3 minutes ago, greend said:

Why not? It's preseason

Swamp ball might kind of be like snow bowl which is cool

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Then show me the massive development in a QB drafted by the Eagles under Reid.

 

2 minutes ago, greend said:

 Dude, give it up. If you develop any quarterback from college into a probowl quarterback it's massive. What do you want? Reid to scour the country for the worst college quarterback and win 15 super bowls with him.

Nope.  But McNabbs numbers, other than the season with TO do not really change much from the average.  Development tells me that he starts at the beginning, and by the end, the numbers are higher than the average consistently.

8 minutes ago, greend said:

 Dude, give it up. If you develop any quarterback from college into a probowl quarterback it's massive. What do you want? Reid to scour the country for the worst college quarterback and win 15 super bowls with him.

Woulda been nice to get something out of Mike McMahon

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Nope.  But McNabbs numbers, other than the season with TO do not really change much from the average.  Development tells me that he starts at the beginning, and by the end, the numbers are higher than the average consistently.

Jerry Rice never developed as a receiver.  Joe Montana also never developed.  Tom Brady = not developed.  Peyton Manning = Hall of Shame for his failure to develop.  

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Consider who’s trying to make that argument.  

Walsh developed a great offense.  He was a great architect -- not a great QB guru.  Montana, Young, and Ken Anderson were all just as good or better without him as with him.  Walsh-Montana as a great combo I can buy.  Walsh making Young or Anderson?  That's a big reach.  Anderson was a better QB during the 80s late in his career than he was in the 70s, and Walsh was loooong gone by then.

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Consider who’s trying to make that argument.  

I missed who said it... so I guess that tells me all I need to know.   

19 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Just when it felt like there would be no Nasty Nate this year…

The promising player that gets injured should be a different category.  

That's the Joe Ostman award. But Ostman is still here so it doesn't feel right to name an award after him yet.  In the interim, it may be the Cornelius Ingram award, or the JaCory Shepherd award.

8 minutes ago, greend said:

 Dude, give it up. If you develop any quarterback from college into a probowl quarterback it's massive. What do you want? Reid to scour the country for the worst college quarterback and win 15 super bowls with him.

Yes, in the same year!

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Walsh developed a great offense.  He was a great architect -- not a great QB guru.  Montana, Young, and Ken Anderson were all just as good or better without him as with him.  Walsh-Montana as a great combo I can buy.  Walsh making Young or Anderson?  That's a big reach.  Anderson was a better QB during the 80s late in his career than he was in the 70s, and Walsh was loooong gone by then.

Anderson led the league in more single season statistical categories in the 70's under Walsh than he did in the 80's.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

The promising player that gets injured should be a different category.  

That's the Joe Ostman award. But Ostman is still here so it doesn't feel right to name an award after him yet.  In the interim, it may be the Cornelius Ingram award, or the JaCory Shepherd award.

Ostman also was never promising. 

Shepherd works I guess. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

The promising player that gets injured should be a different category.  

That's the Joe Ostman award. But Ostman is still here so it doesn't feel right to name an award after him yet.  In the interim, it may be the Cornelius Ingram award, or the JaCory Shepherd award.

Just wanted to point out this is very different from the JR Reed award which is for a promising player that does something stupid to get injured off the field

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Nope.  But McNabbs numbers, other than the season with TO do not really change much from the average.  Development tells me that he starts at the beginning, and by the end, the numbers are higher than the average consistently.

Development doesn't mean becoming better than average.  It means becoming better than you were. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Just wanted to point out this is very different from the JR Reed award which is for a promising player that does something stupid to get injured off the field

Jernigan won that

13 minutes ago, greend said:

Dude, give it up. If you develop any quarterback from college into a probowl quarterback it's massive.

Pro Bowls, hilarious.  There has been absolute clowns that have made the pro bowl.  Are we gonna use the NFL network top 100 as the next measuring stick ??

lol how is this conversation about developing QBs still going? Must be a slow news day smh🙄

Who gets the first annual Ben Simmons award for the player on the team that the fans and city hates the most? It’s a city wide sports award 

16 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Consider who’s trying to make that argument.  

@4for4EaglesNest

You know for someone that claims to have me on ignore you sure do seem to have a difficult time not taking veiled shots at me any and every chance you get.

at least be man enough to say it to me directly.

I wouldn't expect anything else from a coward though...

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Walsh developed a great offense.  He was a great architect -- not a great QB guru.  Montana, Young, and Ken Anderson were all just as good or better without him as with him.  Walsh-Montana as a great combo I can buy.  Walsh making Young or Anderson?  That's a big reach.  Anderson was a better QB during the 80s late in his career than he was in the 70s, and Walsh was loooong gone by then.

Ummm... what?  
Anderson didn't have an NFL career before Walsh. 
Montana didn't have an NFL career before Walsh.
Young was an embarrassment before Walsh.

 

What they did with and after Walsh was a result of their development with Walsh.  This is hilarious.  If you are talking about Anderson's stats to prove that he was 'better' without Walsh, that just shows that you are out of your element.  Ken Anderson's first Pro Bowl appearance happened in his last year with Walsh.  That would indicate he was 'developed' during that time.  The fact that he was able to maintain that level is a credit to the development he had.  The fact that his stats improved in the 80s... might be related to the changes to the game as a result of some very specific rule changes that opened up the passing game more... check the big rule changes in 1978 for some information about that.

Montana was drafted by Walsh... And they made history together.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Jernigan won that

Did it ever come out what he actually did 

JR jumped a fence what did jernigan do???

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Who gets the first annual Ben Simmons award for the player on the team that the fans and city hates the most? It’s a city wide sports award 

JNAW

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ummm... what?  
Anderson didn't have an NFL career before Walsh. 
Montana didn't have an NFL career before Walsh.
Young was an embarrassment before Walsh.

 

What they did with and after Walsh was a result of their development with Walsh.  This is hilarious.  If you are talking about Anderson's stats to prove that he was 'better' without Walsh, that just shows that you are out of your element.  Ken Anderson's first Pro Bowl appearance happened in his last year with Walsh.  That would indicate he was 'developed' during that time.  The fact that he was able to maintain that level is a credit to the development he had.  The fact that his stats improved in the 80s... might be related to the changes to the game as a result of some very specific rule changes that opened up the passing game more... check the big rule changes in 1978 for some information about that.

Montana was drafted by Walsh... And they made history together.

Out of curiosity what were the big rule changes in 1978???, that's a little before my time.

1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said:

Hoping the rain doesn't impact the game tomorrow. 

Rain is being very good for my crops.  Prolific year for peppers.  I did fajitas on Sunday with my veggies coming from the garden except onions. Poblanos, jalapeños, serranos, bells, Hatchs, Anaheims - all doing well. Habaneros and cayennes flowering now.  Bumper zucchini crop and my tomatoes are thriving. Looks like I am about a week away for my first tomatillos. Salsa verde real soon. Should have NM red and green sauces too.  And who knew that paprikas grow so well.  Home grown and smoked paprika probably in September. The jalapeño I dedicated to ripening on the plant for drying and smoking is well on the way to giving me chipotles.   Going to ancho some of the poblanos too. The rain this week after all the heat has been very good.  Now stopping tomorrow so I can mow and watch a decent PS game testing more players works for me.  Just let it keep raining today.

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

The plot thickens.  FBI investigating Watson accusers for extortion.

 

In a battle of truthfulness, I believe Rusty over Buzbee based on personal experience. 

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Rain is being very good for my crops.  Prolific year for peppers.  I did fajitas on Sunday with my veggies coming from the garden except onions. Poblanos, jalapeños, serranos, bells, Hatchs, Anaheims - all doing well. Habaneros and cayennes flowering now.  Bumper zucchini crop and my tomatoes are thriving. Looks like I am about a week away for my first tomatillos. Salsa verde real soon. Should have NM red and green sauces too.  And who knew that paprikas grow so well.  Home grown and smoked paprika probably in September. The jalapeño I dedicated to ripening on the plant for drying and smoking is well on the way to giving me chipotles.   Going to ancho some of the poblanos too. The rain this week after all the heat has been very good.  Now stopping tomorrow so I can mow and watch a decent PS game testing more players works for me.  Just let it keep raining today.

My mouth is watering....I love all the peppers