16 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Mailata has a cap number of 4.37 million this year.  If he is traded, all future signing bonus money accelerates and his cap number becomes 28.4 million.

As I already said, dumbest idea ever.

You don't understand the cap so you don't see the answer. Yes, there is dead cap. But there's also savings available. It could easily be a cap neutral trade. Again, you don't understand the cap, so why even talk about it.

9 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Harden Takes more 3's than Curry and basically works of the same percentage as Curry. Harden is also a better ball handler and passer so the floor spacing got better. 

No backup big... meh... 6ers have had Boban, Howard and Drummond and there all basically interchangeable so I'm sure Bassey will be just fine. 

I agree harden isnt the Harden of 3 years ago. But he's still a top 10 player in the league WAY better than Ben. 

Nets literally have Ben Simmons. thats it. KD is gonna be hurt for awhile and Kyrie has 8 games left this year

 

Harden shoots a ton , average ,23 FGs per game and 13 , 3s per game

hits 43 %from the field , 35 % from 3

that is not good , his pts per game looks good , until you take in how often he throws it up

and his defense is pedestrian 

I personally don’t think it was a great trade for sixers , and Harden can be like Rudy Gobert great season stats ,not so much in the play 

but I’m done with this topic , let’s wait and see how the season finishes 

 

6 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

You don't understand the cap so you don't see the answer. Yes, there is dead cap. But there's also savings available. It could easily be a cap neutral trade. Again, you don't understand the cap, so why even talk about it.

There is no savings available.  If there is, please explain it instead of your "you don't understand the cap" nonsense.

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Don't think so.

My mother in law has offered to fly down to Kansas to watch our kids so my wife and I can take a vacation alone, we were thinking we might go to Vegas since we haven't been for a few years, so we'll check out Mt Charleston if we go.

Go someplace new.  This spring and summer I have trips arranged for Hawaii and Alaska.  Gets me  to having seen all 50:states.  (Landing at an airport and visiting a city doesn’t count, I have driven through the other states.  Fo HI, I have a tour of three islands and for Alaska, I am traveling on three rail lines and two boat trips).  My wife has eight states to go, six after those two trips, and I already have routes planned for two trips. (Get off the freeways.)  I believe if more people saw the country this way, we would be more united as a country.  We are so lucky to live in such a beautiful place.

26 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Mailata has a cap number of 4.37 million this year.  If he is traded, all future signing bonus money accelerates and his cap number becomes 28.4 million.

As I already said, dumbest idea ever.

28.4M + 24M Russell Wilson = cap neutral

 

duh

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

28.4M + 24M Russell Wilson = cap neutral

 

duh

Mailata’s numbers of traded pre-June first and post June 1st  I’m doubting seattle waiting til June 1st to make that deal  

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Don't think so.

My mother in law has offered to fly down to Kansas to watch our kids so my wife and I can take a vacation alone, we were thinking we might go to Vegas since we haven't been for a few years, so we'll check out Mt Charleston if we go.

Some good hiking spots around there, good scenery (there's actually real trees!), and the ski lodge is up there.  One of my fav parts about living in Vegas was that in the 'winter' I could be on my boat fishing in the morning, then go play in the snow all in one day.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Mailata’s numbers of traded pre-June first and post June 1st  I’m doubting seattle waiting til June 1st to make that deal  

Those numbers do not apply to the Hawks, they are not responsible for the signing bonus.

They would only be responsible for the base salary and workout bonus $$. 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Those numbers do not apply to the Hawks, they are not responsible for the signing bonus.

They would only be responsible for the base salary and workout bonus $$. 

Yeah but it applies to the eagles where if they trade him pre-June 1st it’s 28.4 mil in dead money and still 24 mil against our cap. How does that make any sense to do that?

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah but it applies to the eagles where if they trade him pre-June 1st it’s 28 mil in dead money and still 24 mil against our cap. How does that make any sense to do that? 

Agree with that part.  It makes no sense, @jsb235 is just pulling nonsense out of his @ss.

35 minutes ago, austinfan said:

This was driven by Schwartz, starting in 2016. He didn't like having to coach up rookies. 2017 was the only draft where they went defense with Schwartz at DC.

Kelly ran the 2015 draft, and most of the 2014 (wasn't on board in time to control the 2013).

2012, 2015 were the only other defensive oriented drafts.

 

Schwartz reportedly really liked Chinn in 2020.  He also liked the Barnett  and he played a fair amount as a rookie.  He started Mills as a rookie.  The only thing I remember him saying about rookies is that LB and Safety are hard to learn as rookies.  I don't know if he wouldn't have played Chinn.  

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Agree with that part.  It makes no sense, @jsb235 is just pulling nonsense out of his @ss.

I am guessing Seattle would like Jordan Mailata. As would a lot of teams. But I’m guessing the Eagles wouldn’t give him up. But would be willing to trade dillard who still could potentially be a solid left tackle for Seattle who needs a left tackle since duane Brown is a free agent and 37.

The issue with dillard is he only really has one year left on his contract. If you exercise his fifth year option and he’s not a fit or good, it’s still guaranteed at that point of when it’s exercised. So I’m doubting Seattle does that considering the fact in 3 years dillard has had durability concerns and hasn’t started many games. so unlikely they just exercise it. So some value is lost with Dillard simply because of his contract situation heading into next year. So it’s more like seattle would ask and take a chance on a former first rounder for a year and if he pans out at worse tag him at the end of 2022 in any deal regarding Wilson   

And also when they trade dillard, it actually saves the Eagles $2.18 million in Space.

Jump to the last page and I see trading Mailata discussion. Why on Earth would we trade him for Wilson? Why would he want to go to a team that traded their starting LT to get him? He's had Oline problems all of his career. He's not going to want to go to a team that just got worse on Online lol

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

This was driven by Schwartz, starting in 2016. He didn't like having to coach up rookies. 2017 was the only draft where they went defense with Schwartz at DC.

Kelly ran the 2015 draft, and most of the 2014 (wasn't on board in time to control the 2013).

2012, 2015 were the only other defensive oriented drafts.

 

Funny, Schwartz didn’t have problems playing rookies at Detroit and played some rookies here, despite Howie not giving him any.  Quit blaming Howie’s failures on others. Ultimately, as GM, he is responsible for the draft.  If he is leaning to the coaches too much and not listening to the scouting staff, well that’s on Howie.

2 hours ago, downundermike said:

Still waiting for an explanation why Stoutland getting votes is ridiculous ??  He is one of the best position coaches in the league.

I don't think it was meant to be negative...at least in the way that I think that it's ridiculous that an OL coach is that good he gets that praise (and doesn't seem to care about moving up in the coaching world).

13 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Those numbers do not apply to the Hawks, they are not responsible for the signing bonus.

They would only be responsible for the base salary and workout bonus $$. 

 

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah but it applies to the eagles where if they trade him pre-June 1st it’s 28.4 mil in dead money and still 24 mil against our cap. How does that make any sense to do that?

You both better watch it

Not so fun now, huh?

40 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Nothing positive for the nets ? SMH 

Addition by subtraction for starters , as I said yesterday , the sixers lose their best floor spacer , lose depth , no backup big 

Harden is not the harden of a few years ago , he is a out of shape headcase  , give him time he will checkout like always 

They just picked up one of the best floor spacers in the league.  A monster floor spacer compared to Curry.  Curry is a nice player but is truly a role player not a difference maker.  Do you not watch Harden play?  He will produce so many easy buckets for his teammates, he will score, can get to the hoop at will, and space the floor.  

Just now, Freshmilk said:

They just picked up one of the best floor spacers in the league.  A monster floor spacer compared to Curry.  Curry is a nice player but is truly a role player not a difference maker.  Do you not watch Harden play?  He will produce so many easy buckets for his teammates, he will score, can get to the hoop at will, and space the floor.  

My only issue is that Harden is on the tail end of his career. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

You both better watch it

Not so fun now, huh?

4 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

They just picked up one of the best floor spacers in the league.  A monster floor spacer compared to Curry.  Curry is a nice player but is truly a role player not a difference maker.  Do you not watch Harden play?  He will produce so many easy buckets for his teammates, he will score, can get to the hoop at will, and space the floor.  

I have said all I have to say on Harden , let’s just watch and see how the playoffs go .

because after all that is what he was traded for 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah but it applies to the eagles where if they trade him pre-June 1st it’s 28.4 mil in dead money and still 24 mil against our cap. How does that make any sense to do that?

It's cute how you are trying to understand how the salary cap works.

Let me explain it to you like you are a child, or a golden retriever.

If they trade Mailata, they incur a dead cap hit. But they can easily recover it by restructuring Wilson. So for the first year it has little cap impact. That's what you are missing. Anyone with half a brain could see that is the easy solution to the short-term problem.

"But they are then kicking the can down the road" will be the next idiotic thing you post.

And you will be right. But you will also fail to see the fact that the team is experiencing considering savings by having three first-round picks on the roster.

Let's say they pick a DE, a CB and a WR. A draft pick at number 15 has a salary cap hit of around $3.5 million a year. So for those three players, it will cost them around $10 million a year. Sweat is getting $13 million a year. Sutton is getting $15 million a year. A decent corner is $15 million a year. So that's $43 million a year. So the team is effectively saving $33 million a year over the four years of Wilson's Super Bowl window by retaining its draft picks instead of trading them instead of Mailata.

This should be pretty simple stuff to understand.

  

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

Troy Polamalu played less seasons than Butler but I think he was just give more hype as a player.  I think he is overrated as compared to a player like Malcolm Jenkins or Dawkins who were much better in coverage.  Butler was as well.  Boselli is questionable.  He had a short career and made pro bowls.  He was good but I mean Tra Thomas was better and had a longer career. 

Tra Thomas played 12 seasons made 3  pro bowls and zero all pros.

He was good but never the best at his position.

For a few seasons Boselli was the top OT in football, he had 5 pro bowls and 3 all pros in 5 consecutive seasons.

So even though his career was shortened by injury for 5 seasons in a row he was elite.

5 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

It's cute how you are trying to understand how the salary cap works.

Let me explain it to you like you are a child, or a golden retriever.

If they trade Mailata, they incur a dead cap hit. But they can easily recover it by restructuring Wilson. So for the first year it has little cap impact. That's what you are missing. Anyone with half a brain could see that is the easy solution to the short-term problem.

"But they are then kicking the can down the road" will be the next idiotic thing you post.

And you will be right. But you will also fail to see the fact that the team is experiencing considering savings by having three first-round picks on the roster.

Let's say they pick a DE, a CB and a WR. A draft pick at number 15 has a salary cap hit of around $3.5 million a year. So for those three players, it will cost them around $10 million a year. Sweat is getting $13 million a year. Sutton is getting $15 million a year. A decent corner is $15 million a year. So that's $43 million a year. So the team is effectively saving $33 million a year over the four years of Wilson's Super Bowl window by retaining its draft picks instead of trading them instead of Mailata.

This should be pretty simple stuff to understand.

  

If Jordan Mailata is traded, his cap hit for 2022 goes from 4.3 million to 29.4 million.

That then puts the Eagles 2.5 million over the cap, so there is no way they can then take on Russel Wilson's base salary of 19 million.

For the 2022 season, trading Mailata for Wilson is a 44 million dollar negative cap impact for the Eagles.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

That then puts the Eagles 2.5 million over the cap, so there is no way they can then take on Russel Wilson's base salary of 19 million.

Hmm, that is a pickle.

Unless they restructure Wilson, which is the obvious answer.

I explained this all in my post. I tried to explain it like you are a child, or a golden retriever. Apparently I set the bar too high. 

 

36 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Go someplace new.  This spring and summer I have trips arranged for Hawaii and Alaska.  Gets me  to having seen all 50:states.  (Landing at an airport and visiting a city doesn’t count, I have driven through the other states.  Fo HI, I have a tour of three islands and for Alaska, I am traveling on three rail lines and two boat trips).  My wife has eight states to go, six after those two trips, and I already have routes planned for two trips. (Get off the freeways.)  I believe if more people saw the country this way, we would be more united as a country.  We are so lucky to live in such a beautiful place.

Yup, I think I'd rather go someplace else rather than Vegas, my wife is originally from N Dakota and she wants to take me to the bad lands, ive never been.

Also Alaska sounds awesome, the northern lights are on my wife's bucket listen. 

Going to Hawaii and Alaska in one year would be fun.

I love Hawaii been a while and not really in our budget right now.

As for being united as a country I think traveling the US can help as can traveling abroad, not just uniting us as americans but humans as well.

One of these days I'll get to Philly, I was supposed to go last year as my wife had a work conference but got canceled due to covid☹️