March 2, 2025Mar 2 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: At the start of the meeting Trump says he's there to sign a deal. Z was right there and didn't dispute it. So Rubio and other US officials who say he was there to sign a deal and the media saying Z was there to sign a deal are all lying as well? OK. That's why they had a press conference and not a closed deal meeting to negotiate, dude. Yes, Trump said that. Not Zelensky. Your problem is in believing this president at his word. He lies. Continuously. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-trump-economic-deal-faf1ff881802c923370053e539ec26e4 Quote Zelenskyy said a news conference early Wednesday in Kyiv that a framework of an economic deal had been reached, but that it did not yet include U.S. security guarantees, which his country sees as vital. The full agreement could hinge on the upcoming talks in Washington. ... Ukraine needs to know first where the U.S. stands on its continued military support, Zelenskyy said. He said he expected a wide-ranging conversation with Trump. The economic agreement "may be part of future security guarantees, but I want to understand the broader vision. What awaits Ukraine?” Zelensky said.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Yes, Trump said that. Not Zelensky. Your problem is in believing this president at his word. He lies. Continuously. https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-trump-economic-deal-faf1ff881802c923370053e539ec26e4 Yeah, and Rubio is lying as well. OK. At this point, whatever makes you feel happy, dude. The end result was Z got **** slapped as he deserved to. Even the lover of wars turned on him for a reason.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 30 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: For our part of it? Absolutely. @we_gotta_believe graciously just posted what I said in 2022 proving I'm not a fan of Russia and was proud of the Ukrainian people including Z until he turned out to be a POS. Thanks WGB!!! But yeah, we played a big part of this BS. And all you have done recently is make excuses for Putin by blaming your own country instead. Do we need to start a gofundme to buy your stupid ass a one-way plane ticket to Moscow? Unamerican pieces of garbage like you deserve to understand first hand how great it is living in Russia under Putin's rule.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: Yeah, and Rubio is lying as well. OK. At this point, whatever makes you feel happy, dude. The end result was Z got **** slapped as he deserved to. The right guy is in charge and anyone pissed about that has to deal with it. The end result was that the United States was embarrassed by its president. He looked like a weak b**ch who instead of responding to the truths that Zelensky was stating decided to shout him down and protect Putin like a cuck. It's shameful.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: You mean after the regime change the US was part of? Yeah, we can dive into that as well if you'd like. You keep throwing sh.t against the wall and are hoping it sticks. Look, we can have different views and opinions on this subject. I don’t claim to know it all, but facts still have to remain facts. Sure, the Maidan Revolution - I know about it. Did both sides try to influence that? Sure, but ask yourself why the majority of the people rather wanted democracy over autocracy?! Do you believe that the Russian people are happy and jolly with the autocratic regime? If they actually had a fair chance, what type of government form would they want?!
March 2, 2025Mar 2 Just now, we_gotta_believe said: And try all you have done recently is make excuses for Putin. Do we need to start a gofundme to buy your stupid ass a one-way plane ticket to Moscow? Unamerican pieces of garbage like you deserve to understand first hand how great is is living in Russia under Putin's rule. Uh o....the midget is angry and ranting again 🤣 You posts already exonerated me of that. Thanks, elf on the shelf!
March 2, 2025Mar 2 4 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said: You keep throwing sh.t against the wall and are hoping it sticks. Look, we can have different views and opinions on this subject. I don’t claim to know it all, but facts still have to remain facts. Sure, the Maidan Revolution - I know about it. Did both sides try to influence that? Sure, but ask yourself why the majority of the people rather wanted democracy over autocracy?! Do you believe that the Russian people are happy and jolly with the autocratic regime? If they actually had a fair chance, what type of government form would they want?! Honestly, I'm more interested in talking to Americans about American policy and don't give a F about what dumb Germans think as I'm dealing with enough from my country, but thanks for checking in.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The end result was that the United States was embarrassed by its president. He looked like a weak b**ch who instead of responding to the truths that Zelensky was stating decided to shout him down and protect Putin like a cuck. It's shameful. As I posted even the lover of wars LG changed his tune for a reason.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 11 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said: What are you even talking about? What is tried to move them? What kept master Bush from moving them? You omit that Russia started the proxy war in 2014! Long before Biden. Ask yourself if this would even be an issue if Putin didn’t want parts of Ukraine to begin with. Offering NATO happened because Russia took land from Ukraine. And even if not, Russia signed the Treaty of 1997 with the Veto Waiver. FACTS Just an FYI. You're trying to argue with someone who has a well established history of mental illness. Whatever he tells you today will change tomorrow the minute Dear Leader tells him something different. There is no lie too unbelievable for that dude to parrot so long as it comes from his hero.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 16 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: According to Rubio that's incorrect. He was there to sign a deal. There is no way Trump would have him there to sign a deal that would be NATO under a different name. Of course not. Trump believed the entire time he could pressure Zelensky. There is no record whatsoever of any agreement. Where are you getting that from? Rubio said no such thing after the debacle. Zelensky, on the other hand has been very clear time and again that he will need a security agreement.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Honestly, I'm more interested in talking to Americans about American policy and don't give a F about what dumb Germans think as I'm dealing with enough from my country, but thanks for checking in. You're blocked. He's an American nimbnut
March 2, 2025Mar 2 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: Honestly, I'm more interested in talking to Americans about American policy and don't give a F about what Germans think but thanks for checking in. Funniest post of the year! You should get a Medal of Honor fella. That’s the problem these days.. people can’t deal if facts don’t match up with their fake news. ok fine, you and I can end our discussion here… but just so you know, I’m American just like you.🥳
March 2, 2025Mar 2 Just now, DrPhilly said: Of course not. Trump believed the entire time he could pressure Zelensky. There is no record whatsoever of any agreement. Where are you getting that from? Rubio said no such thing after the debacle. Zelensky, on the other hand has been very clear time and again that he will need a security agreement. He did in multiple interviews. You can find them on X.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: He's an American nimbnut I’m with @Diehardfan on this one. Even though he wants us to kowtow to Putin.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: @Diehardfan wants the U.S to be a puppet state of Russia Nah, WGB did me a solid there and proved that BS is out the window
March 2, 2025Mar 2 6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Uh o....the midget is angry and ranting again 🤣 You posts already exonerated me of that. Thanks, elf on the shelf! You've made 30 completely unhinged posts in this thread since like 10am but yeah, I'm the angry one ranting.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: He did in multiple interviews. You can find them on X. Share them. Zelensky never said he was going there to sign anything. He said there was a framework in place but that he needed security guarantees. He's been consistent on this. And for some reason we keep forgetting that the US is supposed to be providing security guarantees jointly with Russia under the agreement we made with them in 1991 when they surrendered their nuclear arsenal to Russia.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Nah, WGB did me a solid there and proved that BS is out the window Oh you mean back when you "believed the media BS" and "before new facts came out." If you're wondering why everyone is pointing and laughing at you again, it's because you're a walking punchline. SNL couldn't write a more ridiculous character.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: @Diehardfan wants the U.S to be a puppet state of Russia We already are Dave
March 2, 2025Mar 2 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I’m with @Diehardfan on this one. Even though he wants us to kowtow to Putin. You just can't stay off the tip touch
March 2, 2025Mar 2 6 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said: Funniest post of the year! You should get a Medal of Honor fella. That’s the problem these days.. people can’t deal if facts don’t match up with their fake news. ok fine, you and I can end our discussion here… but just so you know, I’m American just like you.🥳 @Diehardfan See, there ya go
March 2, 2025Mar 2 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Oh you mean back when you "believed the media BS" and "before new facts came out." If you're wondering why everyone is pointing and laughing at you again, it's because you're a walking punchline. SNL couldn't write a more ridiculous character. As opposed to your daily life when people point and laugh and say there is the elf on the shelf? I was proud of Ukraine for stopping them after 2 weeks of war and liked Z before I knew much about him. Biden was still an idiot. That held solid.
March 2, 2025Mar 2 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: @Diehardfan See, there ya go Expats other than you can F off
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