28 minutes ago, PrinceKelby said:

Also sounds like they realize they did JJAW a disservice by having him learn all the spots from the jump.

That was just so backwards thinking it s amazing to me that they even tried it.

I don’t think they actually did that though.  There was all kinds of chatter early in the year that JJAW was only learning X and that’s why Hollins was in there for Desean.  
 

I take it back...I have no clue what they actually did.  I just think the coaches (understandably) lie and change the narrative to protect the player.

Last fall he wasn’t playing because they wanted to bring him along slowly and he learned one position.  Now he sucked because they regret making him learn all the positions right away.  

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This is a whole lot of words for telling protesters they cant protest the way they want and to "just deal with it"

Gradualism means never.

I can’t see JP coming in to play RG. Sorry. Just can’t.

16 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Except there's nothing controversial about wearing a mask. 

Who said otherwise..?

9 minutes ago, justrelax said:

I can’t see JP coming in to play RG. Sorry. Just can’t.

Derrick Gunn confirmed as much this morning I believe.  Said if he comes back to play it will be as your starting LT.

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

The only question to be asked is if Howie should have made a 29 year old with 1 torn Achilles in his past the highest paid interior OL in the NFL.

You can replace a RG.  You can’t replace a $30m guaranteed hole in the cap.

Yes! Really sucks for a lot of reasons but this one kind of stings

1 minute ago, Green Dog said:

Who said otherwise..?

Derrick Gunn confirmed as much this morning I believe.  Said if he comes back to play it will be as your starting LT.

This is why it has always been really tough for me to like JP. He is all about himself in so many ways, but then I see how he brings young guys along and I start to cut him a break.. until he opens his mouth again.

26 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

Your should have ignored it with how you interpreted it.  I'm not saying you are any of those descriptors, I'm saying what you posted begins with a statement that the next 4 sentences clearly show is not the case.

Of course not wearing a mask is political.

It shouldnt be political, thats my point.

If Peters moves to play G, his play would be less than what he used to get.  The fact that he has not committed to any FA contract indicates the market has not given him the number he likes, or teams have not promised him the starting T job.  That could persuade him to return to the team, as a G or T.  Nevertheless, they must have a plan for a player or two ready to step in behind him. 

27 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

Who said otherwise..?

Derrick Gunn confirmed as much this morning I believe.  Said if he comes back to play it will be as your starting LT.

Shawn Andrews started at RG. I would at least consider 

peters-Dillard-Kelce-

The real test of protesting before games will be if a player protests outside of the accepted narrative and how their team mates, league and wider society reacts. Could be an interesting watch

 

6 hours ago, BigEFly said:

No addendum, no signing. Just think of me as Madison. 

Well, if you sign... then you and I make up the 100% of the agreed.   And if we both agree, then we have the 2/3 majority to pass your addendum.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

Shawn Andrews started at RG. I would at least consider 

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Are you suggesting Dillard at guard? I don't think that'll ever happen. He has the potential to be a top flight pass protecting left tackle. At guard, I think the best he could ever be is adequate. Just the wrong type for the position.

6 hours ago, justrelax said:

Frankly, I don’t think we’ll have a season. My wife and I seem to be among the few who wear masks of late. Lotta predictions of a spike in the fall. 

Please don't say that.   I need to get back in to a classroom.  This 100% digital teaching thing is wearing very thin.   And I can't imagine doing it to start the year.  Its one thing moving to it with students that you know and that know you... its another whole animal doing it from Day 1.  

 

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Back to DP's comments on Alshon today.  How much of JJAW sucking so bad do you think comes in to play with their plans with Alshon?  If JJAW showed any sign of being ready to take over would they be more prone to say let's see how he heals up?  As of now it sounds like they want Alshon to be a big part of the team.

Of course it could be total coach speak too, not burning a bridge or letting anyone know what they plan to do.

I think it's coach speak

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Refreshing to know exactly what happened. Probably because it wasn't during the season where the coaches make it private

Hopefully he heals at a good pace

5 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Are you suggesting Dillard at guard? I don't think that'll ever happen. He has the potential to be a top flight pass protecting left tackle. At guard, I think the best he could ever be is adequate. Just the wrong type for the position.

See Shawn Andrews. There are times we get too caught up in finding the "prototype.”  Prototypes can be paper tigers. Winston justice for example. There are times you put your best five on the field. I imagine Dillard is one of those five. 

32 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Gradualism means never.

Not sure I agree with you.  You and I are two of the older posters in here. We have seen some incremental change. Sometimes it is glacially slow and sometimes it backslides.  My sister and I were talking about growing up in the South.  I mentioned when I was in college (she and I lived in a house with several others). One roommate, who was a black man and my girlfriend who was as pale as her Irish roots would suggest, made a trip out to a place in East Texas. They stopped at a small store in a smaller town. Both saw the reaction to a black man with a white woman. He thought he was going to be lynched   Last time I was in that town about a year ago, I saw an interracial couple walking hand in hand with their two small children.  A change that occurred over time. I have heard the stories of my wife’s East Texas relatives of her parents and grandparents age. It was much worse back then. I have seen the end to government enforced segregation in my lifetime. The racism of our parents generation is not the level of racism of ours and is not the level of our children’s. Changing culture takes time  

I have also seen the bad results of instant change. Take the Patriot Act. Awful law.  We sacrificed personal liberty with it.  Take CERCLA (Superfund) with its retroactive strict and joint liability.  It assumes that every pollution event was similar to Love Canal (example of environmental racism, BTW, if that was a POC neighborhood rather than suburban white, there never would have been that law.). Well CERCLA results in protracted litigation because of its harshness.  As an environmentalist, I saw there is a better way. Take the internment of Japanese descendant citizens in reaction to Pearl Harbor. We never got Japanese saboteurs during WWII but we did get German ones. 

Knee jerk can be as bad as glacial incremental change. A median between the two is often the best. 

58 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Gradualism means never.

Economics says otherwise

6 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Depth at G only becomes an issue if Opeta isn’t any good.  My suspicion is the competition at RG is wide open and that they may kick the tires on a FA.  If Prior moves to RG, then Herbig may well continue as the active C/G backup.  Curious who is the swing T.  Best of Mailata, Prince Tega and Driscoll.  I agree that Driscoll’s best position may be G but he may be serviceable as a swing T. I really think he was drafted to be a Seumalo. Best at G but can play some T.  Body wise, he fits more as the size they use a LG not RG. I think Driscoll is viewed as the LG eventually if Seumalo moves to C.  Opeta fits that body size too whereas Herbig fits the RG size as does Pryor.

A factor to consider is Juriga. They showed a fair amount of interest in him predraft. He got the most guaranteed and the largest signing bonus of the UDFAs. I think he is a project but the son of an NFL G and smart.  Sounds like the sort of guy Stout would like. Arms are shorter than I like.  Some film. 
https://steelersdepot.com/2020/04/2020-nfl-draft-player-profiles-western-michigan-iol-luke-juriga/

I have faith in Stout. 

I think you got that backwards.  I think they leave Seumalo where he is and groom Driscoll for the center spot.  Driscoll is more athletic than Seumalo, and I think he's a better replacement for Kelce.

Seumalo:

Driscoll:

Kelce:

(all from mockdraftable)

56 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

The real test of protesting before games will be if a player protests outside of the accepted narrative and how their team mates, league and wider society reacts. Could be an interesting watch

This may sound cynical but I think a majority of the kneeling/protesting is a fashion statement. I give guys like Kaepernick and Jenkins credit because they're actually out there in their communities making a difference and contributing to the cause. I don't think you can say the same for some of the other guys though. It's why I don't turn the games on until the kickoff starts. It's not that I'm against the kneeling, I just find it annoying how the media treats it and quite frankly, I just don't care. 

27 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Economics says otherwise

Says nothing of the sort. It does say that the top 1% makes out and everyone else slips slowly backward and black people slip backward more rapidly than whites. There are many reasons for this but all economics does is measure it. it doesn’t "say” anything.

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This is a whole lot of words for telling protesters they cant protest the way they want and to "just deal with it"

 

1 hour ago, justrelax said:

Gradualism means never.

Meh.  There are only a few words that matter to me in terms of telling a protestor how to protest.  They are clear as day in the Constitution... Amendment 1.  

Those words are: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

 

I will defend the right of protesters to protest in whatever manner they wish... until that protest becomes 'unpeaceable' and their protest destroys life, liberty or property of those around them.   Rioting, looting, arson and murder are not acts of protest, they are actions of a mob.  Let's hope that things can calm down and peaceful protests be the order of the day.  

8 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Says nothing of the sort. It does say that the top 1% makes out and everyone else slips slowly backward and black people slip backward more rapidly than whites. There are many reasons for this but all economics does is measure it. it doesn’t "say” anything.

You are too emotionally invested to be objective obviously. thats cliched nonsense

our poor have a higher standard of living than most of the planet.

the process takes time as BigE said and we will both be long gone before things look anything like you want. If you force it too much, you invite resistance. Its basic org management stuff.

 

 

1 hour ago, justrelax said:

I can’t see JP coming in to play RG. Sorry. Just can’t.

I was just kind of posting that as a joke but I do kind of believe the team is looking for an excuse to bring Peters back. 

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

Meh.  There are only a few words that matter to me in terms of telling a protestor how to protest.  They are clear as day in the Constitution... Amendment 1.  

Those words are: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

 

I will defend the right of protesters to protest in whatever manner they wish... until that protest becomes 'unpeaceable' and their protest destroys life, liberty or property of those around them.   Rioting, looting, arson and murder are not acts of protest, they are actions of a mob.  Let's hope that things can calm down and peaceful protests be the order of the day.  

There is some irony in being mad at the protest of a flag that symbolizes the freedom to protest.  

For the corporations-are-people crowd,  PG&E just plead guilty to 84 counts of involuntary manslaughter. Is PG&E going to jail?

No.