1 minute ago, BayAreaLennie said:

Yep, and 2 of those wins are intra-division.  They are 2-10 against the rest of the NFL.

That certainly helps us quite a bit if the Colts continue to be mediocre at best but remain in the playoff hunt.  They'll have less incentive to bench Wentz (not that I believe that would be an issue anyway unless he gets injured and is unable to play).  I'm on the side that feel they won't want to bruise his ego even further.

 

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

If the Colts are in the playoff hunt it means theyre playing Wentz and they already have 7 wins, which is around 15-18

If the colts arent in the playoff hunt it's gonna be around 10 and theyd bench wentz. 

I'm unsure what you dont get. The Colts decide if we do or dont get that pick. No Franchise is dumb enough to give away a top 12ish pick

And I'm unsure what you don't get.  If the Colts are in the playoff hunt, they could easily have just 5 wins, and maybe even just 4, not 7 as you state.   Last year the Eagles were in the playoff hunt at 4-9-1 - if they had won their last two games, they would have made the playoffs.  NFL teams do not give up chances to make the playoffs easily.

5 minutes ago, time2rock said:

That certainly helps us quite a bit if the Colts continue to be mediocre at best but remain in the playoff hunt.  They'll have less incentive to bench Wentz (not that I believe that would be an issue anyway unless he gets injured and is unable to play).  I'm on the side that feel they won't want to bruise his ego even further.

Yep.  He comes to them pre-butthurt on the late season benching issue - he showed last year he does not react well to it.  They will be reluctant to open that can of worms unless they are really just giving up on him altogether.

15 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

What I love about Miami is that we can just hope they lose every week unconditionally.

With the Colts we kind of want them to lose, but not too much before Wentz hits the minimum.

 

 

Nobody should be rooting for the Colts to lose until Wentz hits the minimum.

With the Colts,  the Eagles either get 1) a medium or worse first round pick   2) a good first round pick  3) a second round pick.

2 is slightly better than 1,  and both 2 and 1 are much better than 3.  You really don't want to root for a result that could get you 3 when 1 and 2 are both much better than 3.    Not rooting at all about Colts games until December seems best.   If there is any rooting, it's that Wentz doesn't get hurt.

1 hour ago, Random Reglar said:

 

Nobody should be rooting for the Colts to lose until Wentz hits the minimum.

With the Colts,  the Eagles either get 1) a medium or worse first round pick   2) a good first round pick  3) a second round pick.

2 is slightly better than 1,  and both 2 and 1 are much better than 3.  You really don't want to root for a result that could get you 3 when 1 and 2 are both much better than 3.    Not rooting at all about Colts games until December seems best.   If there is any rooting, it's that Wentz doesn't get hurt.

We can cautiously root for the Colts to lose. They could still very much be in the mix at 5-7 in a weak division, potentially even 4-8.

But I agree, we really need Wentz to stay healthy

6 hours ago, NOTW said:

Bad: there's no chance Howie uses all his picks, he'll trade up/down or to another team for a player

Odds that he trades 2 of them to the Colts for Wentz?  

6 hours ago, birdman#12 said:

3 first round draft picks could go a long way into fixing the defense unless Howie sh--s the bed.

He will, he does it every year, what's makes you think this upcoming draft will be any different?

2 hours ago, BayAreaLennie said:

You're just wrong about the range in item 2 -- as explained already, the Colts could easily be in the playoff hunt with a mediocre record, keep playing Wentz, crater at the end of the season, and end up giving up a top 10-12 pick.  The odds are certainly not better than 50-50, but if you are not seeing that path it is because you refuse to see it, not because it is not there.

I think the odds are very unlikely, but you have a point. I realized the same thing when looking at Colts & Titans remaining schedule the other day. Colts games after the bye arent that forgiving, they’ll most likely only win 1 game out of that. If they’re at 4-6 wins at the bye, it’s possible they could still be in the playoff hunt. Finish the season around 5-7 wins on their record, that’d definitely be a top 15 pick. I don’t think top 10 will happen, but 11-20 range is most likely what it’ll be

8 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Looking at the rest of Miami's schedule, how many more wins do you think they'll have (regardless of if/when Tua returns)?  I give them at least 3 more (split with Jets, Jags, Houston) and at most 6 more...which would make for an at-worst record of 4-13 or hopefully an at-best record of 7-10 (or somewhere in between).  4-13 would def = top 5 - 8.  7-10 will probably equate to around pick 10-13.

Wouldn't that be something if Miami just completely fell apart and ended up somewhere between 1-16 and 3-14?  Unfortunately I think Flores is too good of a coach to let them fall apart that bad.

@Tampa - L
vs. Jags - W
vs. Falcons - L (but could be a W)
@Buffalo - L
vs. Houston - W
vs. Baltimore - L
@Jets - L (but could be a W)
vs. Panthers - L
vs. Giants - L (but could be a W)
vs. Jets - W 
@Saints - L
@Titans - L
vs. Patriots - L

What say you?

I say its a long season no one knows how it will play out one game at a time as they say.

8 hours ago, birdman#12 said:

Hopefully, Wentz stays healthy and the colts stumble and bumble this year.   3 first round draft picks could go a long way into fixing the defense unless Howie sh--s the bed.

Haaave you seen Howie's defensive drafting? 

43 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Haaave you seen Howie's defensive drafting? 

 

9 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

 

This is the year! He's gonna finally nail the primary responsibility of his job. 

10 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Looking at the rest of Miami's schedule, how many more wins do you think they'll have (regardless of if/when Tua returns)?  I give them at least 3 more (split with Jets, Jags, Houston) and at most 6 more...which would make for an at-worst record of 4-13 or hopefully an at-best record of 7-10 (or somewhere in between).  4-13 would def = top 5 - 8.  7-10 will probably equate to around pick 10-13.

Wouldn't that be something if Miami just completely fell apart and ended up somewhere between 1-16 and 3-14?  Unfortunately I think Flores is too good of a coach to let them fall apart that bad.

@Tampa - L
vs. Jags - W
vs. Falcons - W (but could be a W) Falcons stink
@Buffalo - L
vs. Houston - W
vs. Baltimore - L
@Jets - W (but could be a W) The Jets stink
vs. Panthers - L
vs. Giants - W (but could be a W) Giants stink
vs. Jets - W Jets will still stink
@Saints - L
@Titans - L
vs. Patriots - L

What say you?

7 wins

Praying Praying, Miami does not win a game from here.......

 

 

Fly Eagles Fly

11 hours ago, EaglesAddict said:

Looking at the rest of Miami's schedule, how many more wins do you think they'll have (regardless of if/when Tua returns)?  I give them at least 3 more (split with Jets, Jags, Houston) and at most 6 more...which would make for an at-worst record of 4-13 or hopefully an at-best record of 7-10 (or somewhere in between).  4-13 would def = top 5 - 8.  7-10 will probably equate to around pick 10-13.

Wouldn't that be something if Miami just completely fell apart and ended up somewhere between 1-16 and 3-14?  Unfortunately I think Flores is too good of a coach to let them fall apart that bad.

@Tampa - L
vs. Jags - W
vs. Falcons - L (but could be a W)
@Buffalo - L
vs. Houston - W
vs. Baltimore - L
@Jets - L (but could be a W)
vs. Panthers - L
vs. Giants - L (but could be a W)
vs. Jets - W 
@Saints - L
@Titans - L
vs. Patriots - L

What say you?

You can't predict outcomes this far in advance.  Time will tell.

17 hours ago, NOTW said:

Good: high picks
Bad: Howie is the one making the picks
Good: Howie less likely to screw up the higher the pick
Bad: there's no chance Howie uses all his picks, he'll trade up/down or to another team for a player

You know Howie with his third eye thinking. It is very possible Howie uses at least one of these picks to trade down to try and accumulate additional first round picks for 2023, especially if he’s not in love with any of the quarterbacks in this draft. Of course that means all of the quarterbacks in this draft become elite. 😂

13 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I'm not sure Miami are going to pick up too many more wins. I'm not sure Tua is much of an upgrade at this point on Brissett is he?

Miami is still in the Watson game, but despite his talent I’m not sure if he’s enough to get them back to winning. 

15 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I'm not sure Miami are going to pick up too many more wins. I'm not sure Tua is much of an upgrade at this point on Brissett is he?

He's an upgrade on Brissett, but not a dramatic one.  Miami will have a better chance to win with Tua.  We just have to hope that the wheels come off on Miami's season at some point and the players start day dreaming about the offseason.  I wish they had a HC like Adam Gase, then we'd be assured a top 5 pick!

Another possibility is if Miami eventually DOES pull of this rumored trade interest and gets Watson, with Tua being part of the package.  Then, once Watson gets there, the NFL steps in and puts him on the exempt list.  Then chaos ensues in Miami.  I can't imagine the NFL would really like the optics of Watson getting killer media coverage and then stepping on the field amidst all of this crap circling over him.

16 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I'm not sure Miami are going to pick up too many more wins. I'm not sure Tua is much of an upgrade at this point on Brissett is he?

I have Dolphins season tickets this year.  The buffalo game was brutal.  Tua was sacked on 2 of the first 3 plays and knocked out the 2nd series.  Their O line is horrible.  Head coach is a defensive coach and often those teams have poor offenses.  I don't see them rebounding.  This pick will be a high one.

4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Miami is still in the Watson game, but despite his talent I’m not sure if he’s enough to get them back to winning. 

He'll end up winning a few games I think. If they trade for Watson that will absolutely hurt us in terms of the Miami end draft position. It'll still be top half of the draft but I don't think it'll be top 5 which right now there's a good chance it could be. 

1 hour ago, weko said:

I have Dolphins season tickets this year.  The buffalo game was brutal.  Tua was sacked on 2 of the first 3 plays and knocked out the 2nd series.  Their O line is horrible.  Head coach is a defensive coach and often those teams have poor offenses.  I don't see them rebounding.  This pick will be a high one.

I don't disagree but then what's happened there? I mean last year they looked like an up and coming team, this year they look like a team at the bottom of the league. I get that last year may have been a one off but to fall that far and fast?

12 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don't disagree but then what's happened there? I mean last year they looked like an up and coming team, this year they look like a team at the bottom of the league. I get that last year may have been a one off but to fall that far and fast?

The O is not working at all.  They have invested in the WR position but the Oline is awful and Tua is limited.  Doesn't have a great arm and is small weak not athletic.  The OC may be lacking too, can't really tell.  This has caused the entire team to lose confidence.  They just play like losers so far.  Lucky they won at NE or they'd be 0-4. They inch down the field.  Can't hit on big plays.  Something is wrong with the offense.

3 hours ago, weko said:

They inch down the field.  Can't hit on big plays.  Something is wrong with the offense.

Which given they drafted Waddle at #6 is odd because he's meant to be that big play guy isn't he?

4 hours ago, weko said:

The O is not working at all.  They have invested in the WR position but the Oline is awful and Tua is limited.  Doesn't have a great arm and is small weak not athletic.  The OC may be lacking too, can't really tell.  This has caused the entire team to lose confidence.  They just play like losers so far.  Lucky they won at NE or they'd be 0-4. They inch down the field.  Can't hit on big plays.  Something is wrong with the offense.

They drafted that kid from ND, in the 2nd rnd, a 3 year starter at LT, and he immediately goes to RT for Miami.  Tua is a lefty so maybe that’s why, but he’s getting killed out there.  

1 hour ago, The Blackfish said:

They drafted that kid from ND, in the 2nd rnd, a 3 year starter at LT, and he immediately goes to RT for Miami.  Tua is a lefty so maybe that’s why, but he’s getting killed out there.  

He started week 1 at LT and switched Because Austin Jackson (Starting LT) recovered from whatever he was dealing with.