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EMB Blog: Once AGAIN. Politics to CVON!!!!!

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20 minutes ago, RLC said:

He's still playing in the league...and Jonathan Martin isn't.

The NFL is in the winning business, not the morality business.

martin has mental issues

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4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:


What do you guys think?   I like defense.  
 

With the possible exception of a WR (depending on how guys like Hightower JJAW and Watkins look this year) and a mid-late round complimentary RB (again depending on how the UDFAs shake out this year), you'd have to imagine next years draft should be super defense heavy. 

2 minutes ago, vaeagle2 said:

martin has mental issues

So does Incognito. 

23 minutes ago, RLC said:

He's still playing in the league...and Jonathan Martin isn't.

The NFL is in the winning business, not the morality business.

Jonathan Martin is as nutty as Incognito.  He’s not in the league because he retired from a chronic back injury — since then, he threatened to shoot up a high school 

 

And on a side note, anyone who follows DJax on Twitter or Instagram knows that 90%+ of his posts are "inspirational" type posts....rarely (if ever) have I seen him post anything political or something intended to be divisive. 

 

8 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I'm Jewish so this is obviously frustrating to see, but I think this has more to do with stupidity than him actually hating Jews. Let's just be honest here: a majority of athletes are just stupid. Intellectually, I don't view DeSean as the sharpest tool in the shed. He runs fast and is explosive, but I'm not going to ask him for his opinion on foreign relations or the economy. I think social media does weird things to people's heads. People who want to come across like they are smart or enlightened are going to put up a story for all to see of some highlighted text from a book to show, "Hey, I'm reading about important issues" without really diving into the context of what it means and who said it. 

With that said, I don't think he should be cut. I think the precedent they set with Cooper already makes this easy for them. The backlash wouldn't be good. Personally, I'd like for DeSean to take initiative and learn more about Judaism. Meet with a rabbi, a teacher, other Jewish people, etc. to help educate himself. The same way that black people want white people to educate themselves on their history. 

yeah your right about djax not being smart , always been a good football player but off field stupidity has always been around him , hanging with gang members , flashing signs during the game , wasn't he even questioned about a murder that someone he knew did that rented a house from him? but most hate speech towards another race other black americans will be tolerated today , hell even those women of the squad get away with it.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So does Incognito. 

not doubting that , but i quess he was able to play with his issues.

27 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah, you can keep trying to play that card, but it expired. This is a different time. I love people getting second chances, but it only goes one way right now.

There's no way he's getting cut so you should just deal with that now

26 minutes ago, greend said:

Look even if Djax came to my house and call me a cracker arse cracker and asked me to forgive him afterwards I would. People say and do stupid things and sometime they do things in the heat of the moment. It's about forgiveness when we can people. Let's move on to the no season

I actually find other words more offense than cracker. 

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I forgot about the league. They could end up suspending him a game or something. Though with the season in doubt I don't know how that would work

55 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The Eagles know DJax better than any of us so I assume they’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that this came from ignorance rather than hatred, even if it only takes 10 percent of your working brain power to see how awful that highlighted passage was. 

Cooper’s was much worse IMO because everyone knows exactly how much power and disrespect the N word has. There is no pleading ignorance. There is no misinterpreting that. 

If I recall correctly, didn't Cooper drop the N-bomb while in a heated argument? I think there is a different level of premeditation if one has to write and then post something.

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So does Incognito. 

Incognito has mental issues but can still contribute to a team as a solid player. Martin has mental issues and sucked as a football player. The NFL is the ultimate meritocracy. If you can play, you'll play. If you suck, you won't play. Jerry Jones has done this with a ton of players, the Eagles did it with Vick, Kareem Hunt is still in the league, and the list goes on. 

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

There's no way he's getting cut so you should just deal with that now

I actually find other words more offense than cracker. 

I forgot about the league. They could end up suspending him a game or something. Though with the season in doubt I don't know how that would work

Whatever he wants to call me. 

4 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

If I recall correctly, didn't Cooper drop the N-bomb while in a heated argument? I think there is a different level of premeditation if one has to write and then post something.

Drunk at a concert

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Incognito has mental issues but can still contribute to a team as a solid player. Martin has mental issues and sucked as a football player. The NFL is the ultimate meritocracy. If you can play, you'll play. If you suck, you won't play. Jerry Jones has done this with a ton of players, the Eagles did it with Vick, Kareem Hunt is still in the league, and the list goes on. 

I think when the Ray Rice incident happened he could still play. NFL has never really been great with punishment IMO

21 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Word from the wise... 

 

Don’t put Hitler quotes on social media 

Wasn’t even a hitler quote. It says hitler. It’s been proven to be falsified as he never even said it. The ridiculousness someone would even claim hitler said it when he also murdered and imprisoned black humans 

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

There's no way he's getting cut so you should just deal with that now

I actually find other words more offense than cracker. 

I forgot about the league. They could end up suspending him a game or something. Though with the season in doubt I don't know how that would work

 

15 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

If I recall correctly, didn't Cooper drop the N-bomb while in a heated argument? I think there is a different level of premeditation if one has to write and then post something.

There is. 

But one intention was clearly out of anger and rage (although he was drunk) the other intention was meant to be "inspirational" although in reality, it was the complete opposite and was due to the fact that he really had no idea what he was posting about.

It's the equivalent of one child fighting out of anger and rage (maybe he had too much sugar)  vs a child saying/writing something bad (but the child did not know it was bad).  Both deserve to be disciplined.... but who would you give the "tougher" punishment to?

 

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I'd take Jackson over Ertz.  Put Jackson in today's NFL and a true WC offense compared to whatever the hell that was back during Buddy Ball years and he would be a superstar.  

Yup. Jackson was the complete package, fast athletic big strong after the catch could block just really good at a lot.

Where as ertz sucks at blocking is pretty poor after the catch and isnt a deep threat like jackson was. Hes pretty one dimensional though that one dimension is elite.

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I think when the Ray Rice incident happened he could still play. NFL has never really been great with punishment IMO

He probably could have still played, but he ran for 660 yards and averaged 3 YPC in his last season with Baltimore. The stink on him was pretty bad too because that was the first incident that they had on video of someone knocking their wife out cold. 

15 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

There's no way he's getting cut so you should just deal with that now

I actually find other words more offense than cracker. 

I forgot about the league. They could end up suspending him a game or something. Though with the season in doubt I don't know how that would work

Fine. As I said I don't want him gone so much as the double standard with the current climate to go away. Nothing to do with Cooper. Much different time.

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

In that case I don't expect anything to happen

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

He probably could have still played, but he ran for 660 yards and averaged 3 YPC in his last season with Baltimore. The stink on him was pretty bad too because that was the first incident that they had on video of someone knocking their wife out cold. 

Did he have those stats because he missed games from the suspension?

41 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I'm Jewish so this is obviously frustrating to see, but I think this has more to do with stupidity than him actually hating Jews. Let's just be honest here: a majority of athletes are just stupid. Intellectually, I don't view DeSean as the sharpest tool in the shed. He runs fast and is explosive, but I'm not going to ask him for his opinion on foreign relations or the economy. I think social media does weird things to people's heads. People who want to come across like they are smart or enlightened are going to put up a story for all to see of some highlighted text from a book to show, "Hey, I'm reading about important issues" without really diving into the context of what it means and who said it. 

With that said, I don't think he should be cut. I think the precedent they set with Cooper already makes this easy for them. The backlash wouldn't be good. Personally, I'd like for DeSean to take initiative and learn more about Judaism. Meet with a rabbi, a teacher, other Jewish people, etc. to help educate himself. The same way that black people want white people to educate themselves on their history. 

As a Jew I am in complete agreement with this. It still was offensive but i don’t think he understood why it would be offensive and hateful towards Jews. I think he meant to be uplifting for his cause but took an awful way about going to do it  and i don’t think the eagles want the firestorm of cutting him cause they had an awful precedent set with cooper.  who should have been released Then.  

this situation The two things that bother me more are  A. people’s responses that he didn’t say anything wrong or It isn’t antisemitic at all. All over Twitter or Facebook or Instagram people defending it. I try to explain It in a hypothetical as this would be like a white person saying to a black/Asian/Latino/other race you are exploiting and blackmailing America and expecting them not to be offended. B. The people who say Jews shouldn’t be offended or Jews make their plight in history worse than anyone’s. This would be like the equivalent of a white person saying to any other race this is what you can and can’t be offended by meanwhile they’ve never walked a day in the life of those POC. And as a jew we don’t use holocaust for sympathy. We use the holocaust mainly to teach why we can’t let this happen to anyone ever again. Not just for ourselves but for anyone cause Jews were not the only people hitler was going after and murdering and we can’t let that happen to any person again 

Frankly I was more outraged about ice cube on twitter weeks ago post antisemitic memes and propaganda. then when people told him he didn’t even care and said well it’s truth. So that’s by far worse and no one has really called him out on it. 

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Did he have those stats because he missed games from the suspension?

He played 15 games in his final season in Baltimore. 

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

There is. 

But one intention was clearly out of anger and rage (although he was drunk) the other intention was meant to be "inspirational" although in reality, it was the complete opposite and was due to the fact that he really had no idea what he was posting about.

It's the equivalent of one child fighting out of anger and rage (maybe he had too much sugar)  vs a child saying/writing something bad (but the child did not know it was bad).  Both deserve to be disciplined.... but who would you give the "tougher" punishment to?

 

Jackson did attend Berkeley - I find the ignorance defense wanting.

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Some humor for those that don't venture out of the blog

Howie clearly considering using this as leverage to lower his cap hit. 

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