Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I wouldn't be excited about a Rookie WR who didn't have a OTA's and will have a shortened camp, if at all.  If we got Cee Dee Lamb, it'd be a different story.  But Reagor is just meh to me.....I'll stick with that until I am proven wrong.  Of which I will own.  

Your first two sentences seem to be a bit contradictory.  Either the issue is the WR position and lack of OTAs, or the issue is the player at the WR position without OTAs.  

 

I think the benefit of a guy like Reagor versus Lamb is that Reagor can be used on jet sweeps and flanker screens without much need to work extensively.  There its going to be a lot of just pure athleticism.   Similarly, the go route is going to be more pure athleticism without a huge need to get work in with the offense.   Slants, outs, posts, flags, and the like will take a little more time to develop chemistry with Wentz and the rest of the receiving corps.   So, I don't have huge hopes for 2020 with Reagor, but he'll offer the speed that this team desperately lacked last season... and that speed doesn't require a lot of OTA time to be dangerous.

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I can’t imagine there being any other answer than Reagor. 

The 3 receivers im most excited to see, reagor mostly but i think hightower and watkins could surprise!

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Far too many of these athletes would be using the phrase "Do you want fries with that" if it weren't for Americas obsession with professional sports.

Possibly or maybe had they not lead an entitled life since high school or before they might actually have studied and became something.

2 hours ago, Giddyunc said:

It's impossible to know without getting inside of his head, but in my opinion it's that lack of specificity that allows him to spew anti-Semitism while claiming it's anti-Zionism

You may well be right. I confess to not having given Chomsky a thought for some many years until this discussion began. His distinction between the two seems far less clear to me now than it once did and that was recently.

41 minutes ago, austinfan said:

 

Actually, yes, that's exactly what historians do, try to understand people in the context of their times and culture.

People who do good biographies of Hitler don't go into it with the intent of painting him as the Devil Incarnate, they want to understand who he was and how he became a monster.

Understanding someone does not imply approval, it merely reflects the complexity of life, which requires a nuanced approach to both people you idolized and people you detest. One problem I had with the first volume of Caro's work on LBJ is it was obvious he had carried into the work prejudices from his younger days, trying to contrast the "Noble" Coke Stevenson (who had to be an idiot not to know his campaign people were stealing votes in East Texas) v the crude and corrupt LBJ. Later Caro found more even ground.

The worst biographies are hagiographic, example Schlesinger and Kennedy. His trilogy on the New Deal is much better.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/206629-arthur-schlesinger-jr/

"His thought had stopped, he admitted in old age, half a century before — around 1946, the year when, at 29, he had won a Pulitzer for his book on Andrew Jackson and had been made a professor of history at Harvard. He had no particular need to revise his thinking after that, because the shape of American history was now clear to him. It moved in cycles. In some ages — the 1880s, the 1920s, the 1950s, the 1980s — men's motivations were nothing but their own comfort and profit. But after sating themselves on selfishness and letting plutocrats run things for a while, Americans would recover their true virtue and passion, and work for the good of society and their country."

 

From a historical point of view, I agree.  
 

Unfortunately, because of the current political climate, stating something along the lines of, "David Duke could be a victim of his upbringing/environment” would certainly bring upon backlash...especially if the statement was made over social media.   

36 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

that's the scariest part to me. 

Its terrifying. So many more people are going to get sick when schools are forced to reopen. 

15 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Empathy includes trying to understand not just jewish communities pain and/or outrage but also attempting to understand desean and his view.

Let me ask you a question. Richard Spencer is a white supremacist. If the conversation was about him, and not Farrahkan, would you suggest that we dive into the problems with the black community in order to understand where Spencer is coming from? Would we explore the ways in which the black community brought the hatred upon themselves? 

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Contradictory.....Ok....but you all know my stance on the two players by now.  Lamb was the guy for me.  Reagor is A guy.  Sure, he can run fast in a straight line.  That's great.  So could Agholor and Pinkston.  Not as fast, but fast none the less.  If that were the case, we should have signed Usain Bolt 10 years ago.  

Sure.  So, what you are saying is, its not about the position, its about the player.

2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

You may well be right. I confess to not having given Chomsky a thought for some many years until this discussion began. His distinction between the two seems far less clear to me now than it once did and that was recently.

And honestly, he very well might have some valid points. I wouldn't be the one to provide insight in regards to that. It's pretty clear I have a profound bias against him, though I'd argue it's a righteous bias. 

11 minutes ago, greend said:

Possibly or maybe had they not lead an entitled life since high school or before they might actually have studied and became something.

you don't have to be entitled to study and better yourself , it's a choice that anyone can have.

6 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Its terrifying. So many more people are going to get sick when schools are forced to reopen. 

Hong Kong is closing down schools again.  

 

1 minute ago, vaeagle2 said:

you don't have to be entitled to study and better yourself , it's a choice that anyone can have.

I said if they weren't entitled

7 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I guess my question would be why that matters. 

I guess it doesnt. 

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Apparently, this country can't handle more than one thing at a time.   

2 hours ago, justrelax said:

I would suggest that the racism directed by blacks against whites was, like EF Hutton’s reputation, fully earned.

Glad you feel that way....🤔

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Don't even try to out me...me.... brah.  You know most rookie WR's struggle.  Especially ones without much training.  I just think Lamb is more of a finished product than Reagor.  I would be much more inclined to pick Wallace as the rookie to look out for than Reagor.  But I think the draft as a whole, was a big swing and miss, especially in the first 3 rounds.  So it's hard to pick anyone.  

And I don't think the question has to be looked at through the lens of 2020 only.   There may not even be a season in 2020.   

4 minutes ago, greend said:

I said if they weren't entitled

yeah i know , hence you don't need to be to want to study and better yourself. correct?

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Wow, just, wow  So elegantly put. This is exactly where he is going to lose most people on any progress he’s helped bring along.

16 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Absolutely asinine and shows the true colors of progressives. It isn't about the kids being killed in Chicago and other urban cities each night. It isn't about the 8-year-old girl killed in Atlanta. It isn't about anti-Semitism. People like Terry Crews have to sit down and shut up. This is insane and completely pulls us apart. I don't agree with a ton of political things Long says, but he nailed it.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I assumed we were talking about 2020.  Which I don't think is going to happen anyway.  So who gives a F....right?

right.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Apparently, this country can't handle more than one thing at a time.   

I was going to say the same thing. That feels like the mindset of a three year old.

And yet, Jenkins will still be promoted as an authority figure regarding "justice" issues. 

Just now, Giddyunc said:

And yet, Jenkins will still be promoted as an authority figure regarding "justice" issues. 

He’s a flat out joke to me now. Total hypocrite. 

3 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

What a doooooosh 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/clutchpoints.com/lakers-news-rajon-rondo-posts-photo-bashing-hotel-room-in-orlando-bubble/amp/

I have no sympathy for these guys lol yea it might not be what he's used to but overall a pretty decent room