5 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

This is an interesting mock from Mike Tanier. Very different from other mocks I've seen, but not sure of the double dip at WR when other positions are more of a need

Philadelphia Eagles

15. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
18. Tyler Linderbaum, Center, Iowa
51. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington
83. Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati
101. Nick Cross, S, Maryland

The Eagles were never going to pick three times in the first round. Last week's trade with the Saints gave them just what they wanted: plenty of extra future assets (a 2023 first-rounder and 2024 second-rounder) without sacrificing the ability to upgrade the roster this year.

Williams adds to the Alabama class reunion on offense. Linderbaum was the BAA in this mock and serves as an eventual Jason Kelce replacement and a mock draft placeholder: the Eagles are much more likely to use one of their first-rounders on a falling Derek Stingley, Jordan Davis or, heck, Kayvon Thibodeaux. (The Ravens are also in the center market but generally prefer bigger linemen.)

Gordon is a toolsy gamble-and-guess cornerback who loves to hit. Eagles fans will either love him when he blows up a screen or hate him when he falls for a double-move and commits flagrant pass interference 30 yards downfield. Pierce excels at going up and getting deep sideline shots; insert your own Jalen Reagor slander here. Cross is a raw, ultra-athletic, all-purpose safety.

Howie Roseman is as suspicious of the Eagles 2021 success as anyone. That's why he's improving the roster with his left hand while making sure he has a robust Plan B with his right.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2022/three-round-mock-aidan-hutchinson-jojo-domann

that looks really bad. 

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

As the appointed EMB racist, the last time I was in Ontario, I saw so many black squirrels all over the parks.  Never knew there was such a thing.  Really neat to see.

Ive seen 1 near my house. Been about 2 years now. Seem pretty rare around these parts. 

7 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

This is an interesting mock from Mike Tanier. Very different from other mocks I've seen, but not sure of the double dip at WR when other positions are more of a need

Philadelphia Eagles

15. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
18. Tyler Linderbaum, Center, Iowa
51. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington
83. Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati
101. Nick Cross, S, Maryland

The Eagles were never going to pick three times in the first round. Last week's trade with the Saints gave them just what they wanted: plenty of extra future assets (a 2023 first-rounder and 2024 second-rounder) without sacrificing the ability to upgrade the roster this year.

Williams adds to the Alabama class reunion on offense. Linderbaum was the BAA in this mock and serves as an eventual Jason Kelce replacement and a mock draft placeholder: the Eagles are much more likely to use one of their first-rounders on a falling Derek Stingley, Jordan Davis or, heck, Kayvon Thibodeaux. (The Ravens are also in the center market but generally prefer bigger linemen.)

Gordon is a toolsy gamble-and-guess cornerback who loves to hit. Eagles fans will either love him when he blows up a screen or hate him when he falls for a double-move and commits flagrant pass interference 30 yards downfield. Pierce excels at going up and getting deep sideline shots; insert your own Jalen Reagor slander here. Cross is a raw, ultra-athletic, all-purpose safety.

Howie Roseman is as suspicious of the Eagles 2021 success as anyone. That's why he's improving the roster with his left hand while making sure he has a robust Plan B with his right.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2022/three-round-mock-aidan-hutchinson-jojo-domann

That is horrendous. He wasted a 1st on a guy who wouldn't see the field for at least a year, then wasted the 83rd pick on a 2nd WR, and fails to address the DL with 5 picks.

 

10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

As the appointed EMB racist, the last time I was in Ontario, I saw so many black squirrels all over the parks.  Never knew there was such a thing.  Really neat to see.

Were you furious they weren't grey squirrels?

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Were you furious they weren't grey squirrels?

I left Canada immediately and vowed to never go back.

5 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

That is horrendous. He wasted a 1st on a guy who wouldn't see the field for at least a year, then wasted the 83rd pick on a 2nd WR, and fails to address the DL with 5 picks.

Williams will certainly play this year unless someone botched his surgery.  But there's still a bit of bustability with him. 

A lot of bustability with linderbaum.

And also some for Gordon as well.

Don't like leading off with 3 bust potential players.  I'd be ok with choosing 1 of them. 

First great pick is Pierce at 83.

And who knows what Nick Cross will become.  We don't do well with mid round safeties. 

5 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

That is horrendous. He wasted a 1st on a guy who wouldn't see the field for at least a year, then wasted the 83rd pick on a 2nd WR, and fails to address the DL with 5 picks.

It made a change from some of the other mocks I've seen; especially Lindebaum who has disappeared. 

The other parts of the mock had the Bungles taking a punter at 95. Which was surprising in the least

 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Williams will certainly play this year unless someone botched his surgery.  But there's still a bit of bustability with him. 

A lot of bustability with linderbaum.

And also some for Gordon as well.

Don't like leading off with 3 bust potential players.  I'd be ok with choosing 1 of them. 

First great pick is Pierce at 83.

And who knows what Nick Cross will become.  We don't do well with mid round safeties. 

That's interesting....everything that I have heard from former GMs and draft folks on him is that he's the safest bet in the draft. What makes you think he's a distinct bust possibility?

31 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Injured guy>not injured guy

makes sense

A telling point, indeed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I love Ojabo but I'd take Davis over him even if he were healthy. Davis is a transformative defensive player.

1 minute ago, twistr said:

That's interesting....everything that I have heard from former GMs and draft folks on him is that he's the safest bet in the draft. What makes you think he's a distinct bust possibility?

Not speaking for @HazletonEagle here but the short answer is size.

2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Not speaking for @HazletonEagle here but the short answer is size.

not just the size, but the arm length on top of it is a bad combo.

3 minutes ago, twistr said:

That's interesting....everything that I have heard from former GMs and draft folks on him is that he's the safest bet in the draft. What makes you think he's a distinct bust possibility?

I've heard some people with serious concerns about his lack of size. I don't think some people realize how much an exception Kelce is. Most centers around his size aren't that good, let alone a potential HOF'er.

1 hour ago, The Blackfish said:

 Did they franchise tag Robinson?  If not Doug may go OT. 

Yes, they did.

55 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Give me Jordan Davis at 15, try and trade back again 18 & take Andrew Booth. Or take Jameson Williams/Garrett Wilson at 18. Probably my ideal 1st round right now

Davis/Booth would be a big R1 win in my book.

41 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I’d rather take Ojabo at 15 than Jordan Davis 

Good thing you're not a GM. If they took Ojabo at 15 or 18 with Davis sitting on the board, I'd have a meltdown...and rightfully so. You're talking about a guy with admittedly good measurables, coming off a torn achilles NOT ACL, who has 1 season of good production playing across from the potential #1 pick in the draft versus a potential defensive "build around" player in Davis. Davis is a no brainer at 15, and would be a colossal blunder if you passed on him twice.

24 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

This is an interesting mock from Mike Tanier. Very different from other mocks I've seen, but not sure of the double dip at WR when other positions are more of a need

Philadelphia Eagles

15. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
18. Tyler Linderbaum, Center, Iowa
51. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington
83. Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati
101. Nick Cross, S, Maryland

The Eagles were never going to pick three times in the first round. Last week's trade with the Saints gave them just what they wanted: plenty of extra future assets (a 2023 first-rounder and 2024 second-rounder) without sacrificing the ability to upgrade the roster this year.

Williams adds to the Alabama class reunion on offense. Linderbaum was the BAA in this mock and serves as an eventual Jason Kelce replacement and a mock draft placeholder: the Eagles are much more likely to use one of their first-rounders on a falling Derek Stingley, Jordan Davis or, heck, Kayvon Thibodeaux. (The Ravens are also in the center market but generally prefer bigger linemen.)

Gordon is a toolsy gamble-and-guess cornerback who loves to hit. Eagles fans will either love him when he blows up a screen or hate him when he falls for a double-move and commits flagrant pass interference 30 yards downfield. Pierce excels at going up and getting deep sideline shots; insert your own Jalen Reagor slander here. Cross is a raw, ultra-athletic, all-purpose safety.

Howie Roseman is as suspicious of the Eagles 2021 success as anyone. That's why he's improving the roster with his left hand while making sure he has a robust Plan B with his right.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2022/three-round-mock-aidan-hutchinson-jojo-domann

Love R2/3, R1 is an atrocity.

16 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Ideally I go Davis/Booth R1 and trade up for Ebiketie to the top of R2.

11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Williams will certainly play this year unless someone botched his surgery.  But there's still a bit of bustability with him. 

A lot of bustability with linderbaum.

And also some for Gordon as well.

Don't like leading off with 3 bust potential players.  I'd be ok with choosing 1 of them. 

First great pick is Pierce at 83.

And who knows what Nick Cross will become.  We don't do well with mid round safeties. 

Nick Cross has every measurable you could ask for, and would be an intimidator over the deep middle.

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

PUNT GODDDDDDDDDDDD

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

not just the size, but the arm length on top of it. 

Arm length is the biggest issue IMO. His size isn’t great for all types of offenses, but those T-Rex arms are a huge problem. 

11 minutes ago, twistr said:

That's interesting....everything that I have heard from former GMs and draft folks on him is that he's the safest bet in the draft. What makes you think he's a distinct bust possibility?

He has T-Rex arms

7 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I've heard some people with serious concerns about his lack of size. I don't think some people realize how much an exception Kelce is. Most centers around his size aren't that good, let alone a potential HOF'er.

Even Kelce admitted a lot of his success is due to scheme and he wouldn't be able to play on every team in the NFL

I see no point in picking Linderbaum. I feel like it's just asking to be disappointed when you're trying to basically clone your not prototypically sized, HoF Center with someone of similar metrics in college. I'd rather take a C later or try Dickerson out who has already proven that he can at least succeed at the NFL level.

16 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Ebner is a heck of a receiving back and real good STs player .

2 minutes ago, bitbased said:

I see no point in picking Linderbaum. I feel like it's just asking to be disappointed when you're trying to basically clone your not prototypically sized, HoF Center with someone of similar metrics in college. I'd rather take a C later or try Dickerson out who is already proven that he can at least succeed at the NFL level.

I couldn't agree more. First off, there is nowhere for him to play this year since he is too small to play guard. Second, even IF Kelce retires after 2022 they can move Seumalo or Dickerson to center and Driscoll can play G, or they can just sign or draft a C/G next year. Hell, they could probably get a decent C/G prospect in the 4th or 5th round in this year's draft. Linderbaum is one pick that would have me furious on draft night.

5 minutes ago, bitbased said:

I see no point in picking Linderbaum. I feel like it's just asking to be disappointed when you're trying to basically clone your not prototypically sized, HoF Center with someone of similar metrics in college. I'd rather take a C later or try Dickerson out who has already proven that he can at least succeed at the NFL level.

If I'm the Eagles, I'm keeping Dickerson next to Mailata for the next decade.  They'll find a center.

Simms says that no way Thibodeaux goes top 20. Geez.

12 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Yes, they did.

Davis/Booth would be a big R1 win in my book.

Good thing you're not a GM. If they took Ojabo at 15 or 18 with Davis sitting on the board, I'd have a meltdown...and rightfully so. You're talking about a guy with admittedly good measurables, coming off a torn achilles NOT ACL, who has 1 season of good production playing across from the potential #1 pick in the draft versus a potential defensive "build around" player in Davis. Davis is a no brainer at 15, and would be a colossal blunder if you passed on him twice.

Love R2/3, R1 is an atrocity.

Ideally I go Davis/Booth R1 and trade up for Ebiketie to the top of R2.

Nick Cross has every measurable you could ask for, and would be an intimidator over the deep middle.

PUNT GODDDDDDDDDDDD

What makes Davis a no brainer at 15. He’s a run stuffing DT in a passing league, which can be found in free agency without using valuable first round picks on.

 

‘There are like 3 difference-making DTs in the entire NFL and all the other "good” DTs are pretty much in the same class. They aren’t liabilities, but they don’t dominate either. What are the odds you’re going to get one of those rare guys who wreck crap like Aaron Donald?

The Eagles have poured countless resources into DT over the last decade and they haven’t had a dominant pass rush since the Reid days. I wonder why that is.

Athletic likes what Howie is doing with contracts:

The Eagles continue to put void years in contracts to push salary cap charges to future years. The idea is that the cap is going to continue to increase, so they can benefit by having more cap space and flexibility now.

"They look at it as the value of a dollar in two or three years with the way the salary cap’s increasing is less valuable than having that money now,” Fitzgerald said. "So it’s like, ‘Let’s have that money right now, and in the future we’ll defer some of that dead money.’

"They’ve also gotten incredibly creative with these structures on these deals to where, especially with the veteran players, they are building into these contracts, they pro-rate a ton of money on them. They’re building into the contracts the ability to June 1 (cut) players rather than have their contracts void. So that lets them defer it out even further into the future. So normally with a player like Cox, his contract would’ve been something where all the dead money would’ve hit this year if they had cut him. They restructured that deal last year in a way so they could take those charges in 2022 and 2023 if they cut him. So it’s real creative. It’s different than things any other team is doing. There’s no other team in the league really doing this right now.”

Fitzgerald said he’s impressed with the other ways the Eagles’ front office has tried to gain tiny edges with the deals they negotiate.

"Last year they started putting these option bonuses into contracts,” Fitzgerald said. "It’s not traditional options. Option bonuses are typically due in March. They’re doing them so they’re due in August. So basically it gives them six months to trade a player. And you can trade off that bonus to another team. They’re using other mechanisms that let you pro-rate a bunch of money. And they pay it as a salary advance. That pro-rates, but again they can trade those players if things go sideways right away, and they’ll trade that pro-rated money away with the contract, which you wouldn’t do if you used the traditional signing bonus.

"They’re incredibly smart. They really look to exploit any and every possible edge, and they do a great job of that.”

44 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

This is an interesting mock from Mike Tanier. Very different from other mocks I've seen, but not sure of the double dip at WR when other positions are more of a need

Philadelphia Eagles

15. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
18. Tyler Linderbaum, Center, Iowa
51. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington
83. Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati
101. Nick Cross, S, Maryland

The Eagles were never going to pick three times in the first round. Last week's trade with the Saints gave them just what they wanted: plenty of extra future assets (a 2023 first-rounder and 2024 second-rounder) without sacrificing the ability to upgrade the roster this year.

Williams adds to the Alabama class reunion on offense. Linderbaum was the BAA in this mock and serves as an eventual Jason Kelce replacement and a mock draft placeholder: the Eagles are much more likely to use one of their first-rounders on a falling Derek Stingley, Jordan Davis or, heck, Kayvon Thibodeaux. (The Ravens are also in the center market but generally prefer bigger linemen.)

Gordon is a toolsy gamble-and-guess cornerback who loves to hit. Eagles fans will either love him when he blows up a screen or hate him when he falls for a double-move and commits flagrant pass interference 30 yards downfield. Pierce excels at going up and getting deep sideline shots; insert your own Jalen Reagor slander here. Cross is a raw, ultra-athletic, all-purpose safety.

Howie Roseman is as suspicious of the Eagles 2021 success as anyone. That's why he's improving the roster with his left hand while making sure he has a robust Plan B with his right.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2022/three-round-mock-aidan-hutchinson-jojo-domann

I really think Linderbaum is unlikely to be an Eagles' pick. It would be like drafting Dillard all over again given his lack of versatility.   I'd be OK with the other picks.