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14 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Marinaded skirt steaks, after trimming the surface fat, most of yesterday.  Grilled.  On sale at Giant this week. Will get more for the freezer and also some of the flank they have on sale.  Made Mexican rice in the Instant pot. Like the recipe but will cut the oil for browning the rice and onions and the rice water by about a quarter cup next time. Used canned retried because I was too lazy. Grilled some Anaheim’s, and sautéed in the instant pot some onion, bell pepper and tomato. All from the garden except the onions. The Anaheims were awesome. Some fresh Cilantro and jalapeño slices from the garden.   Leftovers tonight.  Wish the poblanos were big enough. 
 
IP, how big is you garden?  I am channeling my mom and thinking of expanding. No chard, kale or much zucchini for me but maybe some acorn, lettuce, asparagus, beans, peas and beets and would like to try some onions.  As cheap as fresh corn is here and the yield, i will leave that to the farmers. 

The 'primary' garden is only two beds - 4 feet by 16 feet each.   The key for me is 'succession' planting.   I also have stuck some beets and chard into my wife's flower beds.  They have such beautiful foliage.  And I put in another smaller bed next to the house that has watermelon (trellised), beets and carrots under the trellis, and a trio of Corno di Toro.  That bed is roughly 4 feet wide and about 8 feet long.   

 

If you were wondering... yes, I overcrowd them!  lol   

 

BTW... I don't think onions are a good choice for a small backyard garden.  Similar to corn.  Its so much space and time required for onions and you need to dry them after you harvest them.  And farm grown onions (at least as far as I've ever known) taste as good as the ones from the garden.   Green onions and chives, on the other hand, are a great investment.   Chives and green onions are small plants, can be harvested at any time, and they are relatively expensive to buy, and they don't store well once harvested.   So, those are what I grow.   Tried leeks for the first time this year.   We'll see what they do.   Word of warning on chive... they walk and they spread seed (in addition to reseeding)... so I'd recommend keeping them in a container of some kind, if possible.   They are essentially a perennial, and they flower early in the spring in the second year, and draw in some pollinators early, a nice benefit.

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It comes down to Washington Deadskins or Washington Foreskins.

34 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The 'primary' garden is only two beds - 4 feet by 16 feet each.   The key for me is 'succession' planting.   I also have stuck some beets and chard into my wife's flower beds.  They have such beautiful foliage.  And I put in another smaller bed next to the house that has watermelon (trellised), beets and carrots under the trellis, and a trio of Corno di Toro.  That bed is roughly 4 feet wide and about 8 feet long.   

 

If you were wondering... yes, I overcrowd them!  lol   

 

BTW... I don't think onions are a good choice for a small backyard garden.  Similar to corn.  Its so much space and time required for onions and you need to dry them after you harvest them.  And farm grown onions (at least as far as I've ever known) taste as good as the ones from the garden.   Green onions and chives, on the other hand, are a great investment.   Chives and green onions are small plants, can be harvested at any time, and they are relatively expensive to buy, and they don't store well once harvested.   So, those are what I grow.   Tried leeks for the first time this year.   We'll see what they do.   Word of warning on chive... they walk and they spread seed (in addition to reseeding)... so I'd recommend keeping them in a container of some kind, if possible.   They are essentially a perennial, and they flower early in the spring in the second year, and draw in some pollinators early, a nice benefit.

We had a similar problem with mint. We planted some in one of our raised beds to keep bugs away and it finally took it over. Fortunately there is a steep hill between our yard and the road so we're transplanting the mint to that hill. We have 3 raised garden beds one has asparagus and we plant our other veggies in the other 2.  The tomatoes go in an old horse trough and are finally  starting to produce.

I'm getting too damn old to maintain a garden on the ground.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

The Cobra had a gun too.  
 

 

Now you’re old if you know who that is.  

F___. I’m old.

2 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

We had a similar problem with mint. We planted some in one of our raised beds to keep bugs away and it finally took it over. Fortunately there is a steep hill between our yard and the road so we're transplanting the mint to that hill. We have 3 raised garden beds one has asparagus and we plant our other veggies in the other 2.  The tomatoes go in an old horse trough and are finally  starting to produce.

I'm getting too damn old to maintain a garden on the ground.

Mint is worse than chives.  I did a similar thing.   I thought I got it all a few years ago.  But... I found some this summer.. 50 feet from where I had first placed it!

 

How long before the Braves Indians and blackhawks are racist?

3 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

How long before the Braves Indians and blackhawks are racist?

The Indians already desired to move toward a name change as well.

They should just go all in and become the Washington Kaepernicks 

11 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

How long before the Braves Indians and blackhawks are racist?

The Chicago Blackhawks have just reaffirmed they will not be changing their franchise name nor emblem.  The team is named after a gun battalion division from WWI — as well as Black Hawk of Illinois, who was an important historical figure 

They will come for them next now that this is done, these people need a cause in 24-48 hours.

Regarding the R-Word name change from Extreme skins:

On 7/9/2020 at 6:05 PM, Malapropismic Depository said:

The reality is, for all intents and purposes, our Lombardis, and all our rich history is gone.

The media will never cover those accomplishments again, won't use it in a documentary, or mention it, or anything like that.

There may be data on us, but our history will be erased from the future.

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Yep, I could see my grandson asking me if the Redwolves have ever won a SB. In a few years, people may start calling as empty trophy room like we used to be able to do to the Eagles

This does put a smile on my face, after years of these idiots screaming empty trophy case at us, this is gonna be fun.

 

27 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Regarding the R-Word name change from Extreme skins:

This does put a smile on my face, after years of these idiots screaming empty trophy case at us, this is gonna be fun.

Well, those people were idiots, because the Eagles' trophy case was never empty.  No Lombardi trophy, but that doesn't negate 3 championships before that.   

 

As for the 'rich history', I'd remind them that that franchise was the LAST one to integrate in the NFL, and it wasn't until they were pretty much forced to trade for Bobby Mitchell that they did.  Then George Preston Marshall forced him to sing Dixie, and made a Pro Bowl halfback change position to be a Receiver.  Let's be sure to preserve that rich history.  

23 hours ago, justrelax said:

So, give me the quotes by those leaders, ideally with their names. I have a hard time identifying these leaders, as the movement seems broad and multi-faceted.

Many years ago I heard Malcolm X speak at Hunter College. After he spoke he took questions and a young white woman asked what she could do to help and he said, "Nothing.”

Here is an article written by Chanelle Helm. These are her actual words. She is the co-founder of the Louisville Black Lives Matter. 

https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/

Here is a link to the Seattle Black Lives Matter's own website. You'll see that they demand marches be organized a certain way, with white people positioned in the back.

https://blacklivesseattle.org/statewide-silent-march-and-general-strike-on-friday-june-12th/?fbclid=IwAR0r0AEHDSNEHn4eqVquInQ6g2RCzjM_qvPO810pIrZpTGg7T7_ttLnw9RI

Like the previous link, here are BLM organizers ordering white protesters and white journalists to the rear of the protest

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3710701/White-people-march-Black-Lives-Matter-protest-leader-calls-racial-segregation-demonstration-outside-DNC-Philadelphia.html

Here is an article written by Ashleigh Shalkenford. She's another "white people go away" type.

https://wearyourvoicemag.com/white-people-blacklivesmatter-protests/

Here is an article about Yusra Khogali, the founder of Toronto Black Lives Matter. She went of a Twitter rant about how white people are inferior, have genetic defects, and could be eliminated from existence by black people. She has deleted the tweet, but this is an article in reference to it.

https://newsthud.com/black-lives-matter-leader-we-could-wipe-out-white-folks-theyre-genetic-defects/

Hank Newsome is the NYC BLM founder. He firmly rejects MLK's idea of a colorblind society. His entire ideology is based on separation. I believe it's this video (but if it's not let me know and I'll try to find it) where he proudly declares that this movement is not like MLK. He's also given interviews stating the BLM is following in the footsteps of the Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam, both recognized hate groups that advocate for segregation.

And then there are other instances that aren't officially tied to BLM. There's Harvard having a separate graduation for black students. There's Evergreen College with their Day of Absence where they demand that all white people leave the school grounds for a day. There's multiple instances of BLM throwing parties (both in Philly and NYC) where white people are explicitly excluded. 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, segregation, regardless of who's advocating for it, is always wrong. 

25 minutes ago, Giddyunc said:

Here is an article written by Chanelle Helm. These are her actual words. She is the co-founder of the Louisville Black Lives Matter. 

https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/

Here is a link to the Seattle Black Lives Matter's own website. You'll see that they demand marches be organized a certain way, with white people positioned in the back.

https://blacklivesseattle.org/statewide-silent-march-and-general-strike-on-friday-june-12th/?fbclid=IwAR0r0AEHDSNEHn4eqVquInQ6g2RCzjM_qvPO810pIrZpTGg7T7_ttLnw9RI

Like the previous link, here are BLM organizers ordering white protesters and white journalists to the rear of the protest

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3710701/White-people-march-Black-Lives-Matter-protest-leader-calls-racial-segregation-demonstration-outside-DNC-Philadelphia.html

Here is an article written by Ashleigh Shalkenford. She's another "white people go away" type.

https://wearyourvoicemag.com/white-people-blacklivesmatter-protests/

Here is an article about Yusra Khogali, the founder of Toronto Black Lives Matter. She went of a Twitter rant about how white people are inferior, have genetic defects, and could be eliminated from existence by black people. She has deleted the tweet, but this is an article in reference to it.

https://newsthud.com/black-lives-matter-leader-we-could-wipe-out-white-folks-theyre-genetic-defects/

Hank Newsome is the NYC BLM founder. He firmly rejects MLK's idea of a colorblind society. His entire ideology is based on separation. I believe it's this video (but if it's not let me know and I'll try to find it) where he proudly declares that this movement is not like MLK. He's also given interviews stating the BLM is following in the footsteps of the Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam, both recognized hate groups that advocate for segregation.

And then there are other instances that aren't officially tied to BLM. There's Harvard having a separate graduation for black students. There's Evergreen College with their Day of Absence where they demand that all white people leave the school grounds for a day. There's multiple instances of BLM throwing parties (both in Philly and NYC) where white people are explicitly excluded. 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, segregation, regardless of who's advocating for it, is always wrong. 

Thank you. 

Don't bother trying to sway emotional people with facts.. It's pointless

23 minutes ago, Giddyunc said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again, segregation, regardless of who's advocating for it, is always wrong. 

No, it's not ALWAYS wrong, depends on the context.

When you're a minority, there are times you want your own 'space' where you don't have to kowtow to the majority

This is why college campuses have various organizations that cater to different religions, etc.

Now this can be taken to extremes, and I'm not much into PC thinking, but there's a balance, when you're white, you take for granted that you're the majority in an integrated situation and will need no protection.

As far as BLM, none of those names are in this list:

https://blacklivesmatter.com/our-co-founders/

Now they're a bit radical, but I don't see any segregation language, just a radical black feminist agenda, nothing "terrorist" here.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

Of course, a basically informal group (they lack the resources of say the groups financed by the Koch Brothers and their ilk), they're gonna attract their share of flakes, and they have limited authority or resources to police and discipline chapters.

Channelle Helms's comments sound like a wish list, not an agenda. White people consumed with guilt can do the following . . .

Don't think it's odd that a BLM march would want black people in front, I mean think about it . . .

Who is Ashleigh Shalkenford and why would anyone care? Anyone with a word processor can self-appoint themselves as a "leader" these days.

Yusra Khogali  just shows what happens when you throw a party and people gate crash.

All in all, they sound about as twisted as your basic rural Republican congressman (meet Stephen King from Iowa, for example).

Seems you're trying a little to hard to find much to be offended by, I mean, BLM isn't your mainstream group, but they're basically your harmless left wing idealists who like to shout and throw a lot of BS around, not some crazed radical group preparing to initiate a civil war against whitey (now the Boogaloos, that's another story, of course, the only organization they have is internet fantasies).

On the subject, I found this interesting by Marcellus Wiley on BLM beginning at about 0:57

 

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

No, it's not ALWAYS wrong, depends on the context.

When you're a minority, there are times you want your own 'space' where you don't have to kowtow to the majority

This is why college campuses have various organizations that cater to different religions, etc.

Now this can be taken to extremes, and I'm not much into PC thinking, but there's a balance, when you're white, you take for granted that you're the majority in an integrated situation and will need no protection.

As far as BLM, none of those names are in this list:

https://blacklivesmatter.com/our-co-founders/

Now they're a bit radical, but I don't see any segregation language, just a radical black feminist agenda, nothing "terrorist" here.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

Of course, a basically informal group (they lack the resources of say the groups financed by the Koch Brothers and their ilk), they're gonna attract their share of flakes, and they have limited authority or resources to police and discipline chapters.

Channelle Helms's comments sound like a wish list, not an agenda. White people consumed with guilt can do the following . . .

Don't think it's odd that a BLM march would want black people in front, I mean think about it . . .

Who is Ashleigh Shalkenford and why would anyone care? Anyone with a word processor can self-appoint themselves as a "leader" these days.

Yusra Khogali  just shows what happens when you throw a party and people gate crash.

All in all, they sound about as twisted as your basic rural Republican congressman (meet Stephen King from Iowa, for example).

Seems you're trying a little to hard to find much to be offended by, I mean, BLM isn't your mainstream group, but they're basically your harmless left wing idealists who like to shout and throw a lot of BS around, not some crazed radical group preparing to initiate a civil war against whitey (now the Boogaloos, that's another story, of course, the only organization they have is internet fantasies).

Well, I, as well as Martin Luther King, disagree with you

 

On 7/10/2020 at 4:41 PM, BigEFly said:

Burning the flag is Constitutionally protect free speech as the Courts have correctly ruled. Unpopular speech is protected. We should always fight to protect unpopular speech lest someday that unpopular speech be our own. 

Burning the flag is protected free speech, as it should be. We should fight vigorously to defend the right to engage in that act. That doesn't mean, however, that it should be celebrated. 

Take hate speech...we, for the most part, collectively reject when it's used. However, we should vigorously fight to defend it. Flag burning is defended, but not collectively rejected. Why? In my opinion, there's a sizeable part of the American society that hates this country (side note: they tend to cluster in one of the two main political parties).

3 hours ago, Khani1 said:

It comes down to Washington Deadskins or Washington Foreskins.

The Washington Daniel Snyders is my guess

I doubt there's a sizeable part of American society that hates this country.

Now if you want media attention, and you're a "nobody", the best way to do so is to spout something dramatic for the cameras. And in a country of 330 million, if I look, I can find all kinds of crazies saying all kinds of crazy things. Which is what cable news does, quiet moderate discussion makes for bad TV drama. So you can find people screaming how illegal immigrants gonna rape our women (when they're not picking watermelons), that Hillary Clinton runs a pedophile ring out of the non-existent basement of a Georgetown pizzeria and so on. Part of racial equality is that black idiots can now get the same 15 minutes of fame as white idiots.

But I don't take anything on cable news seriously, go find some legitimate polls where a sizeable percentage of respondents "hate" America.

I  doubt you'll have much success.

I'd say the average black urban dweller is about as dissatisfied with the current state of affairs as your average white blue collar worker.

But that doesn't mean they hate this country, just that they want some changes made.

 

Bwah!

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