4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Nothing like seeing jsb go full barcarty today on a ridiculously bad trade idea and compounding it with an even more ridiculous trying to make it work which leaves you in an even worse cap situation and lesser player in dillard on the field.

Plus three first round draft picks.

At least get the argument right if you are going to criticize it.

44 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

It's cute how you are trying to understand how the salary cap works.

Let me explain it to you like you are a child, or a golden retriever.

If they trade Mailata, they incur a dead cap hit. But they can easily recover it by restructuring Wilson. So for the first year it has little cap impact. That's what you are missing. Anyone with half a brain could see that is the easy solution to the short-term problem.

"But they are then kicking the can down the road" will be the next idiotic thing you post.

And you will be right. But you will also fail to see the fact that the team is experiencing considering savings by having three first-round picks on the roster.

Let's say they pick a DE, a CB and a WR. A draft pick at number 15 has a salary cap hit of around $3.5 million a year. So for those three players, it will cost them around $10 million a year. Sweat is getting $13 million a year. Sutton is getting $15 million a year. A decent corner is $15 million a year. So that's $43 million a year. So the team is effectively saving $33 million a year over the four years of Wilson's Super Bowl window by retaining its draft picks instead of trading them instead of Mailata.

This should be pretty simple stuff to understand.

  

Love the "Margin Call” reference.

12 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Wow, $7.5 million. We could never get out of that hole.

Just stop. You have been schooled enough for one day.

 

The only person schooled today was you.  That is a moronic idea.  Trading a 23 year old excellent starting LT on a team friendly deal and a QB for a 33 year old short QB seems too dumb even for Howie.  Seattle has only Eason signed as a QB.  It seems like nonsense that he would be available, but if he is, it is because he is overpriced.  You must be trolling.

11 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Plus three first round draft picks.

At least get the argument right if you are going to criticize it.

Yes because Seattle wouldn’t ask for more than just mailata and hurts…  riiiiiight. Just keep thinking that they will just keep all those first and only give up hurts and mailata. 

this was the very next sentence after that part you quoted:

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t worry seattle is just going to do hurts and mailata straight up for Wilson like they wouldn’t ask for more than that for Him  

When everyone on the blog (particularly bigefly who rarely does it) has told you that was an awful idea, you might wanna just sit back and let this go

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

The only person schooled today was you.  That is a moronic idea.  Trading a 23 year old excellent starting LT on a team friendly deal and a QB for a 33 year old short QB seems too dumb even for Howie.  Seattle has only Eason signed as a QB.  It seems like nonsense that he would be available, but if he is, it is because he is overpriced.  You must be trolling.

Not trolling. If the team trades for Wilson (as has been suggested by some), then what does a deal look like that gets us Wilson plus retains enough resources that allows us to get better in other areas?

I don't see it by trading draft picks. If we want to make a deal, it has to be for something that the Seahawks want as much as we want Wilson. And Mailata is the only player that makes sense to me.

If you have a better idea, let me know. I am all ears.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yes because Seattle wouldn’t ask for more than just mailata and hurts…  riiiiiight. Just keep thinking that they will just keep all those first and only give up hurts and mailata. 

this was the very next sentence after that part you quoted:

I don't think they would ask for more than Hurts and Mailata. And it wouldn't make sense for us to pay any more than that for Wilson.

3 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I don't think they would ask for more than Hurts and Mailata. And it wouldn't make sense for us to pay any more than that for Wilson.

The Hawks would not even ask for Mailata, as they are not dumb enough to think we would trade a generational LT and incurring a 29 million dollar dead cap hit.

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

This was driven by Schwartz, starting in 2016. He didn't like having to coach up rookies. 2017 was the only draft where they went defense with Schwartz at DC.

Kelly ran the 2015 draft, and most of the 2014 (wasn't on board in time to control the 2013).

2012, 2015 were the only other defensive oriented drafts.

 

Yes, it is never Roseman's fault -we get it.

19 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

ND Badlands or SD Badlands?  (Been to both but I favor the SD Badlands, and not because of Wall Drug.). My dad spent his summers in college and graduate school (except his last when he interned in Bakersfield, CA) surveying, first for the state and then for the USGS in the Badlands.  I have a petrified turtle in my house from those days.  He was a paleo geologist.  The fossils in the SD Badlands are awesome.   Teddy Roosevelt National Park in ND is awesome.  

Northern lights are on my bucket list too.  Daughter and I spent a week in Iceland in December trying to see them to no avail.  My daughter snorkeled the divide between the America plate and European plate in a lake there. (I was unqualified due to my age and weight.). But I can say that I have driven from America to Europe because I drove the car on our tour of Iceland.  Friendliest foreign country I have been to, so far.

I have driven the western and middle provinces in Canada but have the eastern ones (east of Quebec) provinces to go.  I plan on going up there to try to see the northern lights.  It is kind of hit or miss trying to see them.

When I am in Alaska, alas, it will be the time of the midnight sun.

Well I hope you finally get to see those elusive northern lights 

I'm not sure which badlands, I'll have to ask her🤷‍♂️

Iceland sounds awesome.

So many places I'd like to go and see.

11 minutes ago, downundermike said:

The Hawks would not even ask for Mailata, as they are not dumb enough to think we would trade a generational LT and incurring a 29 million dollar dead cap hit.

Gotta love everyone unanimously agreeing it was bad trade idea and then he compounds it by doubling and tripling down on it. But don’t worry the insults he slings makes it more justifiable though. 

11 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Not trolling. If the team trades for Wilson (as has been suggested by some), then what does a deal look like that gets us Wilson plus retains enough resources that allows us to get better in other areas?

I don't see it by trading draft picks. If we want to make a deal, it has to be for something that the Seahawks want as much as we want Wilson. And Mailata is the only player that makes sense to me.

If you have a better idea, let me know. I am all ears.

That's not how trades work.  If Wilson tells the Chickens he wants out, then their leverage diminishes significantly.  If he lists only 1-2 teams he'll waive his no-trade clause for, that diminishes their leverage further.  SEA would only be able to negotiate with those 1-2 teams and would be compelled to accept the best offer -- or force the player to make a choice whether to play/sit out the year.  Some players sit out the year.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Gotta love everyone unanimously agreeing it was bad trade idea and then he compounds it by doubling and tripling down on it. But don’t worry the insults he slings makes it more justifiable though. 

Well in fairness he seems like he has a lot of conversations with his golden retriever so he's not used to having people disagree with him (although on this one the dog might)

49 minutes ago, greend said:

There are some real doozies that post here sometimes. 

If only there were more floozies 

17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

That's not how trades work.  If Wilson tells the Chickens he wants out, then their leverage diminishes significantly.  If he lists only 1-2 teams he'll waive his no-trade clause for, that diminishes their leverage further.  SEA would only be able to negotiate with those 1-2 teams and would be compelled to accept the best offer -- or force the player to make a choice whether to play/sit out the year.  Some players sit out the year.

Listen, this is a Yorkshire Terrier level post okay? Be less dumb Bozo!

Sixers get Harden, the Eagles need to go get Watson or Wilson now. Since the Eagles won the SB, Philly sports has fallen on hard times. Largely because frankly, not enough elite star talent in this city. Time for this city to start putting itself back on the map of championship contention and get back to star hunting.

And the Phillies too whenever the lockout ends. Go Fing get Carlos Correa and Schwarber. They won't get both, but they damn well should.

Let's get back to championship aspirations in this city. Hope the Harden move will change the mojo.

33 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I don't think they would ask for more than Hurts and Mailata. And it wouldn't make sense for us to pay any more than that for Wilson.

That would be one of the worst trades in franchise history, imo.   Thank goodness there's ZERO chance it's happening.  

I may be pretty dumb to the inner workings of trades and whatnot (and probably some other stuff), but trading Mailata seems like one the stupidest f’ing ideas ever.

On 2/9/2022 at 5:30 PM, hputenis said:

Bc you were too busy spewing Chipotle out your arse lardmouth!  

Eat a bag of dix. 
 

what are you and olesilverpubes doing for the game? 

I'd inform the league that the GM needs drug tested and possible medical attention if he offered Wilson for Mailata

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Sixers get Harden, the Eagles need to go get Watson or Wilson now. Since the Eagles won the SB, Philly sports has fallen on hard times. Largely because frankly, not enough elite star talent in this city. Time for this city to start putting itself back on the map of championship contention and get back to star hunting.

And the Phillies too whenever the lockout ends. Go Fing get Carlos Correa and Schwarber. They won't get both, but they damn well should.

Let's get back to championship aspirations in this city. Hope the Harden move will change the mojo.

It would be nauseating if the Eagles traded for Watson. 

8 minutes ago, Know Life said:

I may be pretty dumb to the inner workings of trades and whatnot (and probably some other stuff), but trading Mailata seems like one the stupidest f’ing ideas ever.

Yeah you spend your free time on these boards. Join the club 

Devonta Smith, Dallas Goedert, Jordan Mailata, Landon Dickerson, Avonte Maddox, Milton Williams, Josh Sweat

 

for 

 

Russell Wilson, Sidney Jones IV

 

Who says no?

Mailata has been the most overrated player on these boards for at least two years now. 
 

That being said, there’s no chance Howie is trading a former 7th round pick with All-Pro level potential. You know that weaselly narcissist is taking all the credit 

12 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Sixers get Harden, the Eagles need to go get Watson or Wilson now. Since the Eagles won the SB, Philly sports has fallen on hard times. Largely because frankly, not enough elite star talent in this city. Time for this city to start putting itself back on the map of championship contention and get back to star hunting.

And the Phillies too whenever the lockout ends. Go Fing get Carlos Correa and Schwarber. They won't get both, but they damn well should.

Let's get back to championship aspirations in this city. Hope the Harden move will change the mojo.

I think Harden is going to be a disappointment for Philly, he reminds me of Carmelo Anthony as a guy that puts up a bunch of useless stats and never wins anything.

Hes been inefficient this year shooting the ball at 41% FG and only 33% 3pt and he's not getting to the line as much anymore because the league and refs arent giving him and others the ridiculous calls he used to get 

He's a turnover machine and he's never played D his whole career.

Having said that he's an upgrade over Simmons simply because Simmons wasn't playing and while Harden is a head case Simmons is a bigger one, can't imagine how Simmons and Irving will work together, both are cancerous masses.

26 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

That would be one of the worst trades in franchise history, imo.   Thank goodness there's ZERO chance it's happening.  

 

26 minutes ago, Know Life said:

I may be pretty dumb to the inner workings of trades and whatnot (and probably some other stuff), but trading Mailata seems like one the stupidest f’ing ideas ever.

 

19 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd inform the league that the GM needs drug tested and possible medical attention if he offered Wilson for Mailata

 

@jsb235 it is looking unanimous that you may have come up with the dumbest trade idea in the history of the EMB.