2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Will Cox even be here this year? Clearly saw he had issues with the switch to Gannon last season. Didn’t want to have a role where he can’t attack into the backfield. Think he will accept not charging ahead for plays in the backfield in his contract year now?

Idk....they paid him $14 mil...what do you think?   How is the weather on planet Ham...the one where Hurts was the 8th most accurate passer last year?

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Kelce been year to year. Probably his last also honestly. Unbelievably great career. Johnson you do have to consider …but they reworked his deal if I remember. Graham major questions how good he’ll be. Sounds like he’s taking the backup role that rotates in a good amount. Likely last season. But he played very sparingly for years in the beginning. Slay killing it. Riding that horse!

Wow... Kelce needs to learn the system...he is so inexperienced. 

Hargrave was terrible against the run. Will he improve run stoping? His production dropped once he garnered more focus. Double blocking him opened big holes for rushing. Cox didn’t penetrate as well. Think it was conditioning related mostly…but many think age caught up. But it was said that Cox shirked his responsibilities out of frustration with Gannon. Instead of holding ground he shot the gap and penetrated. So we got Davis to anchor and stop the huge holes rushing up the middle. Let the LBs make plays more. Basically the idea right? One way I’d Dline attacking more…the other protecting LBs to make the plays. I don’t think Cox likes the idea….but he is getting older….so him becoming a dominant run stopper more really could work out perfect. Will he embrace that in a contract year? Would you if you were him? But he really can hold up even against double teams. So a less penetrating role would elongate his career you would think. Have Cox and Davis hold down the fort in the middle. Kind of what we saw with TB. Let Reddick, Sweat and Dean make the plays. Enables you to keep some high protection against the big plays…which clearly is what Gannon is afraid of the most.

Yeah...they subbed Cox out of the game often????    If he was so out of shape why did he play all those snaps?

And stop changing the subject.  It's about the silly narrative that you are trying to say that this team is inexperienced compared to the rest of the league and trying to find an excuse for not having the success they should this year.   I'm seeing 11 and 12 wins from all the local bloggers as they do their game by game.  There is nothing difficult about the schedule as far as travel or lack of rest.   They already have their furthest travel game vs AZ where they are missing their best player.

I'm not saying they are going to win every game....but every year there are things that make the schedule difficult with rest or travel or huge matchups on the road.  Nothing like that this year.  It's right there.   No excuses.  

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You know... it was amazing 2017.   Look at the situation.  2nd year coach.. I mean what a pedigree he had prior?    The inexperienced RBs...Blount and Ajayi had to learn a new system...incredible.   The way Alshon and Torrey Smith came in... just like AJ Brown ...it's tough.   Ertz going into year 5.. he wasn't a starter for long.  How did he do it?   Brooks was only year 6 playing next to Lane who was only year 5.... but also was suspended and missed that experience.  

Ohhh ohh...the humanity ,how did they ever win???   Lol.  

You don’t see a problem with Goedert TD production so far? Seems like a real weak spot he hasn’t developed yet to me. Mostly because he wasn’t the man. I think his gained experience and more opportunity will produce a much better player in the endzone. Can’t knock Goedert for much. But he came from a small school. Was a backup. So yeah…think he needed and needs to gain that experience and improve in this area. TE usually one of your top Redzone options. Ward producing almost as much barely being on the field….with no size. Got AJ exactly for the Redzone and beating Press. Could be tops in the league at it here. Blount and Ajayi were pure power rushing backs. Probably the easiest and most transferable skill from college to NFL. But almost feels like you compared Lane being year five with Mailata being the same. Lane a top pick coming from years of big time college football and Mailata coming from Rugby. That’s the largest stretch…..I mean really. Lane year five had the same experience as Mailata year five? Put down the bottle man.

16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Idk....they paid him $14 mil...what do you think?   How is the weather on planet Ham...the one where Hurts was the 8th most accurate passer last year?

So you don’t think a needy team would consider trading for Cox at that price? You know thinking his down year was a usage issue. Can you rely on Cox to do his job and two gap and run stop? I think he’d have to see the light of finding a role here for a few years doing that to accept it. Contract year. Guys get paid getting Sacks and tackles for loss. Basically getting in the backfield.

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah...they subbed Cox out of the game often????    If he was so out of shape why did he play all those snaps?

He was drawing the double teams much of the early season. He’s a big physical guy. But getting off the snap and moving any real distance. His worst season. You don’t check out the pressers. Rosie basically said to the press that Cox is getting older so needs to do more for his body. Can’t remember word for word last offseason…but felt like he said Cox didn’t prepare well enough last offseason.

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And stop changing the subject.  It's about the silly narrative that you are trying to say that this team is inexperienced compared to the rest of the league and trying to find an excuse for not having the success they should this year.   I'm seeing 11 and 12 wins from all the local bloggers as they do their game by game.  There is nothing difficult about the schedule as far as travel or lack of rest.   They already have their furthest travel game vs AZ where they are missing their best player.

I'm not saying they are going to win every game....but every year there are things that make the schedule difficult with rest or travel or huge matchups on the road.  Nothing like that this year.  It's right there.   No excuses.  

Changing defenses takes time. Young players take time. Really only established teams start the beginning of the season at their peak. Many of them don’t even. Last year watching the D early was painful. Didn’t have anything installed worth a crap the first what, six games. But targeted a NT and LBs heavy for a reason. If we go with a young S with Epps and a young corner opposite slay they need some time on the field to reach their peak. Not many players come straight in and don’t need any coaching. Changing from 4-3 to 3-4  along with what we want the Secondary to do is different. Gotta put it all together. Learn your responsibilities and synergy. You know LB to S handoff of coverage and things. Sounds easy and basic for professionals. But you are talking each playcall on D being able to react to every playcall possible from the O. You know plenty of the time the individual responsibilities change based on O playcall. They flood this zone…this is how we do it. Practice and film study just aren’t the same as actual in a game. We’ll see. Maybe Gannon is the greatest DC ever and accomplished everything in TC. Be a miracle.

 But you keep forgetting and ignoring coaches for some reason. Be great if they got everything figured out year one and are st their best starting this TC. Not what I believe will be the case. Think Siri is learning on the job. Not even sure he’s good enough for a top team. Obviously rooting for him. 

My experience is week one is a crapshoot for most every team. Be real hard for me to put money on most any week one matchup. Packers had a team that had been together and came out stinky. If pretty much the whole team comes out flat and lays an egg….who’s fault is that? Hopefully Gannon can simplify a core plan he can use for all the first several games. Get that nailed down in TC while implementing more as the season progresss each week. But have to dig more into the schedule and matchups to have any real opinion.

34 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And stop changing the subject.  It's about the silly narrative that you are trying to say that this team is inexperienced compared to the rest of the league and trying to find an excuse for not having the success they should this year.   I'm seeing 11 and 12 wins from all the local bloggers as they do their game by game.  There is nothing difficult about the schedule as far as travel or lack of rest.   They already have their furthest travel game vs AZ where they are missing their best player.

I'm not saying they are going to win every game....but every year there are things that make the schedule difficult with rest or travel or huge matchups on the road.  Nothing like that this year.  It's right there.   No excuses.  

I’ve seen 7 wins and 8 wins..to some lofty expectations. Week one…who knows? Could lose to a crap team. But I’m stating the goal is win the division. Like to get that home field and play a lesser seed. That comes with expectation to win a playoff game. Feel we are a second tier team in the NFC. So do well enough early to not kill us. Optimistically better than that. But I want the team to be peaking at the end of the season. Not some Cowboys crap. Where they talk about winning the SB week six. Then fade. Think Zona did as well. So the goal is to get to that point for the stretch run. Don’t think to start the season we will be the best. So much still to take place to make any real opinions. We need a S and a Corner. So not even saying our roster is set yet. Need some luck…or whatever with health always helps.

I keep saying we are a second tier team in the NFC. Want to win the division. Not much of excuses about that.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sell the farm? A second round pick for a top S that is young. Think the Eagles farm a little bigger than those there in Carolina.

A round 2 draft pick will be younger

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

That group needs some experience.   

Horrible old men just HORRIBLE

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sell the farm? A second round pick for a top S that is young. Think the Eagles farm a little bigger than those there in Carolina.

AND you gotta PAY the guy lmao

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Kelce been year to year. Probably his last also honestly. Unbelievably great career. Johnson you do have to consider …but they reworked his deal if I remember. Graham major questions how good he’ll be. Sounds like he’s taking the backup role that rotates in a good amount. Likely last season. But he played very sparingly for years in the beginning. Slay killing it. Riding that horse!

He's 34 much too old to play if Gipson can't play. My god he could be Gipson's dad lol

But my worries are with young guys and the coaches being now the league had a year of film on them. Whole offseason to dissect. Weaknesses and tendencies tend to get found out. The other teams are pros also. Best around. So do people figure out Siri tendencies? Can Smitty improve against Press? Hurts will improve but they will come at his weakest areas. Can he overcome and adjust and improve those areas. Some players weakness destroys their career when exposed. The good players find a way and self scout to work on it expecting it.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But my worries are with young guys and the coaches being now the league had a year of film on them. Whole offseason to dissect. Weaknesses and tendencies tend to get found out. The other teams are pros also. Best around. So do people figure out Siri tendencies? Can Smitty improve against Press? Hurts will improve but they will come at his weakest areas. Can he overcome and adjust and improve those areas. Some players weakness destroys their career when exposed. The good players find a way and self scout to work on it expecting it.

We don't do the same thing? No just everyone else does. At any rate Gipson was merely a stop gap suggestion. Your point about his age is insane. He is a whopping 1 year older than Slay and the other old guys we have. I'm sure Gipson along with Slay can give pointers to the newbies. 1 year, he's cheap,then he's gone.BIG DEAL. You are always harping about "vets" in the room,so I offer one up and it's bashville LOL. Funny

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

A round 2 draft pick will be younger

Horrible old men just HORRIBLE

Round two draft pick next year. Does nothing for this team. But a round two S picked by Rosie….or a proven stud that is barely older than some draft picks. Just like I approve of squiring AJ…I approve of this hypothetical trade. Be nice to figure out his contract long term before we make the deal. I don’t know what to complain about here? Gotta pay him and give a second? For a proven top S. I do it…no doubt. That would be pretty big for this team. Think other vet S will get cut or traded as cap casualties or young players show well. Got the whole PS not even close. All the way until the trade deadline. 

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He's 34 much too old to play if Gipson can't play. My god he could be Gipson's dad lol

Tom Brady is 44. You want to pick up a bunch of forty year olds. He was in the MVP race.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Round two draft pick next year. Does nothing for this team. But a round two S picked by Rosie….or a proven stud that is barely older than some draft picks. Just like I approve of squiring AJ…I approve of this hypothetical trade. Be nice to figure out his contract long term before we make the deal. I don’t know what to complain about here? Gotta pay him and give a second? For a proven top S. I do it…no doubt. That would be pretty big for this team. Think other vet S will get cut or traded as cap casualties or young players show well. Got the whole PS not even close. All the way until the trade deadline. 

Right, pay big bucks,give up draft capital for basically the same stats as"the old man" Smart(not). Besides who says cincy wants to trade this guy except some writer trying to stay employed? Gipson is available RIGHT NOW!

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Tom Brady is 44. You want to pick up a bunch of forty year olds. He was in the MVP race.

Tell Tom to hang it up.Buy him a wheelchair,Gipson too. Maybe you can get a group rate deal for Kelce,Graham and the other old men that can't play

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Tom Brady is 44. You want to pick up a bunch of forty year olds. He was in the MVP race.

BTW who is 40? Gipson is 31(that's 9 years younger,13 younger than brady) But apparently Brady is the only one who can play past 32. Your logic is unbelievable LOL

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/formula-for-the-defense-jonathan-gannon-hits-principle   This article is from last year. Now he is getting the players he wants,so we'll see now what he wants to do

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/eagles-jonathan-gannon-haason-reddick-mystery-defense   So,let the guy work his defense they way he wants it. The influx of young guys will grow into whatever he has in mind. Solidify things this year,and make your QB decision(whatever that is),in the meantime the defense will get better as they play together,offense too. So you have to believe in the system and let these coaches build their team(our team).

50 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/formula-for-the-defense-jonathan-gannon-hits-principle   This article is from last year. Now he is getting the players he wants,so we'll see now what he wants to do

He was all about Kerrigan, Harris and Wilson. Think he pretty well struck out on all three honestly. Like I said with Harris….he’s very familiar with the scheme and language. So he can probably play several roles and knows all the plays. On the downside and not a great player but gives Gannon more flexibility to be able to call more plays and not be as limited. HITS sounds nice. Good fundamental slogan. Be good for high school kids even. Doesn’t really mean crap. Generic coach speak. I do think Gannon is a big time student of the game. So I’m sure he studied every D ever imagined. What I take out of it is he is knowledgeable. Wants to try and confuse the OC. Kind of just feel he’s open to putting in any package to add in that week for an opponent. He probably has a good idea of how each O playcall can be stopped with a specific D playcall. So you study the opponent. Probably figure out a couple plays they favor that maybe your most basic D calls isn’t ideal. So practice that week adding a 4-3 Under playcall to shut it down(as an example). OC hasn’t studied it and expecting it from you also as a benefit.