17 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

I do not even have a top 1 rapper.

Well I like LL Cool J in NCIS LA and Lip Sync Battle.

I thought Will Smith was really good in Men in Black.

Not sure I ever heard any of their songs.  Does that count?  

Just now, bpac55 said:

As far as fun highlights. Jason Williams all day long.  Could watch his passes all day long.  Are we still allowed to call him White Chocolate?

 

He was a fun one too. Not a lot of memorable moments in big games though. 

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Well I like LL Cool J in NCIS LA and Lip Sync Battle.

I thought Will Smith was really good in Men in Black.

Not sure I ever heard any of their songs.  Does that count?  

You’ve heard the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air theme. 

15 minutes ago, greend said:

yup

Also 2-0 vs the rams with nick foles finishing one game and winning the other. 

McVay and Shanahan being listed at #5 and #6 is just another sign of a #hottake.  

McVay is supposed to be some offensive genius, right?  That's why he makes the list.  Well, let's put that 'genius' under the microscope a bit.
2017 - leads his team to the playoffs in his first year, which is a major coup for him.  But, losing at home to the Eagles cost them their shot at HFA.  But, what type of HFA would it have been?   They lost in the playoffs AT HOME to the Falcons, scoring a paltry 13 points.   
2018 - Rams get back to the playoffs, beat the Cowboys and Saints (albeit under a WORLD of scrutiny for a blown call, but that wouldn't have assured victory for the Saints).  But, in the Super Bowl, they put up 3 points.  THREE.  The Rams defense managed to hold the Pats to just 13... and yet, this offensive genius couldn't find a way to get into the end zone even once, when merely getting there twice would have won the game for them.
2019 - Missed the playoffs.  

Shanahan another offensive genius, right?   Well, as the offensive coordinator before leaving for SF... in the Super Bowl, he mismanaged the game offensively to the point that they gave up a 28-3 lead in the 3rd quarter and lost the game.  At 28-9, they take over the ball at the NE 32 yard line... that's INSIDE FG range... and failed to come away with ANY points.  And again, in the Super Bowl with the 49ers, he managed to get to a 20-10 lead into the 4th quarter... and failed to score again.  Losing after they gave up 21 unanswered points in the 4th quarter.  For those keeping track at home... from about the mid-way point in the 3rd quarter on, the 'genuis' Mike Shanahan has failed to score any points while in charge of the offense in the Super Bowl.   Super Bowl teams, won by 'offensive' geniuses tend to score points at the most critical part of the most critical game.  That's what defines their greatness, and what defines very good but not great.  In those two Super Bowls (both losses) his teams have been outscored 46-0 in the final quarter of 2 Super Bowls.  46.... to NOTHING.  That's an embarrassment for an 'offensive genius'.

 

Carroll, Tomlin and Pederson all belong higher than them at this point.  Maybe one day they will climb that mountain and actually do enough with their offensive genius to actually win a game when it really matters the most, but you can't crown them until they have.   Vrabel and Reich belong on the list as much as those two, quite frankly.

Best highlight reel ever

Vince or Tmac

And shout out to the White Mamba 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Also 2-0 vs the rams with nick foles finishing one game and winning the other. 

I don’t see any logical argument for McVey over Doug. 

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

golfed  2 times. 1st time a New Zealand senior Amatuer Golfer took me and a buddy to a really nice course next to a Bay in Rotorua. He had won some trophy that year in some tournament. He took us over christmas break. Id never played before so he was helping me with my swing my buddy and i both finished with better scores than him, he spent most the day yelling at his ball clubs trees small woodlamd creatures the sky and blades of grass, i had a good time though beautiful day beautiful coarse and he paid for everything.My buddy was pretty good he was a mvp highshool qb and played DB at BYU i figured if i could beat some guy who had been playing his whole life and not finish far off from my buddy who was a pretty good athlete and had played before that there wasnt much to it. I like miniature golf better more fun to plays with dates rather than grumpy old men😊

Trying to break down how much of this post is a bold faced lie.........or if your "athletic friends" were the 2 worst golfers on the planet.  It's one or the other.  

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t see any logical argument for McVey over Doug. 

only one I can think of is he takes that dumb stump of a q.b. and makes him look good

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t see any logical argument for McVey over Doug. 

McVey is in LA, and the NFL (and its minions) desperately want an LA team to be successful and have a buzz.  

2 minutes ago, greend said:

only one I can think of is he takes that dumb stump of a q.b. and makes him look good

He is handicapped by that.  But, that was supposed to be working to his favor in 2017.  And then they went and gave that QB $134M over 4 years, so that's on him to a certain extent.  If he was such a genius, he could find another QB, couldn't he?  

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

You’ve heard the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air theme. 

I think I have.  Didn’t really watch that show. In the early nineties I had two very young children.  I saw a lot of Barney, Sesame Street, Arthur and then Disney and Nickelodeon. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

McVey is in LA, and the NFL (and its minions) desperately want an LA team to be successful and have a buzz.  

I don’t think any NFL writer/reporter/blogger cares about that even a little. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He is handicapped by that.  But, that was supposed to be working to his favor in 2017.  And then they went and gave that QB $134M over 4 years, so that's on him to a certain extent.  If he was such a genius, he could find another QB, couldn't he?  

Literally if it weren't for him that team would suck.

McVay was given an allstar team and did less with it than Pederson with his walking wounded. Case closed.

 

As far as rappers, I've tried but rap/hip-hop leave me cold, and don't care, don't like heavy metal or most punk either, or "machine" music.

And if you're gonna put that PC thang on me, last time I checked Blues, Jazz, Soul and Motown were all African-American music.

I'm too old to pretend to like something to appear "cool."

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

McVay was given an allstar team and did less with it than Pederson with his walking wounded. Case closed.

 

As far as rappers, I've tried but rap/hip-hop leave me cold, and don't care, don't like heavy metal or most punk either, or "machine" music.

And if you're gonna put that PC thang on me, last time I checked Blues, Jazz, Soul and Motown were all African-American music.

I'm too old to pretend to like something to appear "cool."

All this time I thought you liked Riley Cooper to appear cool. 

Not only does he come up with a crap list, he then goes with this tweet 

 

14 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t think any NFL writer/reporter/blogger cares about that even a little. 

That's why I said their 'minions'.  Are you suggesting that the NFL doesn't have its group of sheep in the media that do their bidding and put their stories out there the way that they want it angled?

14 minutes ago, greend said:

Literally if it weren't for him that team would suck.

Disagree.  They spent money on quite a few big players.  Donald, Ramsey, etc. on defense.  Offensively, they had Gurley, Kupp, and a few others at WR.  Their handicap was their QB.  He held them back, McVey got through his head (literally telling him what to do on just about any play), but with an 'average' NFL QB, even a guy like Fitzpatrick, they wouldn't 'suck'.  There's been a LOT of talent on that roster.

 

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

That's why I said their 'minions'.  Are you suggesting that the NFL doesn't have its group of sheep in the media that do their bidding and put their stories out there the way that they want it angled?

I’m sure on the NFLN and NFL.com they make their suggestions, but that guy isn’t an NFL minion. He’s just a bad list maker. 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not only does he come up with a crap list, he then goes with this tweet 

 

That's the stand by.  If you can't refute a counter and really present a meaningful argument, you resort to Santa Claus.  

Someone should tell him:  1 - that episode happened before you were born, so try to cite more recent stuff.  2 - that wasn't the real Santa Claus, it was a drunk dude that had a bad costume, and the team didn't have the foresight to find (or provide for themselves) a good one to throw out there.  3 - Santa Claus isn't a real person at all, so you can't 'boo Santa Claus'.  And the boos were directed at the organization, though the snowballs were aimed at the drunk dude.  4 - Resorting to this type of stuff doesn't make your point stronger, it just makes you look weak.  When you put an opinion like this out there, you are going to upset people with it.  Stand by it and defend it, if you can.  

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Disagree.  They spent money on quite a few big players.  Donald, Ramsey, etc. on defense.  Offensively, they had Gurley, Kupp, and a few others at WR.  Their handicap was their QB.  He held them back, McVey got through his head (literally telling him what to do on just about any play), but with an 'average' NFL QB, even a guy like Fitzpatrick, they wouldn't 'suck'.  There's been a LOT of talent on that roster.

Honestly mcvey gets way more praise then he should cause Jeff Fisher was just so incompetent and bad when it came to handling QBs that just making Goff look good seems like he’d be a genius. Frankly i think a lot of coaches would have made that team better than 4-12 in 2016 when fisher was a dumpster fire. I do think mcvey is a good coach i think he is also overrated by people. To me you aren’t as great as people make you out to be if you can only mustard 3 points in the super bowl. And i didn’t think that patriots defense was some historically good one. Wade Phillips was the only reason the rams were somewhat in that game. 

also let’s not forget he’s a NRC Correct Pi call away from being 1-2 in the playoffs and never reaching the super bowl. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I’m sure on the NFLN and NFL.com they make their suggestions, but that guy isn’t an NFL minion. He’s just a bad list maker. 

Both can be true.  He could be a bad list maker and a minion, but I think you are right about him.  But, my point remains that the NFL (and its minions) really do want to see LA be successful.  And TV networks are part of that, because they believe that a successful LA team means more eyes on the game.  And I believe this was put out by CBS in some manner or another... so, yeah, he might secretly be rooting for LA to succeed, whether or not it influenced his myopic opinion, I can't say.  But, that's one of the reasons that McVay has been pushed down our throats so much recently.  If he was in Buffalo, he'd be forgotten, sort of the way that no one remembers McDermott, or in Tennessee how Vrabel gets glossed over... or Indy, and Reich are an afterthought.