1 minute ago, Outlaw said:

I like him but not enough to draft him top 10. 

I won't deny I am suffering from some PTSD.

41 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

I'm just gonna keep telling myself 'I don't want ojabo' so the Eagles draft him then.  

He’s my top realistic target as well. I’m worried he’s gonna destroy the combine and move out of range. 

Is the report that Brandon Brooks is retiring true?  If so what does that do to the cap?

Just now, bpac55 said:

Is the report that Brandon Brooks is retiring true?  If so what does that do to the cap?

3 million or so saved, 15.7 dead

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

3 million or so saved, 15.7 dead

Was that the best case scenario or would June 1st cut/trade have been better for the cap?  Glad he made the decision to walk away.

8 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Was that the best case scenario or would June 1st cut/trade have been better for the cap?  Glad he made the decision to walk away.

These are the numbers if Brooks retires Post June 1st. 

2022: 5,939,235 million in dead cap

2023: 9,797,000 million in dead cap

Cap savings:
2022: 13,500,000, won’t be available till june 1st, can be used on rookies and roll over

2023: 13,700,000. 

2024: 15,500,000

Meaning we are getting more money back then we originally had in each year. We are getting the value back from Brooks because Dickerson is on a rookie contract and he is playing excellent. Which means we are getting production from the position. They will need a backup guard who will ultimately make league minimum. We can upgrade a different position now where we aren’t getting production. 

Don’t let @downundermike scare you with his dead cap number.

(The Eagles can restructure Brooks and then designate him as a june 1st retirement and use some money before June 1st if they want to)

$15m dead money to a retired OG.  

17 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I know all of his positives.  I’ve looked at highlights since before our season.  He does have some question marks.  

My very short list of reasons to look past the inexperience in a pro-style offense, due to playing in an air raid system

1. Patrick Mahomes

2. Kingsbury has adapted his air raid offense in to something more suitable for the NFL. 

With #2 in mind, its not as though NFL teams are beginning to run the air raid, but it is possible to bring air raid concepts and incorporate them in to a a functional NFL offense. 

If we were to draft Carson Strong, I think it would be wise to hire some low level coach to our staff who has some air raid experience. Call him the passing game coordinator, or assistant WRs coach, or some kind of consultant, whatever. And I might forget my dream of Chark as a possibly realistic target, and shift focus to Kirk, who can bring ideas/experience in Kliff's system adapted for the NFL. 

9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He might be, but he’s 100% right.  

No he wasnt. Almost every part was actually wrong. Just like most of his Hurts takes.  Guys a fraud

 

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Is the report that Brandon Brooks is retiring true?  If so what does that do to the cap?

Doesn't matter. I love Brooks but he's played how how many games in the last 2 years? We have plenty of talent ready to step up so he needs to go whether he's ready to retire not.

 

Tomlin was talking in his press conference about how important it is for a QB to have mobility.  Please let them trade for Hurts.

If you were to read a scouting report on JoJo Domann,  youd think you are reading about Nakobe Dean. Domann might be slightly bigger. Probably the reason he is projected so much lower is that he is an old prospect. 6th year senior. In the 3rd round, Ill take it. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

If you were to read a scouting report on JoJo Domann,  youd think you are reading about Nakobe Dean. Domann might be slightly bigger. Probably the reason he is projected so much lower is that he is an old prospect. 6th year senior. In the 3rd round, Ill take it. 

 

 

Charleston Rambo would be tremendous value at 164.  I just think he's going to be a solid pro....nothing flashy but a good WR.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Charleston Rambo would be tremendous value at 164.  I just think he's going to be a solid pro....nothing flashy but a good WR.

I cant help but think their rankings are still a little off kilter on that one. But... then again there really seems to be no hype for him, ever. So... I hope its realistic. 

Sorry but I just can't get behind spending a third round pick on a guy whose second contract would start at age 29.  

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Charleston Rambo would be tremendous value at 164.  I just think he's going to be a solid pro....nothing flashy but a good WR.

Every ranking today will change post-combine and post-Senior Bowl. 

32 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

 

(The Eagles can restructure Brooks and then designate him as a june 1st retirement and use some money before June 1st if they want to)

Thats not true.  They can designate, like you say, but they cannot use the money until June 1.

12 minutes ago, Peppersmacks said:

Sorry but I just can't get behind spending a third round pick on a guy whose second contract would start at age 29.  

If he’s good enough to earn a second contract - he played pretty well right?

Just now, Waiting4Someday said:

If he’s good enough to earn a second contract - he played pretty well right?

I was going to say banking on him even being worthy of a second contract is a big if with our drafting 

16 minutes ago, Peppersmacks said:

Sorry but I just can't get behind spending a third round pick on a guy whose second contract would start at age 29.  

are you familiar with the player?

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Thats not true.  They can designate, like you say, but they cannot use the money until June 1.

They can if they restructure him first before they designate. Brees is an example

Just now, MillerTime said:

Not if they restructure him first before the designate.

If they restructure, depending on what it looks like will dictate his cost.  But whatever is saved of that dead and pushed to 2023 doesnt become free until June 1.  That's exactly what happened with the restructures of Alshon and Malik Jackson.  They pushed money to the next year, but it didn't free up until June 1.

22 hours ago, The Blackfish said:

He set the protections on almost every play this season, so being in charge of 10 other guys at least let’s you know his hand wasn’t being held by a college coach who wished he was good enough to be a quality NFL QB.  Lincoln Riley, check, Kingsbury, check, Kiffin, check.  Mahomes has been a good QB because Reid benched him for most of rookie season to coach up the good, and coach out the bad.     This supposed great QB class of Lawrence, Wilson, and Fields were all out done in their rookie season by Davis Mills, and Tim Couch, for those old enough to remember which proves colleges aren’t preparing these guys in their BS offensive systems.  Every single high draft pick should of sat on the bench this season. 
  
Sorry for the rant, back to Strong it’s not that he’s completely immobile,  I watched way too many Nevada games this season, and he had at least 4 in a row that his knee was pouring blood. His high school knee surgery ( 4-6) nails put in his knee from a degenerative lesion of some sort, almost ruined his chances to play QB at a Division 1 school.  I also saw a report that last January he had a bone graft done on the same knee that should of kept him out 10 months, but he was back in August.  Also he’s had at least one arthroscopic clean out surgery on that same knee at some point during his time at Nevada.   He was apparently a pretty good HS basketball player which leads me to believe he isn’t Tom Brady, but that knee is a serious concern going forward though. 
His arm strength is comparable to Herberts.

 

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

The more I watch Strong, the more I want him to be the guy at #19.  

That arm is a surface to air missile.  

And no...that's not enough.  But he's got a silky smooth, compact, effortless release to launch it out, whether it's a short touch pass, a deep rainbow, or a 20 yard rope.  Mechanics are sound with no wasted motion...such a breath of fresh air after the total mechanical train wreck we struggled with for years with Wentz (and Hurts).  He has excellent deep ball accuracy.  And unlike several NCAA qbs blessed with an arm like that, he does not struggle with the touch throw (took Josh Allen 3 years to figure that out, Mcnabb went a full career without doing it).

He is literally the anti-Hurts...

Huge arm...yes.  Accuracy...yes.  Mechanics...yes.  Release...yes.  Field vision...yes.  Decision-making...yes.  Mobility...no.

And just as some wanted to wait for Hurts to develop/improve upon literally everything else that matters for a QB, there might actually be some room for improvement with Strong's mobility.  He showed some real hesitation in leaving the pocket in his last year...he's not a bad athlete...and I'd much rather bet on him gaining some mobility with that ACL further in the rearview mirror than bet on a dual-threat learning to be a quarterback.  The guy punted for Nevada.  That doesn't make him fast or mobile, but it shows you he's not some stiff of an athlete who can only launch a football.

The post above from last night from someone who actually watched his games and I thought was good info.

That first bolded part to me is huge.  That is really rare in college ball for the QB to be calling out protections every play.  Already gives him an advantage over the other QBs in the draft.  Most of them have the O simplified for them so they just have to make one read and let it rip.

The second part would make you think he does have enough athletic ability, just the knee injury is holding him back.  But someone else posted he was cleared by an NFL doctor and as you said there's a chance for him to get better the further he gets from the injury.  IF they do draft him then I'd want them to trade Hurts, roll with Minshew for 2022 and give Strong a full season to sit and learn as much as he can (and another year of letting that knee heal) with the goal being for him to start in 2023. 

And I don't mind a QB who didn't face the top talent on D because it also means he didn't have the top talent on O around him.  How many QBs from the elite top schools (loaded with O talent around them) have done good to great in the NFL and how many have been mediocre or worse?  Seems like more have not been good than have been good.  I think it's more important to look at the QB himself than where he played and against who.  Does he have enough natural talent and enough natural instincts required for the position that some coaching up will have him able to play well in the NFL?

 

45 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

He’s my top realistic target as well. I’m worried he’s gonna destroy the combine and move out of range. 

  I think it happens at the Senior Bowl and the combine. I’m sure Lowie has looked at all of these guys and considering McNabb’s mobility, Vicks, Wentz’s and Hurts, I could see them liking Pickett and Ridder more than Strong.