DeVonta Smith (Alabama WR) -- DRAFTED BY EAGLES #10!

[Outlaw]

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

I don't want to draft yet another QB high (I think we need to see what we have with Wentz and Hurts ... can a new coaching staff get the best out of either?).  I don't think Sewell will be there (and honestly am glad ... he'd be a great pick but not exactly address one of our biggest positions of need).  I don't think there is a lot of separation between the projected top tier CBs Surtain or Farley (who I am not as high on as some others) compared to some in that next tier (Samuel Jr, Horn, Campbell).  So I want either Chase, Smith, or Parsons with 6 and then one of those 2nd tier CBs with 37.  

I see the top 5 going like this:

1. Lawrence- JAX

2. Fields- NYJ

3. DeVonta- MIA

4. Wilson- ATL

5. Sewell- CIN

 

That leaves Chase as BPA in my opinion.  Of course the Jets could go Sewell or Smith if they stick with Darnold for their new coach, and that throws my whole projection off.

[kentwo]

With the Heisman and last night's performance, don't think Smith will be there at 6.

 

 

 

 

[kentwo]

8 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I see the top 5 going like this:

1. Lawrence- JAX

2. Fields- NYJ

3. DeVonta- MIA

4. Wilson- ATL

5. Sewell- CIN

 

That leaves Chase as BPA in my opinion.  Of course the Jets could go Sewell or Smith if they stick with Darnold for their new coach, and that throws my whole projection off.

Worst case scenario: Jets take Smith, MIA takes Chase, CIN take Sewell.

Leaving Surtain or Farley. Maybe trade down if someone wants Fields.

[philafan4o8]

Smith and Chase will be like AJ Green and Julio Draft. Neither team that drafts these guys loses.

[Milkman420]

28 minutes ago, philafan4o8 said:

Smith and Chase will be like AJ Green and Julio Draft. Neither team that drafts these guys loses.

While they both appear to be very good prospects your comparing them to 2 of the best wr prospects of all time.  Not to mention neither of them are over 6ft and neither will run under 4.4.  So not sure how they compare to two guys that are bigger then 6’2 run like gazelles and had no questions about being able to take a hit.  That’s my issue with smith is it’s very easy to see him not holding up over the course of a year at his size and chase doesn’t have elite athleticism you normally see in top wr prospects( I know that’s not the end all be all) but still worrisome with that high of a pick

[philafan4o8]

12 minutes ago, Milkman420 said:

While they both appear to be very good prospects your comparing them to 2 of the best wr prospects of all time.  Not to mention neither of them are over 6ft and neither will run under 4.4.  So not sure how they compare to two guys that are bigger then 6’2 run like gazelles and had no questions about being able to take a hit.  That’s my issue with smith is it’s very easy to see him not holding up over the course of a year at his size and chase doesn’t have elite athleticism you normally see in top wr prospects( I know that’s not the end all be all) but still worrisome with that high of a pick

Did I say these guys were going to be Julio and Green? That is how you read it so let me be clear. No I am not saying they are Julio Jones and AJ Green. I said it is going to be like that draft where neither team loses. The teams will be happy with their selections as I think both WRs will not be bust.

[eaglegenius]

If Wentz is the QB Smith would be wasted here. As soon as the fans favorited him, Wentz would stop "seeing him" on the field in favor of pulling the ball down and trying to run with it.

[Wieber81]

5 hours ago, Outlaw said:

I see the top 5 going like this:

1. Lawrence- JAX

2. Fields- NYJ

3. DeVonta- MIA

4. Wilson- ATL

5. Sewell- CIN

 

That leaves Chase as BPA in my opinion.  Of course the Jets could go Sewell or Smith if they stick with Darnold for their new coach, and that throws my whole projection off.

That leaves us Chase or Surtain. I'm a defense guy so you know the way in leaning

[Wieber81]

3 hours ago, eaglegenius said:

If Wentz is the QB Smith would be wasted here. As soon as the fans favorited him, Wentz would stop "seeing him" on the field in favor of pulling the ball down and trying to run with it.

So your saying Wentz has a Jealousy complex

[Outlaw]

36 minutes ago, Wieber81 said:

That leaves us Chase or Surtain. I'm a defense guy so you know the way in leaning

I can’t justify Surtain at 6 over Chase, who I feel is the best WR prospect we’ve seen in a few years. Small move down to 8-9 I’d feel much better about it. 

[UK_EaglesFan89]

7 hours ago, Outlaw said:

I can’t justify Surtain at 6 over Chase, who I feel is the best WR prospect we’ve seen in a few years. Small move down to 8-9 I’d feel much better about it. 

Agreed. Chase has a chance to be special and I'm not sure Surtain will. 

[time2rock]

16 hours ago, eaglegenius said:

If Wentz is the QB Smith would be wasted here. As soon as the fans favorited him, Wentz would stop "seeing him" on the field in favor of pulling the ball down and trying to run with it.

Well if Wentz is starting you'd hope it is because the new coaching staff worked with him on his overall game and many of the problems he developed have been resolved.  :fingers crossed:

[PoconoDon]

4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Agreed. Chase has a chance to be special and I'm not sure Surtain will. 

If he went to a Seattle like zone defensive scheme, then I think he could thrive because his deep speed wouldn't be called on much, if at all.

[UK_EaglesFan89]

1 hour ago, PoconoDon said:

If he went to a Seattle like zone defensive scheme, then I think he could thrive because his deep speed wouldn't be called on much, if at all.

Agreed. And hey who knows what defensive scheme we are going to have here under a new DC. I just think Chase can be special and that's not to say that Surtain can't be a really really good corner. 

[eaglegenius]

6 hours ago, time2rock said:

Well if Wentz is starting you'd hope it is because the new coaching staff worked with him on his overall game and many of the problems he developed have been resolved.  :fingers crossed:

Hope, yes. Expectating it'd work, no.

Even before Wentz was injured by the Rams, I posted a warning that he was a showboat and if he wasn't reeled in he'd get injured.
I'm not happy I was right, but the dude's ego is his downfall. He wants to be spectacular, doesn't care about playing smart.

Colin Cowherd just recommended Joe Brady for the Eagles new coach and I agree that would probably be the best choice
to straighten out the QB situation. If not him, then maybe Eric Bienemy (who probably is the front runner because he's black.)

 

[Milkman420]

4 hours ago, eaglegenius said:

Hope, yes. Expectating it'd work, no.

Even before Wentz was injured by the Rams, I posted a warning that he was a showboat and if he wasn't reeled in he'd get injured.
I'm not happy I was right, but the dude's ego is his downfall. He wants to be spectacular, doesn't care about playing smart.

Colin Cowherd just recommended Joe Brady for the Eagles new coach and I agree that would probably be the best choice
to straighten out the QB situation. If not him, then maybe Eric Bienemy (who probably is the front runner because he's black.)

 

I wouldn’t say that because he’s black he’s the front runner. Kind of racist actually.  He’s deserving of being a front runner and not just for the eagles but the eagles especially due to ties to Reid.  He’s led a top 5 offense 3 years in a row I would imagine that has something to do with it but maybe that’s just me

[Alphagrand]

On 1/12/2021 at 12:19 PM, eaglegenius said:

If Wentz is the QB Smith would be wasted here. As soon as the fans favorited him, Wentz would stop "seeing him" on the field in favor of pulling the ball down and trying to run with it.

I’m positive you actually mean Hurts with this portion 

[Ray75]

Interesting read for all Smith fans...

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/devonta-smith-2021-nfl-draft-evaluation-size-concerns

[UK_EaglesFan89]

I do think as a go to guy those size concerns are legit. That said I do really like Smith as a prospect but it's a difficult one. 

 

[philafan4o8]

If he is there at #6 you take him. He is a better prospect that every defensive player on the board. If him and Chase are there then grab one of them.

[time2rock]

7 hours ago, Ray75 said:

Interesting read for all Smith fans...

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/devonta-smith-2021-nfl-draft-evaluation-size-concerns

That's a great read.  If both are still available at 6 and we take one of them, my money is on Howie picking Smith.  He is going to see the production over the past 2 years (vs only 1 year for Chase) and will go with production.  He'll completely ignore the concerns over "play strength".  He seems to focus on one key attribute (last year = speed, hence taking Reagor over Jefferson who was clearly the better overall prospect).  

[Ray75]

10 minutes ago, time2rock said:

That's a great read.  If both are still available at 6 and we take one of them, my money is on Howie picking Smith.  He is going to see the production over the past 2 years (vs only 1 year for Chase) and will go with production.  He'll completely ignore the concerns over "play strength".  He seems to focus on one key attribute (last year = speed, hence taking Reagor over Jefferson who was clearly the better overall prospect).  

Unless they hire Joe Brady of course.

[time2rock]

9 minutes ago, Ray75 said:

Unless they hire Joe Brady of course.

Well ... maybe.  Guess it all depends on who Lurie tells Howie to draft.  

[Ray75]

10 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Well ... maybe.  Guess it all depends on who Lurie tells Howie to draft.  

Ha, ha. Did you really have to bring that up?

[time2rock]

42 minutes ago, Ray75 said:

Ha, ha. Did you really have to bring that up?

I do have to wonder if there really is any truth to that.  Seems maybe Lurie could potentially be trying to deflect blame for some of those picks, using his position to shield Howie (protect his golden child).