6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

He was taken before 19. 

Take him at 15 then😉

24 minutes ago, SB52 said:

He’s a productive 4th WR. I don’t know what is so difficult for so many to understand. Plus, he’s supposedly tremendous in the lockerroom. Plus, the coach specifically wanted him, which mean Sirianni has a voice in the room. These are all good things.

Our #1 should be a #2.  Our #2 should be a #3.  Our #3, you are calling a productive 4th wr.

Thats why people are frustrated.

24 minutes ago, greend said:

What makes you say that? I think he holds up well at the line

Let me rephrase.

I don't think hes 14 mil good at it.

 

12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Not NTs. Big heavy guys are hard to move even when they're older.  Not like you're asking them to be athletic and rush the passer.

But in a way, you are.  Control the LOS and push it back making the pocket small. If the push gets you a shot at the QB, be athletic enough to get to the QB. In a hybrid, a Williams is single teamed and can use his athleticism.  I am thinking they want a Wilfork.  That allows them to play a mix of 3/4 and 4/3 with some 4i mixed in. Signing Reddick kind of fits with that as did drafting Milton Williams.  Reddick plays some SAM in the 4/3 and a lot of 3/4 OLB in that D.  Williams plays DT in 4/3 and 4i but also some 3/4 DE.    .  Hargrave and Cox do some rotations at NT sort of like the Haynesworth and Wilfork pairing.   I could be way off base, but that is kind of the feel I got from Gannon.  I think he wants the pieces to mix and match his D, kind of like Zimmer did with his blitzes when Gannon was with him.  So we end up with a more varied D than we had with Schwartz.  I hope we get him the Ss and LBs he needs to play some of the Sabin/Belichek Cover 1. 

39 minutes ago, Utebird said:

He didn't take that much less money.

He's making 14 mil this year, that's a lot for a part time NT that isn't a very good NT.

You sure he's really making 14 million?

45 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Guess Ridder isn’t happening 

PointsBet has Desmond Ridder 15:1 as FIRST QB SELECTED.

Have the Falcons owner, coach, GM, QB coach gone to all QB Pro Days?

38 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

I wonder if Howie is making a conscious choice to not do the scouting.  Maybe they have Weidl and the scouting staff doing most of the pro days.  

42 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Eh, we don’t attend every pro day of everyone we draft. There’s no chance none of these CIN players are on our radar. 

Other than one on one workouts, which can be scheduled on other days, the value of scripted pro days with the biases associated with them is minimal. Rams got that right. Interviews on Zoom, at the Combine, 30 and local visits and relying on the scouts is probably the right approach.  Spend the time watching coaches tape rather than in the air.  Smokescreen at quick jaunts.  What is Sauce going to show that isn’t better demonstrated on game film, for example?

50 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Guess Ridder isn’t happening 

 

 

People here will still use mental gymnastics to keep their delusions of drafting a QB alive. 

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

People here will still use mental gymnastics to keep their delusions of drafting a QB alive. 

You ever consider that so many are desperate to upgrade QB for a good reason? 

Serious question: do QB prospect pro days really mean anything?  A bunch of scripted throws in shorts and more biased measurements...wow great stuff.

I'm having a hard time remembering the last time we heard "oh man that QB had a really bad pro day, definitely dropped him down the board". 

Maybe I'm missing something, just seems silly to me. 

Just now, DEagle7 said:

Serious question: do QB prospect pro days really mean anything?  A bunch of scripted throws in shorts and more biased measurements...wow great stuff.

I'm having a hard time remembering the last time we heard "oh man that QB had a really bad pro day, definitely dropped him down the board". 

Maybe I'm missing something, just seems silly to me. 

I'd guess if you polled the teams, it means nothing from the throwing standpoint.  The benefit may come from seeing them in their element and commanding the whole show.

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

1) Have you seen how many people push for WR's on this board. My 6 year old can read a field better but A TON of people want to spend resources and cap space on something that'll grow moss. 

2) WE ACTUALLY NEED TO IMPROVE THE QB. Thats like always talking about getting a new roof when you have puddles in your living room. 

The roof store is out of roofs, and the tarp you're using now is about as good as any you can get locally.

If AJ Brown is actually available, we should be knocking the door down. He'd be the perfect fit in our WR core and is available this year (4M). We'd have to extend him, but if we could extend Calvin Ridley we can obviously afford Brown.

3 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

I'd guess if you polled the teams, it means nothing from the throwing standpoint.  The benefit may come from seeing them in their element and commanding the whole show.

So it's a swag test, meh. 

6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Serious question: do QB prospect pro days really mean anything?  A bunch of scripted throws in shorts and more biased measurements...wow great stuff.

I'm having a hard time remembering the last time we heard "oh man that QB had a really bad pro day, definitely dropped him down the board". 

Maybe I'm missing something, just seems silly to me. 

idk this one isn't all that inspiring to me

 

  # BOOM

4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

 

I dont think I can get another roof this year, but I can get a much bigger and better tarp for the time being to save some of my house

And what when we have a high draft pick next year and real QBs are available? What was the point in Drafting Desmond Ridder or Malik Willis when we're just gonna Josh Rosen them after 12 months?

There's no real benefit to rolling the dice on a QB this year. They won't make 2022 better, probably unlikely in making 2023 better, but what they could do is delay our chance of bringing in a better QB later. Hurts gives us the luxury of pulling the rip cord at any moment we need to.

14 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

People here will still use mental gymnastics to keep their delusions of drafting a QB alive. 

Just like the ones that still use mental gymnastics and think Hurts can make all the throws and his only weakness is youth.

Well I'm not sure about the rest of you but if I have puddles in my house I'm definitely replacing the roof 

2 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

And what when we have a high draft pick next year and real QBs are available? What was the point in Drafting Desmond Ridder or Malik Willis when we're just gonna Josh Rosen them after 12 months?

There's not real benefit to rolling the dice on a QB this year. They won't make 2022 better, probably unlikely in making 2023 better, but what they could do is delay our chance of bringing in a better QB later. Hurts gives us the luxury of pulling the rip cord at any moment we need to.

The only scenario that makes sense where we draft a QB, is to jettison Hurts and let Minshew play the year while the rookie red shirts. Otherwise, it'd be Lowie-esque to carry all 3. 

1 minute ago, greend said:

Well I'm not sure about the rest of you but if I have puddles in my house I'm definitely replacing the roof 

What about the puddles from your piss bucket? 

5 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

And what when we have a high draft pick next year and real QBs are available? What was the point in Drafting Desmond Ridder or Malik Willis when we're just gonna Josh Rosen them after 12 months?

There's no real benefit to rolling the dice on a QB this year. They won't make 2022 better, probably unlikely in making 2023 better, but what they could do is delay our chance of bringing in a better QB later. Hurts gives us the luxury of pulling the rip cord at any moment we need to.

And what when we have pick #14 and no real QB's are available and Falcons, Seattle, Giants etc are picking before us and need a QB too?

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

The only scenario that makes sense where we draft a QB, is to jettison Hurts and let Minshew play the year while the rookie red shirts. Otherwise, it'd be Lowie-esque to carry all 3. 

What about the puddles from your piss bucket? 

That's the maid's problem

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

And what when we have pick #14 and no real QB's are available and Falcons, Seattle, Giants etc are picking before us and need a QB too?

The 2022 Eagles schedule does not look difficult at this point.  Only 5 of the 17 games are against teams who made the playoffs last season.  I will pencil the Eagles in at 8-9 wins again for 2022, which means -- like you said -- picking around 14-20.

There will be just as many teams next season looking for QB drafting ahead of the Eagles, and the QB class at this early stage looks about the same quality as this one.  If CJ Stroud and Bryce Young are the best of them?  No thanks.  Especially not trading up to the top 5.

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

If AJ Brown is actually available, we should be knocking the door down. He'd be the perfect fit in our WR core and is available this year (4M). We'd have to extend him, but if we could extend Calvin Ridley we can obviously afford Brown.

Can't see why the Titans trade him, unless they don't want to pay. I don't think this team is in a position to pay a WR that kind of money either.