27 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Bad

Wrong

47 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Without a subscription we can't see this as it's gated

Has trading up to 12 for Olave and Wyatt at 18. Bo said he wouldn’t like the Wyatt pick, but that is the mock draft, not the guys he wants them to take.

28 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Mock drafts with trades in them are such bull ish.   

Yeah, cause there is never any trades during the draft

 

You guys all suck at this

22 minutes ago, bitbased said:

I don't mind them. Mock draft where there's zero trades are never going to be accurate anyway, especially with the craziness of this one there's bound to be trades. Two teams with two Top 10 picks, six teams with two first round picks and no real consensus top QB picks.

Theres a virtual 0% chance a mock drafts with trades will be accurate, so whats the point?

If you just want to engage in some fan fic great, but its like cheating and changing the rules of the game

3 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

The best thing that can happen for us this draft is for the Lions to take a QB at #2 and cause an early run on them.

This is a possibility. Lions could select a QB. 

Jared Goff is under contract for 3 more years.

His cap hit for 2022 is $41mil.

But in 2023 and 2024 the cap hit is $10mil and $5mil. Per Spotrac.

There could be a run on QBs. Lots of teams need one and are in position to trade up.

#6 CAR, #8 ATL, #9 SEA need QBs. WAS could take one. NO, PHI, and PIT could trade up.

So, maybe Howie gets in the mix and trades up.

Or, we benefit from the QBs being selected early and some talent dropping.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You guys all suck at this

 

1 hour between posts.  Just long enough for you to draft for every team, ensuring you get the players you want  

 

9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Guys we get it, mock drafts aren't really accurate. Analysts do them to get clicks and fans read/do them to feel involved in the process and kill time. 

Let people enjoy things. 

You can enjoy them and Ill say they suck

If you want to impress people with your mock draft stick to the current draft order, otherwise you're just playing with your GI Joes in fantasy land

Show me a single mock draft in history that accurately predicted a trade

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

You guys all suck at this

That’ll be the day they go two DBs in round 1

18 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  But mock drafts are BS to begin with.  I'd like for us to trade one of our 1sts down and accumulate more picks in the top 100.  

I get it but that's not necessarily the point of an analyst creating a mock draft

If youre just talking about fans playing games, sure.  Id prefer that fans keep that to themselves but whatever

 

There has to be rules or there is mock draft chaos, and all of society will break down

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Yeah, cause there is never any trades during the draft

Totally agreed, great point

I think we are fooling ourselves buying into mocks by internet draft pundits and reporters on who the Eagles are favoring and what position. Other than LT and K, what position can’t use an upgrade or youth infusion?  Do we really want to project who Gannon wants by the myriad of trades for DBs, McPhearson, a bunch of Day 3 picks last year or even Williams, Reddick and White and who the Eagles brought back?  I am not willing to use Top 30 visits as a true barometer either.  Too much subterfuge involved.  

Frankly, at this point, the only move in the draft that wouldn’t surprise me is one where Howie ties (and fails) to show that he is smarter than everyone else. 

Speaking of mock drafts, we just completed our yearly EMB mock draft.  We are assigned an AFC and NFC team, and then 10 days after the new league year starts, we draft, make trades, etc.

I do not think Howie Roseman will do near as good a job as @eaglesfan0075

 

Like this one better. Would be very happy. 

20 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Nah

You know far more about orthopedic injuries than I do.  I remember when we first drafted Sidney Jones.  I was lukewarm because I thought he'd be a nice target in the 3rd...thought 2 was a little early.  But I still got on board and was excited to see what the first round talent could do after his recovery.  I spoke with one of my buddies who is an ortho for an NFL team.  He instantly bashed the pick on medical grounds.  He basically said you lose 1 year to recovery, then another year to re-gaining confidence on the football field, which will likely be a disappointment.  Then you've burned through half the rookie contract and have a 24 year old with a confidence problem and a monkey on his back because everyone is disappointed in him.  "I don't know what their team docs were thinking allowing the GM to draft him there."

That was about 1 day after we drafted Sidney Jones and was pretty damn prophetic.  Every player is different, but that definitely made me view achilles injuries in prospects differently than acls.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

1 hour between posts.  Just long enough for you to draft for every team, ensuring you get the players you want  

 

Oh?

 

Andrew Booth at 51 

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

You can enjoy them and Ill say they suck

If you want to impress people with your mock draft stick to the current draft order, otherwise you're just playing with your GI Joes in fantasy land

Show me a single mock draft in history that accurately predicted a trade

Show me a single NFL draft without a trade.

If you're really drawing a line in the sand for realism in your make-believe sports drafts for some reason, trades are a part of that equation.  That's just a fact.

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

They're the same height, almost the same weight, same lack of arm strength, Taylor still has his own website for self-promotion ....

If Rod Serling were still alive he'd be working on the episode as we speak ....

I guess Tua is the next Drew Brees because they are almost the same height, same weight, have a propensity of getting hurt early in their careers and one plays of the Dolphins, where the other almost played for them?

I mean that is just as sensible as Hurts and Taylor having the same career trajectory. 

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Show me a single NFL draft without a trade.

If you're really drawing a line in the sand for realism in your make-believe sports drafts for some reason, trades are a part of that equation.  That's just a fact.

Yes trades are part of the equation.  We all get that

But what the hell is the point of make believe trades?  It means nothing other than playing pretend GM.  Its little kid stuff, its like fantasy football and should be kept in TATE with the unwashed masses

Im looking down my nose at you

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Show me a single NFL draft without a trade.

If you're really drawing a line in the sand for realism in your make-believe sports drafts for some reason, trades are a part of that equation.  That's just a fact.

Murphy's Rule of Draft Trade Paranoia

If you wait in your draft position for the perfect player to drop in your lap as you have analyzed each teams needs/preferences ahead of you, then surely your most hated archrival's GM will trade up ahead of you to take your perfect player.

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

You guys all suck at this

  I think I did alright

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Yes trades are part of the equation.  We all get that

But what the hell is the point of make believe trades?  It means nothing other than playing pretend GM.  Its little kid stuff, its like fantasy football and should be kept in TATE with the unwashed masses

Im looking down my nose at you

Ah yes, as opposed to mature enlightened pass-times of making make-believe draft selections and posting on a sports blog. Excellent point. 

40 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

2015*	26	BUF	QB	5	14	14	7-6-0	242	380	63.7	3035	20	5.3	6	1.6	129	63	8.0	8.3	12.5	216.8	99.4	66.3	36	212	8.7	6.79	7.10	1	2	14	PB
2016	27	BUF	QB	5	15	15	7-8-0	269	436	61.7	3023	17	3.9	6	1.4	148	84	6.9	7.1	11.2	201.5	89.7	62.4	42	192	8.8	5.92	6.07	1	1	15
2017	28	BUF	QB	5	15	14	8-6-0	263	420	62.6	2799	14	3.3	4	1	133	47	6.7	6.9	10.6	186.6	89.2	56.4	46	256	9.9	5.46	5.67	1	2	12

 

 

2015*	26	BUF	QB	5	14	14	104	568	4	28	31	5.5	40.6	7.4	1	1	4	4.0	0	0	4	0.1	0.3	100.0%	4.0	105	5.4	572	4	9
2016	27	BUF	QB	5	15	15	95	580	6	34	49	6.1	38.7	6.3												95	6.1	580	6	4
2017	28	BUF	QB	5	15	14	84	427	4	28	32	5.1	28.5	5.6

 

These are Tyrod Taylor's numbers in his 3 seasons as Bills starting QB.  The top 3 rows are his passing stats, followed below by his rushing stats.  Team record of 22-20 over those 3 seasons.  His ceiling for passing yards, passing TDs and alternate Pro Bowl nod were all reached in his first season -- with very little or no development afterward over the following two seasons.  Note his rushing stats of 5.5 yards per carry in his first season, which averaged out to about the same over the 3 seasons in total.

Average of 17 passing TDs per season over the 3 seasons.  Didn't throw a lot of picks, but wasn't prolific either in yards or TDs.  Fumbled the football 9 times in his first season as starting QB.  Never developed accuracy as a passer -- actually dropped after his first full season.

 

Tyrod in his 5th year in the league at 26 years old in that first Buffalo year. 

And then you start talking about how Tyrod hit his ceiling in that first year.  Hurts improved from year one to year two in every area. 

"an eerily similar trajectory so far" has to be one of the absolute most nonsense posts made in this blog. 

The one thing I will say about mock drafts, with or without trades is that they give fans a chance to read up and learn about players that they never would have before. There are so many college players that it is impossible for a fan of college football to ever keep track of them all. Then there are those, like myself, who hate college football so the only time I learn about incoming players is during this time of the year and mock drafts give me a chance to learn about players in the draft.

I think they are a great way to waste a little time and to find out some information before your team starts drafting players.

10 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

I guess Tua is the next Drew Brees because they are almost the same height, same weight, have a propensity of getting hurt early in their careers and one plays of the Dolphins, where the other almost played for them?

I mean that is just as sensible as Hurts and Taylor having the same career trajectory. 

 

Hurts is Tyrod until he proves he's not.

At least here you get mocks from members where picks for the Eagles are (mostly) realistic. Most of the mock drafts done by professionals/blogs are so out of whack that they're not even worth looking at anyway.