make in my post was that this isn't just Mike Pence in front of a random group of people.  It's Mike Pence talking to his support team.  They very well could require their entire staff to be tested to come to work, especially if they are going to be in close proximity to the President and VP.  

At first glance sure, Mike Pence talking to large group of unmasked people.  But step back and think about it and that's just not the case.  A lot of office buildings are saying wear your mask when you enter but you can take off once you start working.  

I'm a conservative but I agree with the other guys no matter what the context of the photo, they should set a better example. 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Not arguing that two things can be true simultaneously. 

The point I tried to make in my post was that this isn't just Mike Pence in front of a random group of people.  It's Mike Pence talking to his support team.  They very well could require their entire staff to be tested to come to work, especially if they are going to be in close proximity to the President and VP.  

At first glance sure, Mike Pence talking to large group of unmasked people.  But step back and think about it and that's just not the case.  A lot of office buildings are saying wear your mask when you enter but you can take off once you start working.  

Employers saying it does not make it the smart thing to do.

Are not "leaders" supposed to lead by example?

The fact that our leadership can’t even pretend to follow the CDC for staged photos is maddening. Set a Friggin example for your country. This isn’t a difficult thing to do at all. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

That’s a stupid idea too if you’re going to be within a close proximity of your coworkers. 

Did I make the rules?  It's about as stupid as half the other rules out there that make no sense.  I'm just repeating what different places are doing.  

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The fact that our leadership can’t even pretend to follow the CDC for staged photos is maddening. Set a Friggin example for your country. This isn’t a difficult thing to do at all. 

I won't argue with that.  Yes they should set a better example.

37 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

My issue with just promoting Pryor is much less about Pryor and much more about the overall depth along the OL.  Moving Pryor into the starting lineup means that your #6 OL is no longer the #6 OL.  He's now #5.  And #7 moves up to #6, #8 to #7, etc.   Its going to be a long season, even if it's abbreviated.   They will likely need OL #6 and #7 to play, possibly even #8.  And if #8 is really #9... that's dangerous.

Depth at G only becomes an issue if Opeta isn’t any good.  My suspicion is the competition at RG is wide open and that they may kick the tires on a FA.  If Prior moves to RG, then Herbig may well continue as the active C/G backup.  Curious who is the swing T.  Best of Mailata, Prince Tega and Driscoll.  I agree that Driscoll’s best position may be G but he may be serviceable as a swing T. I really think he was drafted to be a Seumalo. Best at G but can play some T.  Body wise, he fits more as the size they use a LG not RG. I think Driscoll is viewed as the LG eventually if Seumalo moves to C.  Opeta fits that body size too whereas Herbig fits the RG size as does Pryor.

A factor to consider is Juriga. They showed a fair amount of interest in him predraft. He got the most guaranteed and the largest signing bonus of the UDFAs. I think he is a project but the son of an NFL G and smart.  Sounds like the sort of guy Stout would like. Arms are shorter than I like.  Some film. 
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25 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

It is not surprising to me that Americans are abandoning their masks, especially when they are presented images like the following:

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17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

That's EXACTLY what the media wants to you think and you fell right into the trap.  Trump/Pence with no mask=bad for the country spike expected.   They don't care about anyone else's health.  Don't you think that maybe, just maybe people that close to the president may have already been tested and are OK?  Have you noticed that members of the press have started to not wear masks during press conferences?  

HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of people protesting, rioting and looting and not one peep about the virus.  They are praised for their protesting.  ENCOURAGED to protest.

Come on, this playbook is so easy to read anymore.  You know the media is chomping at the bit for the first Trump rally to say look at all these Conservatives who don't care about old people dying.  

You’re trying to make the same point Tucker Carlson was trying to make a few days ago by using liberal media bias to discredit wearing masks/the lockdown.   They are two entirely separate issues and just because you have evidence of the media being biased does not mean there is any evidence (quite the contrary, actually) that it’s ok not to wear a mask. 

7 minutes ago, greend said:

I think America makes their own choice about it honestly. I don't pattern my life after anything any politician does. 

Either do I but as leaders, one would assume the example they set is what they believe.  Being in a crowded room where no one is practicing social distancing and no one is wearing masks speaks volumes.   

39 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Frankly, I don’t think we’ll have a season. My wife and I seem to be among the few who wear masks of late. Lotta predictions of a spike in the fall. 

Not giving up my mask. Not eating in at restaurants anytime soon either. I agree we will see an increase.  I only hope that people  get smart and start self policing. 

27 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

That's EXACTLY what the media wants to you think and you fell right into the trap.  Trump/Pence with no mask=bad for the country spike expected.   They don't care about anyone else's health.  Don't you think that maybe, just maybe people that close to the president may have already been tested and are OK?  Have you noticed that members of the press have started to not wear masks during press conferences?  

HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of people protesting, rioting and looting and not one peep about the virus.  They are praised for their protesting.  ENCOURAGED to protest.

Come on, this playbook is so easy to read anymore.  You know the media is chomping at the bit for the first Trump rally to say look at all these Conservatives who don't care about old people dying.  

I saw more people wearing masks from pictures of the protest than I see in that picture.  The Tulsa rally and the convention will be a test for the NFL. I sure hope you are respecting your fellow York Countians and wearing your mask.  We have had a bit of an uptick in hospitalizations since we reopened. We are beating the curve still but throwing away the caution wouldn’t be smart. 

21 minutes ago, greend said:

I'm a conservative but I agree with the other guys no matter what the context of the photo, they should set a better example. 

I am a moderate/conservative/libertarian/liberal depending on the issue and I think this is spot on. 

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Not giving up my mask. Not eating in at restaurants anytime soon either. I agree we will see an increase.  I only hope that people  get smart and start self policing. 

Over the weekend I surprised my fiancé and we went down to the beach for one day. It’s amazing how on one side of the street just about everyone is wearing masks when going into stores, etc but on the other side, no one is wearing masks on the beach or at the bars on the beach.   Most were practicing social distancing and I felt "ok” on the beach.  
 

Later that evening we went into a lounge and no one was wearing masks.  It seemed "odd” at the time but I guess we got a false sense of security.   I hindsight, it was probably not the right thing to do but in the moment, you really don’t realize it.  If we go to the beach again, the only places I’ll feel comfortable not wearing masks would be on the beach or restaurants/bars that have outside seating with social distancing. It’s become a matter of principle, imo. 

38 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

That's EXACTLY what the media wants to you think and you fell right into the trap.  Trump/Pence with no mask=bad for the country spike expected.   They don't care about anyone else's health.  Don't you think that maybe, just maybe people that close to the president may have already been tested and are OK?  Have you noticed that members of the press have started to not wear masks during press conferences?  

HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of people protesting, rioting and looting and not one peep about the virus.  They are praised for their protesting.  ENCOURAGED to protest.

these are lies to fuel your narrative and nothing close to reality. You’ve been fooled into grievance politics over grievances that don’t exist.  you want to feel victimized by media and the grassy knoll and tin foil hat aliens that’s fine so whatever you need to but maybe try to see reality too. Encouraged to protest?  Not a peep?  See below. 
 


 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/covid-coronavirus-pennsylvania-new-jersey-protests-demonstrations-death-reopen-20200615.html%3FoutputType%3Damp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/coronavirus-protests-increase-covid-19-infections/
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/12/protest-coronavirus-march-testing/%3FoutputType%3Damp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fauci-concerned-about-george-floyd-protests-could-lead-to-coronavirus-spike-but-no-comment-on-trump-rallies-174850311.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dr-anthony-fauci-expects-spike-in-coronavirus-cases-from-protests/2326379/%3Famp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wtop.com/national/2020/06/dr-fauci-protests-are-perfect-setup-for-coronavirus-spread/amp/

 

NO COVERAGEZZZZZZZZ

Peters could step in and play RG, I mean the guy is super smart and you can't get more experienced.

And RG would actually fit his declining skills, he'd instantly be one of the most powerful guards in the NFL, wouldn't have to worry about diminished range, and is still agile enough to handle DTs.

 

As far as protests, most were wearing masks and it was outside, but they didn't exactly practice social distancing and there were a few idiots without masks. Including many of the cops watching the protests. So there are going to be increased infections, but probably less proportionately than from say churches with people without masks (see West Viriginia).

Anyone think the majority of the crowd Saturday will be wearing masks, inside for hours, with people shouting? 

3 hours ago, JSEagle said:

You're right. This team has never shown the ability to overcome injuries and achieve anything. Not last year when half of the team was out and we made the playoffs and certainly not in 2017 either. 

Season is over guys, we are looking at a top five pick next year. Any mock drafts out?

Do you think Eagles make the playoffs if the division didn't suck as a whole last year?

For awhile there it was legitimately possible for the Skins to be in the playoffs

1 hour ago, greend said:

I thought the NFL decided there would be no more kneeling during the anthem.

Lol that will be fun to see after Goodell made that speech about BLM. If he were to backtrack it'll be gold! :lol:

1 hour ago, greend said:

I thought the NFL decided there would be no more kneeling during the anthem.

Goodell did a quick 180 on that 

9 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Do you think Eagles make the playoffs if the division didn't suck as a whole last year?

For awhile there it was legitimately possible for the Skins to be in the playoffs

Lol that will be fun to see after Goodell made that speech about BLM. If he were to backtrack it'll be gold! :lol:

I'm sorry but there needs to be another form of protest. I have no issues with their message, they are not uniting America to their cause by disrespecting the National Anthem.

12 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Peters could step in and play RG, I mean the guy is super smart and you can't get more experienced.

And RG would actually fit his declining skills, he'd instantly be one of the most powerful guards in the NFL, wouldn't have to worry about diminished range, and is still agile enough to handle DTs.

 

As far as protests, most were wearing masks and it was outside, but they didn't exactly practice social distancing and there were a few idiots without masks. Including many of the cops watching the protests. So there are going to be increased infections, but probably less proportionately than from say churches with people without masks (see West Viriginia).

Anyone think the majority of the crowd Saturday will be wearing masks, inside for hours, with people shouting? 

We need to hear from JP that he would be willing to play guard first.  I'm not sure that he wants to.  I wouldn't be opposed to it but I still want to see what Pryor is capable of.

15 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Peters could step in and play RG, I mean the guy is super smart and you can't get more experienced.

And RG would actually fit his declining skills, he'd instantly be one of the most powerful guards in the NFL, wouldn't have to worry about diminished range, and is still agile enough to handle DTs.

 

As far as protests, most were wearing masks and it was outside, but they didn't exactly practice social distancing and there were a few idiots without masks. Including many of the cops watching the protests. So there are going to be increased infections, but probably less proportionately than from say churches with people without masks (see West Viriginia).

Anyone think the majority of the crowd Saturday will be wearing masks, inside for hours, with people shouting? 

Is it a contest?

7 minutes ago, greend said:

I'm sorry but there needs to be another form of protest. I have no issues with their message, they are not uniting America to their cause by disrespecting the National Anthem.

I am 100 percent ok with any form of non violent or non disruptive protesting.

22 minutes ago, greend said:

I'm sorry but there needs to be another form of protest. I have no issues with their message, they are not uniting America to their cause by disrespecting the National Anthem.

I was against protesting during games because imo, it wasn’t the place nor time to do it.  

But what’s happened over the past few weeks will roll over into just about anything we do now.  If protesting somehow helps heal the country and lessen the division, I wouldn’t be against it; as long as those who are protesting respect those that choose to stand, etc.

 What I don’t want to see are teammates or fans calling each other out if they decide to do one or the other. 

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