9 minutes ago, justrelax said:

This will sound whacky but I am sincere: If I had had the #1 pick in this draft, I would have chosen Davis.

I would have taken Kenny Pickett.

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

@FranklinFldEBUpper

What do you think we end up doing at punter? Do we run Siposs out there again? 

I guess Sam Koch at 39 is getting a bit long in the tooth.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

I think the weight thing bothers me the most.

He doesn’t come off as lazy or unmotivated which makes me feel better about it. But if the reports are true of the amount of weight he lost from the championship game to the combine are true, that’s a significant swing. Those swings can go both ways.

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I agree but he could make enough TFLs combined with a few INTs that it's sufficient.  I don't think I would put money on it.  You have high profile defensive rookies in NY markets that are likely to  be frontrunners even if they don't have record breaking production.  My guess is Thibodeaux will be a run away candidate if he gets to double digit sacks.  

Or Sauce, is ROY voting handled like the probowl?

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Are you talking form a general perspective or eagles viewed perspective? Because if I was Jacksonville Or someone like Carolina I’m taking a tackle badly. Frankly i think Jacksonville is going to regret not taking a tackle. 

I wouldn't have had Travon Walker in my top 10.  That was a dumb Baalke pick, IMO.

10 minutes ago, downundermike said:

First one in gets the avatar bet.

Not only will Nakobe Dean not win DROY, he will not get a vote.

Last year Parsons won in a sweep, the previous years, no more than 4 players got a vote.

Loser gets the Avatar of my choice for a month, winner gets to choose my avatar for a month.

Who do you think will win, out of curiosity? 

6 minutes ago, justrelax said:

This will sound whacky but I am sincere: If I had had the #1 pick in this draft, I would have chosen Davis.

I can see the upside for Davis but I wouldn't have taken him over Stingley, Gardner, Thibodeaux or Hutchinson.  

Just now, Swoop said:

Who do you think will win, out of curiosity? 

Hamilton IMO. Kid is a stud.

11 minutes ago, justrelax said:

This will sound whacky but I am sincere: If I had had the #1 pick in this draft, I would have chosen Davis.

Not whacky if you believe in the upside.

I would have gone Hutchinson.  A more confident projection at a premium position.

That said, it's conceivable that Davis ends up with the better career.

12 minutes ago, downundermike said:

First one in gets the avatar bet.

Not only will Nakobe Dean not win DROY, he will not get a vote.

Last year Parsons won in a sweep, the previous years, no more than 4 players got a vote.

Loser gets the Avatar of my choice for a month, winner gets to choose my avatar for a month.

Is the bet that Dean doesn't even get one vote? 

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Is the bet that Dean doesn't even get one vote? 

Correct.

23 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

again, an average team doesnt go 11-2 nor do they finish in the top 10 of the national rankings. 

There's no point with you

5 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Who do you think will win, out of curiosity? 

Hamilton, Hutchinson and Sauce would be my top 3.

I think Jordan Davis could get a vote before Dean.

Just now, downundermike said:

Correct.

Meh, I'll be your huckleberry (though I don't think Dean will get a vote, at least it's fun to cheer for). 

1 minute ago, Godfather said:

There's no point with you

Sure there is, its all about the LOL's

7 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Eagles perspective, definitely. He will transform the defense, just as Vea did for the Bucs.

Good chance they don’t win the Super Bowl without him , best player on the D , him eating double and triple teams frees everyone else up .

their rookie DL Logan Hall will put up big numbers lining up next to Vea .

 

What are some other names we could possibly trade for a Safety?  We know Chuck Clark but would any of these guys be available and which would fit our system best?

Andre Cisco 
Budda Baker (probably not but maybe if that's the only way they can afford Kyler)
Khari Willis
Juan Thornhill
James Braderry (odds are he is released but do you think we could convert him to Safety as he's starting to lose a step)
Ashtyn Davis 

1 hour ago, justrelax said:

Thought I would dust off the 4i discussion in light of our draft and FA signings. Some thoughts on LBs and DBs too.

To refresh, the first goal of the 4i is to control the opponent's running game with four guys vs. the offense's five OL. The key player in this alignment is the NT, playing a 0-tech, i.e. head-up on the center. Gannon ran quite a bit of this last year but he did not have a true NT who could dominate the opposing center. He tried it with Cox and, as we know, Cox bridled at this. He didn't like having to face double-teams on every snap, which is understandable. In the screen shot above, Hargrave is the 0. He's a nice player but not one to dominate the C through sheer power. Nor did he require a double team. And, because he did not require a double team, there was always a guard with a free run to the MLB.

Well, we have that guy now. Davis requires the double team and, as a result, keeps the MLB clean. Anyone who watched the NCAA playoffs last January will remember Dean running free sideline to sideline, and in our one-and-done playoff, watching David run free because Vea kept him clean. 

My point here is that Davis not only is a better NT than anyone we have had but he makes the MLB a better player too.

Getting back to that four vs. five, the DTs shade into the B gaps and the NT has both A gap responsibilities. The MLB reads the OL at the snap and can fill the A gap or run free to the outside on any wide plays. With the monster at NT you can control the run with four guys.

That leaves you with seven defenders. The two OLBs threaten the edges and can either come or drop into coverage. Their alignment makes setting a hard edge easier and, when they do, that free-running MLB has a clear path to the RB. It also makes passes into the flats more difficult. We saw how the Bucs dominated out bread-and-butter outside zone doing this. Sweeps, stretch plays, outside zones and bubble screens are more difficult to block because the defenders are already there.

Because you can control the running game with four defenders you don't have to walk a safety up into the box and your CBs have less run support responsibilities. That makes those five DBs better players because they're required to do less. You can play with two high safeties, giving support to both sides of the field.

I recall saying , when we signed Reddick, that we were committing to this defense. He's going to be facing single blockers and OTs who are threatened on their inside shoulder by the DTs in the 4i. Tough duty for those OTs.

Thoughts on the DBs and LBs will be deferred to another post.

Astute, as always.  The moves at LB really explains what Gannon wants to do.  Reddick, both Johnsons, Dean, White. WIL that can cover,  MIKE that can cover and blitz.  SAM that can rush the passer.

I suspect with the Ss he has, he will play a lot of variations of Cover 2  Some Tampa 2, some tiered Cover 2, some high 2, mixed with some Cover 3 and some Cover 1.  Ss on the team are better at Downhill from the Zone than in Man.   May lead the league in zone again this year although we may see some more man than last year.  Ss will give some cushion but I think the challenge will be to shorten the cushion and tighten the zones for both the Ss, the LBs with more man from the corners, especially CB2.  Too much Cover 3 last year and Cover 4. (I hate Cover 4 with Slay and am not a big fan of the Cover 3 they used, especially when Singleton is the dropping LB from the box- at least that is cured this year).  The LBs were bad at playing the box zone last year.  Coupled with the Ss playing too high and Nelson’s cushion, that left a huge hole in the coverage to exploit.  

Howie and Lurie are right, they need to get to the QB.  Avery was a bust at SAM (he rushed a third of his snaps, wouldn’t have known it from the results) and Kerrigan a statue at DE.   Speaking of DE, I expect them to sign, trade for or claim one.  

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

Meh, I'll be your huckleberry (though I don't think Dean will get a vote, at least it's fun to cheer for). 

Just to clarify, Dean gets no votes, you have the avatar of my choice for a month.  Dean gets a vote, I have your avatar of choice for a month.

Agreed.

38 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Neither am I, but he is way better than Hurts.

I think he's slightly better. I think Muarry is slightly better then Lamar. All of them suck imo

Wonder if we keep 5 or 6 WRs. If 5, Ward may finally be gone. AJB, Smith, Watkins, Paschal are locks. Ward, Reagor, Hightower, Allen, and the UDFA guy (forget his name) all fighting for final spots.

1 minute ago, garingovt2000 said:

What are some other names we could possibly trade for a Safety?  We know Chuck Clark but would any of these guys be available and which would fit our system best?

Andre Cisco 
Budda Baker (probably not but maybe if that's the only way they can afford Kyler)
Khari Willis
Juan Thornhill
James Braderry (odds are he is released but do you think we could convert him to Safety as he's starting to lose a step)
Ashtyn Davis 

Budda Baker is an interesting one to consider. Wonder if they would let him go.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Sure there is, its all about the LOL's

I should've just stopped after he said he hated 95% of college football. That's my mistake

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Just to clarify, Dean gets no votes, you have the avatar of my choice for a month.  Dean gets a vote, I have your avatar of choice for a month.

Agreed.

Agreend

1 minute ago, Texas Eagle said:

Wonder if we keep 5 or 6 WRs. If 5, Ward may finally be gone. AJB, Smith, Watkins, Paschal are locks. Ward, Reagor, Hightower, Allen, and the UDFA guy (forget his name) all fighting for final spots.

I'll be surprised if Reagor is on the squad come TC