8 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

He was by far the biggest factor in it.  The only time the offensive line played noticeably poorly was the first 2 or 3 drives of that week 1 Washington game, which also ironically are the best 2-3 drives Wentz had that season.  

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Be careful, you might join the rest of us on the ignore list.  I call it the Hurts haters club.

I might even get some points for that post, but I've never read such Bull Durham on this board - ever!  And that takes some effort.

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Wow.   We are done.   No sane person could make that statement.  So, you are either insane, or you are forever a troll.   Good bye.

 

Wentz was terrible in his own right last season.  He has no one else to blame but himself for how bad he was.  It wasn't the offensive lines fault when he took terrible sacks, it was Wentz's fault that he refused to ever throw the ball away. 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I might even get some points for that post, but I've never read such Bull Durham on this board - ever!  And that takes some effort.

He is a troll, he has always been a troll.  There is a reason he was banned on the previous board for talking ish about Nick Foles after he won a Super Bowl.  He is already well on his way again.  He is hiding behind ignore anytime someone owns him, at some point he will ignore people who quote posts of people he has on ignore, and then will have a full meltdown.  

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

He is a troll, he has always been a troll.  There is a reason he was banned on the previous board for talking ish about Nick Foles after he won a Super Bowl.  He is already well on his way again.  He is hiding behind ignore anytime someone owns him, at some point he will ignore people who quote posts of people he has on ignore, and then will have a full meltdown.  

He just did.  

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He just did.  

Sadly,  I think that's a Tuesday 

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

.    I'm guessing this is sarcasm.

No - I’m mean salary cap is relative to what the team needs to do. I don’t think cap space has ever really limited the team. 

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

No - I’m mean salary cap is relative to what the team needs to do. I don’t think cap space has ever really limited the team. 

Except they couldn't sign a decent safety, lb or de this past year.  

 

Maybe Anthony Harris, Eric Wilson and Ryan Kerrigan were their top targets.   

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Except they couldn't sign a decent safety, lb or de this past year.  

 

Maybe Anthony Harris, Eric Wilson and Ryan Kerrigan were their top targets.   

I forgot we even had Eric Wilson for a little bit til you said it. Lol

59 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Hurts was hot garbage this year. Wentz packed his bags last offseason. This offseason Hurts will be dropped off at a shelter

Will Hurts pay rent at that shelter, or do we tax payers have to foot the bill??

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Got into an argument today with someone who tried to argue Hurts has a stronger arm than Herbert and Josh Allen because of some random velocity measuring thing from the senior bowl a couple years back.

And said people just have an agenda against Hurts for thinking he doesn't have a good arm.

Any test or measurement that assigns a comparable number to Hurts as Allen or Herbert can immediately be invalidated as a measurement of arm strength.

3 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Will Hurts pay rent at that shelter, or do we tax payers have to foot the bill??

Nfl will just add a team to it to make the extra money 

2 hours ago, Utebird said:

Ive been saying this all week, there's no way dean is 6ft and his arms don't look long either 

Nfl scouts gms and coaches aren't drooling over under 6ft LBs that weigh 215lbs.

I'm guessing he goes 2nd round but I can't see a team using a 1st on him.

Will naturally be the first LB Howie takes in the first.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

@Outlaw

 

 

RB factory!

I love PFF when they say good things about our guys. Otherwise they are bums

The more I watch Strong, the more I want him to be the guy at #19.  

That arm is a surface to air missile.  

And no...that's not enough.  But he's got a silky smooth, compact, effortless release to launch it out, whether it's a short touch pass, a deep rainbow, or a 20 yard rope.  Mechanics are sound with no wasted motion...such a breath of fresh air after the total mechanical train wreck we struggled with for years with Wentz (and Hurts).  He has excellent deep ball accuracy.  And unlike several NCAA qbs blessed with an arm like that, he does not struggle with the touch throw (took Josh Allen 3 years to figure that out, Mcnabb went a full career without doing it).

He is literally the anti-Hurts...

Huge arm...yes.  Accuracy...yes.  Mechanics...yes.  Release...yes.  Field vision...yes.  Decision-making...yes.  Mobility...no.

And just as some wanted to wait for Hurts to develop/improve upon literally everything else that matters for a QB, there might actually be some room for improvement with Strong's mobility.  He showed some real hesitation in leaving the pocket in his last year...he's not a bad athlete...and I'd much rather bet on him gaining some mobility with that ACL further in the rearview mirror than bet on a dual-threat learning to be a quarterback.  The guy punted for Nevada.  That doesn't make him fast or mobile, but it shows you he's not some stiff of an athlete who can only launch a football.

3 minutes ago, OCEaglefan said:

I love PFF when they say good things about our guys. Otherwise they are bums

I place zero value in anything PFF says or does (unless I really agree with it).

Dickerson was great.  Creed Humphrey was great.  There is no way Creed Humphrey was 7.6 points better than one of the best rookie WR seasons in NFL history, nor is there any way that Dickerson was in a virtual tie with that given how he played when he first saw game action.

You can excuse Dickerson for struggling early on the basis of being a rookie recovering from injury...but that doesn't matter when you grade the performance and put a number on it.  It's just a total joke for that to be equivalent to Chase.  

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The more I watch Strong, the more I want him to be the guy at #19.  

That arm is a surface to air missile.  

And no...that's not enough.  But he's got a silky smooth, compact, effortless release to launch it out, whether it's a short touch pass, a deep rainbow, or a 20 yard rope.  Mechanics are sound with no wasted motion...such a breath of fresh air after the total mechanical train wreck we struggled with for years with Wentz (and Hurts).  He has excellent deep ball accuracy.  And unlike several NCAA qbs blessed with an arm like that, he does not struggle with the touch throw (took Josh Allen 3 years to figure that out, Mcnabb went a full career without doing it).

He is literally the anti-Hurts...

Huge arm...yes.  Accuracy...yes.  Mechanics...yes.  Release...yes.  Field vision...yes.  Decision-making...yes.  Mobility...no.

And just as some wanted to wait for Hurts to develop/improve upon literally everything else that matters for a QB, there might actually be some room for improvement with Strong's mobility.  He showed some real hesitation in leaving the pocket in his last year...he's not a bad athlete...and I'd much rather bet on him gaining some mobility with that ACL further in the rearview mirror than bet on a dual-threat learning to be a quarterback.  The guy punted for Nevada.  That doesn't make him fast or mobile, but it shows you he's not some stiff of an athlete who can only launch a football.

I'm guessing you saw that video I posted.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I place zero value in anything PFF says or does (unless I really agree with it).

Dickerson was great.  Creed Humphrey was great.  There is no way Creed Humphrey was 7.6 points better than one of the best rookie WR seasons in NFL history, nor is there any way that Dickerson was in a virtual tie with that given how he played when he first saw game action.

You can excuse Dickerson for struggling early on the basis of being a rookie recovering from injury...but that doesn't matter when you grade the performance and put a number on it.  It's just a total joke for that to be equivalent to Chase.  

Im pretty those are just the grades from wild card weekend 

9 minutes ago, Swoop said:

 

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

His mechanics do suffer at times as he throws off-balance, relying too heavily on his arm strength. 

You can fix that. You can’t fix a lack of arm talent.  Strong has plenty of arm talent.

10 minutes ago, downundermike said:

You can fix that. You can’t fix a lack of arm talent.  Strong has plenty of arm talent.

I watched a highlight video of his for fun... not a single time where he RAN with the ball as a highlight.    

47 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

The more I watch Strong, the more I want him to be the guy at #19.  

That arm is a surface to air missile.  

And no...that's not enough.  But he's got a silky smooth, compact, effortless release to launch it out, whether it's a short touch pass, a deep rainbow, or a 20 yard rope.  Mechanics are sound with no wasted motion...such a breath of fresh air after the total mechanical train wreck we struggled with for years with Wentz (and Hurts).  He has excellent deep ball accuracy.  And unlike several NCAA qbs blessed with an arm like that, he does not struggle with the touch throw (took Josh Allen 3 years to figure that out, Mcnabb went a full career without doing it).

He is literally the anti-Hurts...

Huge arm...yes.  Accuracy...yes.  Mechanics...yes.  Release...yes.  Field vision...yes.  Decision-making...yes.  Mobility...no.

And just as some wanted to wait for Hurts to develop/improve upon literally everything else that matters for a QB, there might actually be some room for improvement with Strong's mobility.  He showed some real hesitation in leaving the pocket in his last year...he's not a bad athlete...and I'd much rather bet on him gaining some mobility with that ACL further in the rearview mirror than bet on a dual-threat learning to be a quarterback.  The guy punted for Nevada.  That doesn't make him fast or mobile, but it shows you he's not some stiff of an athlete who can only launch a football.

Never seen him play but when a QB has actual arm takent then one can work with it.

McNabb was a pretty raw qb prospect but he had a ton of arm talent and physical ability.

And while he never became a polished passer he was a pretty good deep ball thrower, it was those darn worms that gave him trouble and he was never an elite processor but still light years ahead if hurts.

Hurts doesn't have any if those natural qb traits that one can work with, all his best attributes are intangibles, and while it's nice to have a qb that is well liked and a good leader and works hard if he doesn't have the requisite arm traits it's tough to succeed with just intangibles.

I'd rather have a guy like strong who at least checks the boxes in requisite passing traits to be successful in the NFL.

Have no idea about his intangibles, is he more hurts or more Jeff George.???

Jeff George had all the arm talent In the world but he was a grade A a hole.

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Will Hurts pay rent at that shelter, or do we tax payers have to foot the bill??

Tax payers of course. We will be stuck paying for the roof over his head, food, yearly shots.... until he gets adopted