It’s hilarious that with the season on the line, Dallas was in 12 personnel on 4th and 8 and had Austin in the game for Cooper and Cobb on the bench.

And before anyone says the Eagles play 12, there’s a difference between Ertz/Goedert and Jarwin/Witten. 

 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

The only benefit of phased and soft openings are that it’s easier to shut things down again.  
 

See the spike, shut it down.  A completely unregulated opening is a faster economic recovery and probably no more exposure for a bigger spike...but...good luck convincing the masses to hole themselves up again at that point.  We’ll have a more riots.

So the rationale is to build up that momentum more slowly so it’s easier to down shift.

Not in America. Maybe in a country with common sense, but here the opposite is true. 

I believe that is a major reason why it got so bad here in the first place. You see how everyone cares more about exercising their personal rights more than they care about the well being of others. 

This is why we could never had gone straight to a complete shut down country wide when we know we should have. You cant shut a city down before theyve gotten hit majorly. We had to be idiots and wait and watch that happen while taking little worthless half measures first. As people saw it get super bad the only then realized theyd need to listen to the strictest of orders. 

The same principle goes for re-opening. No one is going to agree to shut right back down again as soon as cases begin to spike when things are re-opened. The will say "This was expected. We are out more now." We just re-opened and we are supposed to shut back down again? Tom Wolf just wants all the small businesses to go out of business!"

Instead, they are going to need to see it get really, really bad again before ever agreeing to shut down again. 

Whoa. 

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Whoa. 

Sports science 

12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not only that, but enclosed spaces are an issue. 

If you masked me up and told me to stand in an elevator 6 feet apart from someone for 30 minutes I still wouldnt feel safe.

If I was outside and had to stand 6 feet away from someone with a mask pretty sure we wouldnt spread the disease. I wouldnt totally want to both be maskless, but I feel like youd still be pretty safe still.

Scaling that up, a restaurant is larger than an elevator, but fill it with a lot more people still might not be safe. Same number of people spaced outside- safer.

To expand a bit on the above, I can add that through the months I have gone from encountering about 100 people a day to about 500 a day during my shifts.  I cant tell you how many of them had it. Many had symptoms, some reported exposures, or previous positive tests. 

I stuck my hand right next to the face of thousands and thousands of people to get their temperature. Before we had contactless thermometers I was doing that. Even touching them. Remember youre not even supposed to touch your own face... I touched everyone's. But even with the infrared thermometer and with them in masks, I could feel their warm breath on my hand every single time. Thousands and thousands over these months. Every person that has come through the entrance of my building, or tent at the ED has breathed right on my hand. 

What has saved me so far is washing hands, and the brevity of my interaction. For the rest of my team, the masks ensured they were not breathed on since they weren't sticking their hand in peoples face.

Had I been a nurse in an enclosed space such as a hospital room with that many people Im pretty certain Id have caught it by now.

Masking, hand washing, and spacing are all vital.

As soon as space is closed between you, OR interactions become prolonged missing any one of those precautions will most likely be regrettable. As the gap shrinks while we become more comfortable, AND people refuse to mask... thats obviously not going to work out. 

 

 

 

 

 

37 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I didn't know about this. Thanx for posting it.

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not in America. Maybe in a country with common sense, but here the opposite is true. 

I believe that is a major reason why it got so bad here in the first place. You see how everyone cares more about exercising their personal rights more than they care about the well being of others. 

This is why we could never had gone straight to a complete shut down country wide when we know we should have. You cant shut a city down before theyve gotten hit majorly. We had to be idiots and wait and watch that happen while taking little worthless half measures first. As people saw it get super bad the only then realized theyd need to listen to the strictest of orders. 

The same principle goes for re-opening. No one is going to agree to shut right back down again as soon as cases begin to spike when things are re-opened. The will say "This was expected. We are out more now." We just re-opened and we are supposed to shut back down again? Tom Wolf just wants all the small businesses to go out of business!"

Instead, they are going to need to see it get really, really bad again before ever agreeing to shut down again. 

I think there is a definite opposition defiance issue in America.  We also have some really widespread belief systems that are mistrustful of government.  I think this runs from white supremacists to religious groups.  I think it has been exacerbated by some groups actively fomenting dissent and misinformation.  I mean I had a person tell me they didn't want to get a Covid test because they believed the test was fake.  It is a scheme to insert a microchip.  They further expressed to me the belief that the microchip was the mark of the beast.  This was someone who has a HS diploma and has worked for most of his life.  They are an average functioning citizen.    

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think there is a definite opposition defiance issue in America.  We also have some really widespread belief systems that are mistrustful of government.  I think this runs from white supremacists to religious groups.  I think it has been exacerbated by some groups actively fomenting dissent and misinformation.  I mean I had a person tell me they didn't want to get a Covid test because they believed the test was fake.  It is a scheme to insert a microchip.  They further expressed to me the belief that the microchip was the mark of the beast.  This was someone who has a HS diploma and has worked for most of his life.  They are an average functioning citizen.    

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think there is a definite opposition defiance issue in America.  We also have some really widespread belief systems that are mistrustful of government.  I think this runs from white supremacists to religious groups.  I think it has been exacerbated by some groups actively fomenting dissent and misinformation.  I mean I had a person tell me they didn't want to get a Covid test because they believed the test was fake.  It is a scheme to insert a microchip.  They further expressed to me the belief that the microchip was the mark of the beast.  This was someone who has a HS diploma and has worked for most of his life.  They are an average functioning citizen.    

Wow. You guys keep talking about abolishing the police, start first with that school system of yours that's spitting out this level of "average functioning citizen".

5 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Wow. You guys keep talking about abolishing the police, start first with that school system of yours that's spitting out this level of "average functioning citizen".

Last time I checked they aren't teaching kids about the mark of the beast in Public Schools.  

4 hours ago, hputenis said:

I don't get the chance to attend many games living in NC, but luckily, I was home for Christmas for the Cowboys massacre.  My friend's dad was the definition of a Negadelphian, and he gave me his season ticket and called me a moron for wasting my day by supporting this team.  We got there super early, and I remember it being a negative, dreary morning since the Eagles had almost zero chance to advance.  We were out in the parking lot listening to one of the games (I can't remember which one), but the team we needed won, and we bolted into the stadium to watch the other on TV.  The best memory was the 4 pm start time, and nobody was in their seat.  To this day, I don't know if the players ran out of the tunnel and thought, "WTF??!"  Everyone was huddled around TVs inside the stadium cheering like lunatics for the other 1 pm game we needed (I believe this was the Raiders beating the Bucs, which was highly unlikely).  But somehow it happened, we darted to our seats, and everyone poured into the stadium howling and cheering like I've never heard before.  

I witnessed 2 Cowboys fans get into fights that day with Eagle fans, and only the Cowboys fans were escorted out.  Every time I left my seat, the defense picked off Romo or scooped up a fumble.  One of my groomsmen is a huge Cowboys fan (what an arse), and for his gift I gave him a personalized flask with the date of that game along with the score engraved on the side.  

I was in my seat early as I usually was when I was a STHer. I didn’t watch the Raiders/Bucs game, but I recall when Mike and Merrill came on the air, Merrill was calling the end of that game during their pregame commentary. 

I can only give my perspective from the UK.  Sport is opening up again, the EPL has started and even my lower league team are back training and using COVID protocols to remain safe.  We had a lot of hand wringing within the media and certain elements of social media about going back too early, but clubs have been organised and pragmatic; in my clubs case, 2 "club personnel" tested positive last week and they rolled training back, before retesting and starting again. Perception vs reality has been very different.

The issue for sports at my teams level is cost of testing over any safety protocols.  It is possible to have sports teams play and have a relatively normal experience in the game.  International cricket is close to starting again and so far, with other football leagues in Europe playing - Portugal, Spain, Denmark and things going relatively smoothly, so it does show with the right preparation and care, life can progress back to a normal state.

Obviously the situations are not the same, but a recent report from Europe shows that COVID was found in faeces samples from Italy's sewers in December, so what we don't know over here is where the data really becomes useful because we are ultimately on China telling the truth - some reports say that from satellite data,  it looks like there was a medical emergency in Wuhan from October time.  I am sure I caught it at the end of January before anyone was really prepared or thought it was here. Loss of smell, light headed, weird cough, high temperature that would go away, kidney ache, and I am thankful that no one I came into contact with seemed to have caught it.

The situation will have evolved again in 2 1/2 months time, so while caution over the NFL, NBA, etc is correct, there reaches a time where we cannot remain locked up forever in fear of a second spike.  As  each week passes, we know more and more.   Also, recent protests are on the verge of proving, through all the people in close proximity, that we aren't yet seeing the spike that just a few days before it all kicked off, that some in the media were so afraid of. If we maintain our slow downward trend, then clearly the science is still WIP.

Also, worth pointing out that some countries in Europe are slightly cooking the figures - Spain are recategorising deaths, Italy figures have gaps in them, so the reality is the UK and a few other countries are only providing real data that can be trusted...

And with our PPE issues, I've not worn a mask or gloves since this all kicked off.  After watching some people with masks and gloves fuss about with them and take them off too early or fiddle with them constantly, I'd rather stay as I am and keep washing my hands and wiping surfaces down. 

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Last time I checked they aren't teaching kids about the mark of the beast in Public Schools.  

Yeah but better education would help people with their critical thinking to pick apart videos like the plandemic.

Somehow coping skills need to improve too. Part of this conspiracy theory issue its people having a hard time with the current situation.  So they construct a reality in their mind that creates an out for them. They convince themselves the virus is fake, or they don't need to wear masks and get a vaccine.

5 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

And with our PPE issues, I've not worn a mask or gloves since this all kicked off.  After watching some people with masks and gloves fuss about with them and take them off too early or fiddle with them constantly, I'd rather stay as I am and keep washing my hands and wiping surfaces down. 

I think if you wash your hands a ton and keep properly spaced  or brief interactions you'll likely fine without a mask. 

The issue is if you are interacting you won't know how many people you may have infected while feeling asymptomatic if you happen to have it.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I think if you wash your hands a ton and keep properly spaced  or brief interactions you'll likely fine without a mask. 

The issue is if you are interacting you won't know how many people you may have infected while feeling asymptomatic if you happen to have it.

I barely interact with anyone outside of the house and the elderly neighbour I shop for, we have a well rehearsed distanced routine. Our supermarkets are limited with the numbers who can go in at any one time, so I feel relatively safe living as I have for the past few months.

I've socialised more in the past few weeks, but it's hand wash ahoy and taking wipes with me when I am socialising. 

My sister on the other hand. You wouldn't know we were in lockdown judging by their actions...

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Whoa. 

Smoothies kill COVID. That's just science. 

33 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

And with our PPE issues, I've not worn a mask or gloves since this all kicked off.  After watching some people with masks and gloves fuss about with them and take them off too early or fiddle with them constantly, I'd rather stay as I am and keep washing my hands and wiping surfaces down. 

Yea I agree, but now...  not really an excuse anymore, is it?  And just because you haven't gotten infected yet while not wearing a mask (not you specifically, obviously, if you think you did get it at some point), doesn't mean it's safe (or wise) for you to continue not wearing one, at minimum for the sake of the people that you interact with.  That's really the primary point of a mask afterall - protecting others.

Just heard on the radio that Jamal Adam's wants $20 million + a year from whoever trades for him 😄😄😄😄

Good luck with that buddy.  If only he played CB.

Sigh...

A smoothie a day keeps the corona away.

47 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah but better education would help people with their critical thinking to pick apart videos like the plandemic.

Somehow coping skills need to improve too. Part of this conspiracy theory issue its people having a hard time with the current situation.  So they construct a reality in their mind that creates an out for them. They convince themselves the virus is fake, or they don't need to wear masks and get a vaccine.

It helps some people and doesn't help others.  There are probably plenty of people that went to the same schools he did that would think his beliefs are crazy.  I just think there's a certain population of America that has crazy beliefs. I'm not sure any other country has quite the same level of craziness.

3 hours ago, Green Dog said:

AMC Theatres Reverses Course, Will Require Face Masks Upon Reopening

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/amc-theatres-reverses-course-will-require-face-masks-reopening-1299415

Wonder if they'll have to issue a public apology for all the social media idiots they offended.

9 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Just heard on the radio that Jamal Adam's wants $20 million + a year from whoever trades for him 😄😄😄😄

Good luck with that buddy.  If only he played CB.

Wow.  I try my best to understand the mentality of this age group, but this entitlement and "I don't give a F about anybody but myself" mentality is disgusting.  He demands a trade (which he shouldn't have a right to do), then he actually LISTS the damn teams that he would like to play for.  I'd like to see what's going on in Joe Douglas's head.  Honestly I hope he trades him to Jacksonville or another non-contender.  Then he is asking for a totally unreasonable new contract.  

There are millions of people like this in the country right now, and they're the reason why COVID will spike again in the next few weeks.  

**That being said..........I still want him on the Eagles.  👀