1 hour ago, austinfan said:

So you wouldn't have taken Watson after he put up all of 7 points in his first PO game, and basically garbage stats in his 3rd PO game?

I don't take that TB game seriously, Eagles weren't ready for a top defense in a PO game, and it was a lot more than Hurts, the failure was the entire offense.

But that's why experience matters - we'll see what happens this year.

First line, false equivalency.

Second line, we know.  Running QBs never are ready for a top defense.  

Third line... guess we pulled the plug on Clayton Thorson too soon.  Never got a chance to get that experience.  

26 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Yes, the offense struggled.  Part of the reason was that the top two Gs were gone early in the season.  Part of this doesn’t just go to the QB play.  The Goedert’s foot interception.  Eagles had more TDs called back for illegal screens than I have seen in a lifetime of watching the NFL.  Another washout season by both Reagor and JJAW.   What fault lies with the coaches for misidentification of which routes would be open?  And yes, Hurts inability to process the field and trust what was developing before it developed and his tendency to bolt.  

But I still believe that the Eagles D helped contribute to the calling of so many runs to keep it off the field.  Tampa game?  Brady toyed with them. I think part of this was Gannon learning as a DC and part was the talent.  No coincidence that Nelson is still on the street this late in free agency two years in a row.  

There were a lot of penalties for illegal man downfield as well as the start of the year. Do you remember why? Because we were running RPOs, and instead of throwing immediately as you’re supposed to do when you identify pass, hurts would hold onto the ball and the linemen would drift downfield. It was insanely frustrating and had to be removed from the playbook 

1 hour ago, Wentz_Era said:

Nola is Hamels 2.0 essentially. Can be incredibly dominant but prone to the long ball and will have funks. 

I wish he were as consistent as Hamels.  He's not.  He's a much poorer version of Hamels.

17 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

What did Schefter do?  

When he first tweeted the news that he passed he said it as "the 24 year old former Ohio State Buckeye standout who has struggled to catch on with Washington and Pittsburgh has passed away.”

A lot of NFL players are ripping him on Twitter. 

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

When he first tweeted the news that he passed he said it as "the 24 year old former Ohio State Buckeye standout who has struggled to catch on with Washington and Pittsburgh has passed away.”

A lot of NFL players are ripping him on Twitter. 

Did he delete?

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Lets ignore how the defense was giving up 80%+  completion percentage in those games.  

Good idea. Hurts was horrendous in those games.  He does not even have average abilities when it pertains to the QB position. Except for running bc he’s really a RB.  Can’t throw hard or long, can’t throw on time, can’t go through progressions, can’t read a defense, and sees ghosts behind arguably the best OL since the SB and possibly the best in the NFL last season.  

4 minutes ago, uncphillyfan said:

Did he delete?

Yea. I posted it two or so pages back before he deleted it 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That explains why the offense scored 19 points on average in those games? So because the defense was bad, the offense just gets overlooked and is excused by you?

 this all explain why the offense without garbage time td against Dallas down 41-14, a garbage td against the chiefs with 11 seconds down 19, a garbage time td down 19 points with 3 mins left vs. the raiders and scoring 15 points down 31-0 with 12 mins left in a game that was over managed to average 13 points in those games? So the 19 points they averaged was more of a mirage. So the offense because the defense was bad apparently means we just ignore the ineptitude of the offense in most of those games. 

We can say the defense was bad which I’m not gonna disagree with. However their offense was not good either. If you think 19 ppg against playoff teams with the garbage time scores is good then you are delusional. 

 

Did you have some delusions of contention last year or something with this team?  It was a bad team going into 2021 and the offense was better last year than it was in 2020.  

9 minutes ago, uncphillyfan said:

Did he delete?

he edited it. people are way over-reacting to it.

6 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Good idea. Hurts was horrendous in those games.  He does not even have average abilities when it pertains to the QB position. Except for running bc he’s really a RB.  Can’t throw hard or long, can’t throw on time, can’t go through progressions, can’t read a defense, and sees ghosts behind arguably the best OL since the SB and possibly the best in the NFL last season.  

Yeah, I’m starting to come around to the belief that the Eagles are out of the Pickett and Willis business in the top 10, but still in the Corral and Howell business from 15 onward.

7 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Good idea. Hurts was horrendous in those games.  He does not even have average abilities when it pertains to the QB position. Except for running bc he’s really a RB.  Can’t throw hard or long, can’t throw on time, can’t go through progressions, can’t read a defense, and sees ghosts behind arguably the best OL since the SB and possibly the best in the NFL last season.  

 

Hurts was horrendous in the Chiefs game?  

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Yeah, I’m starting to come around to the belief that the Eagles are out of the Pickett and Willis business in the top 10, but still in the Corral and Howell business from 15 onward.

 

I wonder where the delusions will shift after the draft?  Probably to Minshew.  

What new fad are the Huggers going to latch onto when he's gone?

Gil Brandt said "hold my beer”

 

2 minutes ago, Swoop said:

What new fad are the Huggers going to latch onto when he's gone?

Nitpicking the new QB as some sort of defense of Hurts. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Gil Brandt said "hold my beer”

 

Gil Brandt sounds like he hit the Saturday morning sauce today!

4 minutes ago, Swoop said:

What new fad are the Huggers going to latch onto when he's gone?

I just hope whoever it is that replaces him doesn’t start right away. I want to obnoxiously hammer the ish out of "basically a rookie” for two years.

9 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Hurts was horrendous in the Chiefs game?  

You bring up a good point. He wasn’t necessarily "horrendous” in that 1 game in week 5 against the worst pass defense in the league up to that point. Our defense was atrocious.  It should scare you that 2 of his best games of the entire season were week 1 and week 5. He was good against Denver and NO and he was God awful in almost every other game. He was at his worst as the season progressed. He’s not the answer. It’s obvious. 

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Gil Brandt said "hold my beer”

 

I don’t think Gil’s gonna be on the radio again anytime soon.

 

35 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Did you have some delusions of contention last year or something with this team?  It was a bad team going into 2021 and the offense was better last year than it was in 2020.  

Nice deflection on some narrative you want to run with. The offense got better as the season went along similarly to the defense when they began playing inferior opponents. That’s my point.  Yes the defense sucks. The offense wasn’t much better vs playoff teams than the defense. really challenging concept that the defense and the offense against playoff teams both sucked and had the majority of their success against inferior opponents (yes the eagles offense was good against the chiefs meanwhile so was the eagles defense against the niners as the eagles offense continued to shoot themselves in the foot and be inept most of the game. Each had moments against playoff teams but as a whole weren’t very good). 

So once again apparently 19ppg (with a bunch of garbage time points) in those 6 games against playoff teams is now good offense and it was only the defense in those games…. 

8 minutes ago, hputenis said:

You bring up a good point. He wasn’t necessarily "horrendous” in that 1 game in week 5 against the worst pass defense in the league up to that point. Our defense was atrocious.  It should scare you that 2 of his best games of the entire season were week 1 and week 5. He was good against Denver and NO and he was God awful in almost every other game. He was at his worst as the season progressed. He’s not the answer. It’s obvious. 

The Eagles offense in that Saints game was good but so was their defense for the first 3 quarters of that game. They picked off Trevor Simeon twice in the first half. One interception went for a touchdown. The other gave the eagles offense a short field and only needing to go 39 yards to score a td. They also recovered a fumble at the 41 of New Orleans that led to an eagles field goal. The defense was as good as the offense in that game the first 3 quarters. They played complimentary football which made both look immensely better than what they are. 

21 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I don’t think Gil’s gonna be on the radio again anytime soon.

Sounds like he needs to hit an AA meeting

20 minutes ago, hputenis said:

You bring up a good point. He wasn’t necessarily "horrendous” in that 1 game in week 5 against the worst pass defense in the league up to that point. Our defense was atrocious.  It should scare you that 2 of his best games of the entire season were week 1 and week 5. He was good against Denver and NO and he was God awful in almost every other game. He was at his worst as the season progressed. He’s not the answer. It’s obvious. 

 

Some of you people are just so over the top dramatic.  "god awful" in every other game except 4 games.  This blog is like a written version of sports talk radio callers.  

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Nice deflection on some BS narrative you want to run with. The offense got better as the season went along similarly to the defense when they began playing inferior opponents. That’s my point.  Yes the defense sucks. The offense wasn’t much better vs playoff teams. really challenging concept that the defense and the offense against playoff teams both sucked and had success against inferior opponents (yes the eagles offense was good agains they chiefs meanwhile so was the eagles defense against the niners as the eagles offense continued to shoot themselves in the foot and be inept most of the game). 

So once again  apparently 19ppg (with a bunch of garbage time points) in those 6 games against playoff teams is now good and it was only the defense in those games…. 

All the playoff teams were front loaded in the schedule, new HC, new scheme, rookie WR, shuffled OL (Lane was out a few games).

So that's kind of a meaningless stat. Sirianni was experimenting at the beginning of the season, trying to figure out how to use Hurts, what his players could do, etc.

Eagles were 10th in weighted DVOA on offense, which both accounts for strength of opponent and improvement over the season. That ain't bad.

I'll let all the "experts" around here (what NFL team do you advise?) pontificate, I'll wait until September and see how this offense looks.

I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Siriannia and Hurts, and see what they do, but I do think Howie has to give them more weapons, not necessarily elite players, but solid depth that will allow them to do more things (like a young power back and a possession WR and/or H-back)

Leave Jalen alone! Leave him alone!