1 hour ago, The Holy Vagabond said:

Pick 1 TE to play 99% of the snaps

pick 1 of the now remaining 3 TEs to backup and run 2 TE sets

pick 1 of the now remaining 2 TEs only see the field on special teams as the holder and in jumbo packages

trade the last TE for a 6th rd draft pick. 

Give me Ertz, Celek and Lewis in that order.  

I couldn't actually imagine any of the other 3 as the holder.  Lewis I think was actually the backup snapper, backup holder and likely even the backup kicker when he was here.

 

I know I'll ruffle feathers for excluding Jackson, but as one of the first to fly the coop via Free Agency, it pissed me off.  So, while he might actually be the best of the bunch... looking at him just reminds me of that exodus, and I want to not remember that.

 

 

BTW... no mention of John Spagnola?  Pete Pihos?  Pete Retzlaff?

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

This. 

There's no way anyone could justify Ertz getting 99% of the snaps over Keith Jackson . Ertz would edge him out but Keith Jackson was a legitimate deep threat as a TE...which is not even heard of nowadays.  I could agree with Ertz getting something like a 70% of the snap ratio but not 99%....not vs Keith Jackson.

And I can't see anyone picking a clear side between Chad Lewis and Brent Celek...they almost mirrored each other in terms of playing style, with Celek being the slightly better blocker and Lewis being the slightly better receiver.  The edge would go to Celek, imo...but it's somewhat close.

 

 

Oh... I did. 

33 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

 Cooper had to go to counseling.  
 

Here’s a scenario....Jackson and his agent walk into the Eagles FO meeting room.  There standing you have Jeff Lurie and Howie Roseman.  They ask Jackson to sit down and start playing the film "Schindler's List".  After the film is over, they give Jackson a copy of The Diary of Anne Frank and ask him to read it and after he does, to come back and then they will discuss his future and what to do in order to alleviate the situation.

I'm making light of a very bad situation but in terms of "education", that film and book should be required viewing and reading for anyone who doesn't understand why the propaganda he posted is hurtful.

 

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

It’ll be interesting what response Laurie and Howie make about this. Lots of factors to consider 

What does this guy have to do with this?

KJack down the field was a terror 25-40 yards downfield. You weren’t catching up to him off a free jam. He didn’t have breakaway speed when he caught the ball but without it, safeties and lbs had no chance. He also broke tackles pretty well.

 

Ertz can’t be covered by one guy in the 5-20 yard range. Doesn’t matter if it’s a cb, safety, lb, whatever. Better hands than KJack. More reliable. 
 

celek and Lewis are zone busters but not with vertical speed. They find holes in zones and are reliable catching. Both are better blockers than the aforementioned (Celek is the best blocking TE I’ve ever seen). However before we start burying KJack and Ertz as poor blockers, remember KJack was from Oklahoma and they ran the wishbone. He could run block. And Ertz has come a long way as a blocker. 
 

kJack is more talented than Ertz but I trust Ertz more when the game is on the line. 
 

Celek is just a better player than Chad all-around.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

 

I know I'll ruffle feathers for excluding Jackson, but as one of the first to fly the coup via Free Agency, it pissed me off.  So, while he might actually be the best of the bunch... looking at him just reminds me of that exodus, and I want to not remember that.

 

You can thank "The guy in France" for that.  And when you do, thank him for letting one of the best DE's in NFL history go as well.

 

51 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

JJAW?  Do I really have to type out Arcega-Whiteside?

I hear ya... its just constant.   I'm on acronym overload... or "AO" if you will.

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What does this guy have to do with this?

Autocorrect doesn't like Lurie on phone

32 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Can I disagree here? Jackson was a good player, but he's not at the level of Ertz. Neither one could block. And while Jackson was more of a big play guy, Ertz was much more reliable and a far more polished receiver.

Chad Lewis was decent but not as good as Celek. I really don't think it's close. I also think Goedert is better than both of them already.

And it seems kinda criminal to me the way that Keith Krepfle has become so forgotten. He was a very good tight end in the Vermeil days. 

Ah man... I forgot Krepfle.   Maybe if his name were easier to spell.   Oh, I got it... He's just KK now.   Fixed!

Kyle Kuzma?

1 minute ago, Green Dog said:

Kyle Kuzma?

Kyle kendricks

4 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Although white people never get the benefit of the doubt,  it's important to consider uneducated does not equal racist, or anti-semetic.

I'm too dumb to see what's really bad there.  To me it looks like he is trying to highlight a part that basically says "black people are powerful." as a way to inspire his black community in these times. 

I suspect that's all Jackson intended to do. I'm not gonna hate him for making a big mistake. I suspect it's completely innocent. 

I would appreciate seeing him be made to apologize like white people always have to though. 

They should do the same they did for Riley Cooper.  If people want an apology then so be it, counsel him about it, make him realize why it was offensive and move on.

Cutting him would be a mistake.  They gave Cooper another chance.

10 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

You can thank "The guy in France" for that.  And when you do, thank him for letting one of the best DE's in NFL history go as well.

 

It wasn't just him.  I hate that guy and what he did with this team, but... The tide for NFL free agency was too strong by that point, it was going to come.  Jackson sued the league individually, as did a few others.   Reggie White was the primary plaintiff for the league-wide case.  And frankly, I don't think he had much of a choice once he hit FA to NOT go to another team.  The fact that Braman never offered him a contract just made that easy on White, he never really had a choice to come back.  Jackson suing also had to sign elsewhere.  And because he went to Miami, Miami became a villain to me as well.  Granted, I was a teenager at the time, but it hurt... it hurt a lot.  And the wounds that are left from youth leave the deepest scars. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Kyle kendricks

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Autocorrect doesn't like Lurie on phone

I know.  I just wanted to post to be a smarta** after all the acronyms being pointed at me.

8 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

Kyle Kuzma?

 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Kyle kendricks

 

2 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

I thank you all for proving my point!

3 minutes ago, Green Dog said:

Ahhh

The Eagles know DJax better than any of us so I assume they’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that this came from ignorance rather than hatred, even if it only takes 10 percent of your working brain power to see how awful that highlighted passage was. 

Cooper’s was much worse IMO because everyone knows exactly how much power and disrespect the N word has. There is no pleading ignorance. There is no misinterpreting that. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

The Eagles know DJax better than any of us so I assume they’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that this came from ignorance rather than hatred, even if it only takes 10 percent of your working brain power to see how awful that highlighted passage was. 

Cooper’s was much worse IMO because everyone knows exactly how much power and disrespect the N word has. There is no pleading ignorance. There is no misinterpreting that. 

Yup. 

If you didn't cut Cooper for what he said, you can't cut Jackson. It's that simple.

Still an Eagle.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Sounds like probation with community service. 

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

That's a very good start and classy response from the team.  

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Yup. 

If you didn't cut Cooper for what he said, you can't cut Jackson. It's that simple.

Eh, depends on if Desean apologizes IMO.  If he just doubles down then or blows it off then I have zero issue with them cutting him. If he makes a sincere apology then I agree it's kinda hard to go against that precedent.