3 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I was at the NFCCG against Minnesota a couple years ago and the bolded above is exactly what the feeling in the crowd was. No stress, no anxiety, no pessimism, just pure joy. It's my favorite sporting experience ever and I never saw so many people happy at the same time. It was really something. 

Not only that, but it was around that time that the Vikings fans started to leave (the guys next to us were good sports about it and wished us luck in the Super Bowl as they were exiting), so instead of it being 85% Eagles fans, it was about 99%. That made it that much more fun. It was a shared jubilation.

1 hour ago, justrelax said:

No. It’s not just the athletes, who are young and strong. It’s their families, who may be elderly or sick. It’s the fans and their families and the overburdened health care system. The word continue does not belong in any discussion of us being smart.

How are you feeling by the way? 

Arizona is going to become a serious problem, as if it wasn't a hotspot already. They just made masks mandatory in Scottsdale today at 5pm and I just drove by a local restaurant around here, peaked through the windows, and the place was jammed table to table with no one wearing a mask. I don't understand that as far as how enforceable the mask mandate is. Apparently it's a class one demeanor for refusing to wear one after given an opportunity to comply. But I don't know if certain restaurants have the authority to make it optional? 

Either way, it's going to continue to get bad out here. 

15 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Not only that, but it was around that time that the Vikings fans started to leave (the guys next to us were good sports about it and wished us luck in the Super Bowl as they were exiting), so instead of it being 85% Eagles fans, it was about 99%. That made it that much more fun. It was a shared jubilation.

Watching a group of Vikings' fans skulk away, after listening to them talk an endless amount of trash pregame was fan-Fing-tastic. The "Foles/Skol" chant was also great. God that game was the best...

50 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I was feeling good at that point, I don’t know about thinking it was over at that point.

I knew. Just knew... 

4 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

Other than BOB in Houston, I don't any other team giving up top compensation + 20mil a year.

I don't think even BOB would.  $20M sounds like a stunt by an agent.  Nobody takes it seriously. 

 

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

25 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Arizona is going to become a serious problem, as if it wasn't a hotspot already. They just made masks mandatory in Scottsdale today at 5pm and I just drove by a local restaurant around here, peaked through the windows, and the place was jammed table to table with no one wearing a mask. I don't understand that as far as how enforceable the mask mandate is. Apparently it's a class one demeanor for refusing to wear one after given an opportunity to comply. But I don't know if certain restaurants have the authority to make it optional? 

Either way, it's going to continue to get bad out here. 

2 hours ago, justrelax said:

No. It’s not just the athletes, who are young and strong. It’s their families, who may be elderly or sick. It’s the fans and their families and the overburdened health care system. The word continue does not belong in any discussion of us being smart.

Some people are so fixated on getting sports back that they cant see the big picture. I want sports back as much as the next guy but at some point reality and common sense have to win out.

1 hour ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

How are you feeling by the way? 

Arizona is going to become a serious problem, as if it wasn't a hotspot already. They just made masks mandatory in Scottsdale today at 5pm and I just drove by a local restaurant around here, peaked through the windows, and the place was jammed table to table with no one wearing a mask. I don't understand that as far as how enforceable the mask mandate is. Apparently it's a class one demeanor for refusing to wear one after given an opportunity to comply. But I don't know if certain restaurants have the authority to make it optional? 

Either way, it's going to continue to get bad out here. 

Almost states that have the mask policy have carve outs while you’re seated at the table, as do airlines while you’re actively eating/drinking. 

On 6/17/2020 at 10:14 PM, Ace Nova said:

  It's part of the checks and balances system.  It helps prevent "mob rule/group think".  The United States isn't a direct democracy, it's a Representative Republic.  The amount of electors a state has is in direct correlation with the amount of representatives they have in the House.  The "checks and balances" system is what makes/has made the U.S. system of government among the strongest in the world; among the strongest in history.  Smaller states have fewer congresspeople..they barely have a voice in the House.   The electoral college is a small part of the "checks and balances" system but it helps rural/smaller states have a voice in the executive branch as well. 

And it's not as if the electoral college gives smaller states a big advantage...it is still based off of population....so states like New York, California, Texas, Illinois. Florida, Pennsylvania, etc still have the most power when electing the president... It's not a perfect system but it has sustained the test of time as being among the best in the world. 

 

Somewhere somebody did a calculation and mathematically it was possible to win the electoral college with something like 35% of the popular vote. If that ever happened I think you would see open revolution and who could blame them. 2 senators per state gives the smaller population, rural states enough of an advantage and should stop and end there.

Too bad the inmates are running the asylum

Fully overhauling the way the president is selected would take a Constitutional amendment, which would require the votes of two-thirds of the U.S. House of Representatives, two-thirds of the Senate, and three-fourths of the states.

and wouldn’t you just know

President Trump once supported abolishing the Electoral College — he previously felt it was a "total disaster for democracy" — but since his 2016 presidential victory over Hillary Clinton, in which Clinton won the popular vote by almost 3 million votes, but Trump received 304 electoral votes, he has changed his mind.

 

 

13 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

Wow. You guys keep talking about abolishing the police, start first with that school system of yours that's spitting out this level of "average functioning citizen".

 

13 hours ago, NCiggles said:

Last time I checked they aren't teaching kids about the mark of the beast in Public Schools.  

While you can make fun of religion that teaches about the future and the "mark of the beast " and those that believe in it as being "stupid " I fully believe in it. That said the same Bible that teaches that also pretty much teaches that no one will be " fooled into getting the mark" and by that time people will know exactly what they are doing. 

If anything the last several years and the choices that Americans have had for politicians has done nothing but strengthen my faith and helped me realize just how easy the antichrist can come into power.

I'd appreciate it if you would stop acting like people who believe and have faith are stupid. 

Thanks

7 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yeah. A seventeen point lead at halftime is nice, but it's not quite there yet. Leads like that have been lost many times. It really wasn't until the Torrey Smith flea-flicker touchdown that put them up 31-7 that I felt it was pretty secure.

For whatever reason,  I had some kind of weird feeling that indeed that was our year. While I still had "jitters" and I forced my self not to be too cocky, I just had a feeling we were going to win it all that year.

44 minutes ago, greend said:

 

While you can make fun of religion that teaches about the future and the "mark of the beast " and those that believe in it as being "stupid " I fully believe in it. That said the same Bible that teaches that also pretty much teaches that no one will be " fooled into getting the mark" and by that time people will know exactly what they are doing. 

If anything the last several years and the choices that Americans have had for politicians has done nothing but strengthen my faith and helped me realize just how easy the antichrist can come into power.

I'd appreciate it if you would stop acting like people who believe and have faith are stupid. 

Thanks

You might like Mesiah on netflix. Unfortunately it's just one season and has been canceled but it was really good,  and that was the big question.  Was this guy mesiah? Or was he antichrist? Or was he a hoax trying to create social unrest around the world.

We will never find out now without season 2. But still a good show.

13 hours ago, NCiggles said:

It helps some people and doesn't help others.  There are probably plenty of people that went to the same schools he did that would think his beliefs are crazy.  I just think there's a certain population of America that has crazy beliefs. I'm not sure any other country has quite the same level of craziness.

I blame almost all of it on the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine

 

19 minutes ago, The guy in France said:

I blame almost all of it on the abolition of the Fairness Doctrine

 

If you're talking about the fairness doctrine in broadcasting the market serves that function. The left started Air America as a counter to conservative talk radio and it failed miserably. Why would you want the government to mandate what a media outlet has to broadcast?

No one is preventing liberal talk from starting again but it should have to compete in the market based on its own merit.

16 hours ago, greend said:

No worries on the snark I assumed you misunderstood. That said there will be 800 billion people running around with no masks on I can guarantee it. 

Nah... I put the limit somewhere around 400 million in the US.  Maybe 8.5 billion worldwide.

16 hours ago, greend said:

How will it be enforced? That's my question, I literally had to give one of my employees a day off w/o pay because he kept "forgetting" to put his mask on after several warnings. I'm all in favor of people wearing masks, but can you imagine the crap storm if they get arrested for not wearing it? We're now a country of a-holes that only care about "what's in it for me".

They just mandated masks in public places/business open to the public last night here in Orange County Florida.  The Orange County Mayor said he doesn’t want to use law enforcement to enforce it for individual citizens/residents so he is hoping people use their best judgment BUT he will enforce it against businesses if he gets reports that they are not following the CDC guidelines.   
 

If a business can’t keep its employees/clients 6 feet apart then they are required to wear masks.  And if an employee tests positive  they are going to temporarily shut them down. 
 

3 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

They just mandated masks in public places/business open to the public last night here in Orange County Florida.  The Orange County Mayor said he doesn’t want to use law enforcement to enforce it for individual citizens so he is hoping people use their best judgment BUT he will enforce it against businesses if he gets reports that they are not following the CDC guidelines.   
 

If a business can’t keep its employees/clients 6 feet apart then they are required to wear masks.  And if an employee tests positive  they are going to temporarily shut them down. 
 

I would expect Florida to have a higher death rate since you guys have a lot of elderly people living there. Looking at the stats it doesn't seem that way.

9 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

How are you feeling by the way? 

Arizona is going to become a serious problem, as if it wasn't a hotspot already. They just made masks mandatory in Scottsdale today at 5pm and I just drove by a local restaurant around here, peaked through the windows, and the place was jammed table to table with no one wearing a mask. I don't understand that as far as how enforceable the mask mandate is. Apparently it's a class one demeanor for refusing to wear one after given an opportunity to comply. But I don't know if certain restaurants have the authority to make it optional? 

Either way, it's going to continue to get bad out here. 

I’m on the upswing, definitely feeling better. I’m gritting my teeth at the prospect of what’s to come for the nation, however.

I live in Austin and just tested positive along with like 5 other people that were with us at a pretty spacious winery. It’s getting nuts here. It was next to impossible to find a place that wasn’t out of tests or fully booked.

38 minutes ago, justrelax said:

I’m on the upswing, definitely feeling better. I’m gritting my teeth at the prospect of what’s to come for the nation, however.

Some of these viruses that get brought over from other parts of the world are just nasty.  

I got sick twice in January back-to-back from people at work.  The first one was just a bad head cold; it was -40C here at the time and my work involved being outside 2-3 hours per day.  I was able to kick it in 3-4 days and joked with people that the bitter cold knocked it out.  Then my boss returned from vacation in Malta (between Asia and Africa) and I caught a bad virus from him -- dry cough, fever, and the worst was that I developed an ear infection.  My left ear was completely closed, and I actually needed to leave work and go to a walk-in medical clinic to get my ears flushed with hot water, the pain was so bad from the pressure increasing.  It took 4 to 5 weeks for my left ear to open back up, even using medicinal ear drops; I should actually go get my hearing tested to find out if it caused any lasting hearing loss -- I still feel a slight 'pop' occasionally.

That was in January so I doubt it was the Coronavirus that started spreading out of China, but it has changed my behavior in dealing with illness.  I simply won't go to work anymore once I feel symptoms.

14 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

I live in Austin and just tested positive along with like 5 other people that were with us at a pretty spacious winery. It’s getting nuts here. It was next to impossible to find a place that wasn’t out of tests or fully booked.

Kick its butt

My wife was off for about 2 months,  building completely closed. 

They've been re'opened about 3-4 weeks now.  Just got their first positive case. 

Will see if that spreads through the building. 

She thinks it was on 3rd shift though which is not hers. 

Well, yesterday I drove through west Tennessee, Arkansas and into East Texas. Practically no masks. Some social distancing but some morons don’t even attempt that. Such disregard for fellow men.  

We took this risk to see my father-in-law.  He lost his wife in March and this is her birthday.  I really hope the distancing and hygiene my wife and I practiced kept us from the virus for his sake. BTW, Hilton lied to me.  No sealed certified clean rooms. Maids not wearing masks. Fortunately, I brought my own cleaning supplies, pillows and sheets.  It may be overkill but this morning I will be with an 84 year old, almost 85, who isn’t in stellar health. 

I do think some herd immunity will come out of this.

3 hours ago, greend said:

 

While you can make fun of religion that teaches about the future and the "mark of the beast " and those that believe in it as being "stupid " I fully believe in it. That said the same Bible that teaches that also pretty much teaches that no one will be " fooled into getting the mark" and by that time people will know exactly what they are doing. 

If anything the last several years and the choices that Americans have had for politicians has done nothing but strengthen my faith and helped me realize just how easy the antichrist can come into power.

I'd appreciate it if you would stop acting like people who believe and have faith are stupid. 

Thanks

Ezekiel and Revelations also reference the Four Horsemen. One is plague. While these are the punishments of God, don’t you think Jesus and the disciples would have worn masks and ministered to the sick?

Please realize that as an agnostic I am not of the same belief set as you. My father was an agnostic but his parents were devout Lutherans and everything I learned from them and from him is you lend a helping hand, you treat others as you would be treated, if you have bread and another doesn’t, you share.  I remember working with a group of young men when I was in college that were studying to be ministers. One was particularly strict in his interpretations and basically condemned to hell anyone that did not accept his version of Christianity.  I rejected that.  He used to talk about accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior into your heart. Well, I suspect from my reading of the four gospels that would likely be interpreted more by actions towards others than words. 

To be honest, I could not care less about professional sports returning. This should have taught everyone how unimportant they are.

The economy, small businesses, restaurants, bars, travel....all far more important.  I don’t really care how long it takes for pro sports and mass gatherings like concerts to come back.  If we get everything else, it’s a win.  
 

Let the NBA talk about conspiracies and their own league while the MLB bickers about their millions.  It’s just not that important.

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