11 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Was he OK with Gronkowski doing similar things?  Or is it just the QBs cant showboat?  Regardless, it'll be interesting to see how those 2 work together.

I dont know that gronk was much of a showboat, he was more like a drunk frat boy.

Guess well see how belicheat does with Newton. I hope it all goes terribly awful and the whole franchise goes down in flames but im sure the league will make sure the pats play the bucs in the super bowl😒

4 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I still can’t see how Belichick is going to get along with a guy who shows up in a cape or whatever he’s wearing 

Cam certainly didn’t skip leg day, that’s for sure. 

17 hours ago, Utebird said:

Far as i can tell it was the Arakara, dating back as far as 1500 AD.

And as bigefly already said native americans didnt believe in land posession or ownership at least.

That's a bit mythological. I mean, who were they going to register land with? Hunter/Gatherers had territories, much like wolf packs, farmers tended to own land (even if they rotated cropland, it would be in the same area)

But I'm sure each tribe knew where they lived, and resented other tribes encroaching on their "land," killing their game, trampling their corn fields, etc.

And the fact they constantly fought over land tells you they weren't much different than Europeans.

Interesting factoid, the Lewis & Clark found the best hunting in a region between two tribes that were in conflict, the "no mans" land between them had far more game because both tribes were wary of hunting where they were vulnerable to attack.

Point is, the European invasion was not that different than all those movements of peoples that overrode the existing inhabitants, from the Eurasian tribes that displaced the original peoples of Europe in the Neolithic, the second wave of North Asians who replaced the first "American Indians," to the Danes moving into England, the Mongols, etc. If the number of Conquerers was small relative to the native population, they'd take the elite positions in society, Mongols in China and India, Normans in England, if they had large numbers, they often slaughtered most of the inhabitants (take their women) and replaced them.

 

55 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Holy crap... Watch where the ball ends up

 

Tell me where it ended up, I couldn't find it.

 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Tell me where it ended up, I couldn't find it.

Back, and to the left 

1 hour ago, UK Eagle said:

Holy crap... Watch where the ball ends up

 

Way too blurry to see anything in the first 10 seconds...  crappy twitter compression.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Back, and to the left 

Common misconception about these is to look at the distance traveled by the ball after hitting off the skull.  A bigger indication to the amount of energy imparted to the head is the change in the direction of the ball.   If it hits and only changes its direction of travel by about 10 degrees, while it looks terrible, it's a 'minor' hit.  If on the other hand, the ball changes direction by 90 degrees or more, that's a far more significant impact.  

IP, you know that was a Seinfeld ref though, right? 😄

8 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

IP, you know that was a Seinfeld ref though, right? 😄

A Seinfeld reference from JFK 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

A Seinfeld reference from JFK 

Indeed.

 

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Common misconception about these is to look at the distance traveled by the ball after hitting off the skull.  A bigger indication to the amount of energy imparted to the head is the change in the direction of the ball.   If it hits and only changes its direction of travel by about 10 degrees, while it looks terrible, it's a 'minor' hit.  If on the other hand, the ball changes direction by 90 degrees or more, that's a far more significant impact.  

In all seriousness, it goes straight up and then lands near the third base line. It clocked him pretty good 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

In all seriousness, it goes straight up and then lands near the third base line. It clocked him pretty good 

Thanks.  Straight up is bad.  That's about a 90 degree turn.

5 hours ago, dukebowden said:

Depth behind McLeod at deep/free safety is kind of a sneaky Eagles need. Wallace and Parks -- neither of whom I'm extremely familiar with --  do their best work closer to the line of scrimmage based on what I'm reading. And I would have initially thought Jalen Mills' corner background would make him well-suited to the center field role but reading his own comments, he's preparing more to step in for Jenkins as a quasi-linebacker. So, who's McCleod's backup right now? It's probably...Maddox?

Epps. Don’t sleep on him. MInnesota tried to sneak him to the PS when they picked up Sendejo.  Probably because he was green and Sendejo wasn’t.  By the end of the year, Epps was getting playing time. I think the Eagles got the better of that "trade”, Epps plus preserving a fourth round comp pick.  In the off-season the Eagles retained McLeod and cut ties with Jenkins. They brought in two, maybe three players for the Jenkins position, Mills (one year prove it contract), Parks (one year prove it contract) and Wallace. While Maddox can play FS and Parks and Wallace have done spot duty at the position, they really didn’t bring in or draft a McLeod backup.   I think they like Epps.  I do too.  

Didn’t get to see a lot of Wyoming games over the last three years and scouting DBs on TV tape is iffy anyway but Epps stood out. Decent instincts and coverage.  A bit of a hybrid S as he plays some strong and some free.  Good speed.  Okay angles (can improve there).  Good ST player. Yes, I know he bit on the flea flicker. That’s why trick plays work.  Anyone that evaluates him on that one play shouldn’t be evaluating safeties.

As I see it, Mills and Parks may be battling for one S spot.  Wallace is the likely eventual starter at that position. I think Epps is quite likely to make the team as the high safety backup.  Other than Wallace of the young-uns he is the highest draft choice. 

Hamilton is a must watch. Our founding fathers had some vocals. 

20 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Epps. Don’t sleep on him. MInnesota tried to sneak him to the PS when they picked up Sendejo.  Probably because he was green and Sendejo wasn’t.  By the end of the year, Epps was getting playing time. I think the Eagles got the better of that "trade”, Epps plus preserving a fourth round comp pick.  In the off-season the Eagles retained McLeod and cut ties with Jenkins. They brought in two, maybe three players for the Jenkins position, Mills (one year prove it contract), Parks (one year prove it contract) and Wallace. While Maddox can play FS and Parks and Wallace have done spot duty at the position, they really didn’t bring in or draft a McLeod backup.   I think they like Epps.  I do too.  

Didn’t get to see a lot of Wyoming games over the last three years and scouting DBs on TV tape is iffy anyway but Epps stood out. Decent instincts and coverage.  A bit of a hybrid S as he plays some strong and some free.  Good speed.  Okay angles (can improve there).  Good ST player. Yes, I know he bit on the flea flicker. That’s why trick plays work.  Anyone that evaluates him on that one play shouldn’t be evaluating safeties.

As I see it, Mills and Parks may be battling for one S spot.  Wallace is the likely eventual starter at that position. I think Epps is quite likely to make the team as the high safety backup.  Other than Wallace of the young-uns he is the highest draft choice. 

Is that the 4th that became Wallace?

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

That's a bit mythological. I mean, who were they going to register land with? Hunter/Gatherers had territories, much like wolf packs, farmers tended to own land (even if they rotated cropland, it would be in the same area)

But I'm sure each tribe knew where they lived, and resented other tribes encroaching on their "land," killing their game, trampling their corn fields, etc.

And the fact they constantly fought over land tells you they weren't much different than Europeans.

Interesting factoid, the Lewis & Clark found the best hunting in a region between two tribes that were in conflict, the "no mans" land between them had far more game because both tribes were wary of hunting where they were vulnerable to attack.

Point is, the European invasion was not that different than all those movements of peoples that overrode the existing inhabitants, from the Eurasian tribes that displaced the original peoples of Europe in the Neolithic, the second wave of North Asians who replaced the first "American Indians," to the Danes moving into England, the Mongols, etc. If the number of Conquerers was small relative to the native population, they'd take the elite positions in society, Mongols in China and India, Normans in England, if they had large numbers, they often slaughtered most of the inhabitants (take their women) and replaced them.

 

Much truth to this. Although there were tribes that stayed put, like the Mandans and tribes that were nomadic like the Crow and Cheyenne. Individual property ownership was a foreign concept. They were more like the Germanic tribes (including the Scandinavians) who tended to be communal. But like the European tribes, they would try to move in on better lands. 

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Is that the 4th that became Wallace?

Driscoll 

Edit: or maybe not. I think Driscoll was for Hicks comp pick. Sendejo might have been for Tate which they traded to the cowboys and other teams for multiple guys

31 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Is that the 4th that became Wallace?

Nope. 2021 fifth, Shaun Bradley, Quez Watkins and Casey Toohill.  

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Nope. 2021 fifth, Shaun Bradley, Quez Watkins and Casey Toohill.  

Not a bad haul for dumping Sendejo.  What a waste he was here.  Worse even than Patrick Chung.

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Epps. Don’t sleep on him. MInnesota tried to sneak him to the PS when they picked up Sendejo.  Probably because he was green and Sendejo wasn’t.  By the end of the year, Epps was getting playing time. I think the Eagles got the better of that "trade”, Epps plus preserving a fourth round comp pick.  In the off-season the Eagles retained McLeod and cut ties with Jenkins. They brought in two, maybe three players for the Jenkins position, Mills (one year prove it contract), Parks (one year prove it contract) and Wallace. While Maddox can play FS and Parks and Wallace have done spot duty at the position, they really didn’t bring in or draft a McLeod backup.   I think they like Epps.  I do too.  

Didn’t get to see a lot of Wyoming games over the last three years and scouting DBs on TV tape is iffy anyway but Epps stood out. Decent instincts and coverage.  A bit of a hybrid S as he plays some strong and some free.  Good speed.  Okay angles (can improve there).  Good ST player. Yes, I know he bit on the flea flicker. That’s why trick plays work.  Anyone that evaluates him on that one play shouldn’t be evaluating safeties.

As I see it, Mills and Parks may be battling for one S spot.  Wallace is the likely eventual starter at that position. I think Epps is quite likely to make the team as the high safety backup.  Other than Wallace of the young-uns he is the highest draft choice. 

Anyone who bites on a flea flicker on third and long shouldn’t be a deep safety. He stinks. 

Yeah, the only time I remember seeing Epps was when he was out of place on a play. The game-clinching play in the playoff loss comes to mind as well.

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

Yeah, the only time I remember seeing Epps was when he was out of place on a play. The game-clinching play in the playoff loss comes to mind as well.

Yup. He had no idea where to line up and then let Metcalf run right past him. He’s bad. 

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Anyone who bites on a flea flicker on third and long shouldn’t be a deep safety. He stinks. 

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Much truth to this. Although there were tribes that stayed put, like the Mandans and tribes that were nomadic like the Crow and Cheyenne. Individual property ownership was a foreign concept. They were more like the Germanic tribes (including the Scandinavians) who tended to be communal. But like the European tribes, they would try to move in on better lands. 

Can you recommend a book on Native American inter-tribal conflicts?

12 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

Yeah, the only time I remember seeing Epps was when he was out of place on a play. The game-clinching play in the playoff loss comes to mind as well.

98 snaps on D after he was picked up and you remember two.  Also 112 snaps on STs. I see Epps as another snatch by Howie that can pay off.