54 minutes ago, greend said:

ummmm? 

You know that time someone said that they didn't like Kelce like 10 years ago.  

37 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Yeah, drama queens resort to "jokes" about moms sucking schlang and swallowing to insult someone.  Low hanging fruit for the unimaginative.

I am a Marxist so I prefer the term "drama comrade." 

6 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I agree with everything you stated except for taking a team "very far" 

I think Wentz is in that tier if you give him a monster defense like the 49ers, maybe the steelers, maybe the bears that he could get them to a superbowl.

We all hate Wentz hear apparently, but I think we'd all agree he'd do better than What Jimmy G did against the packers and the Rams. 

I think it was Peter King, I'll try to find the article, but basically said 200 yards of Jimmy G's playoff passing stats came from 5 throws behind the line of scrimmage  

The only other thing about Wentz, is the injury prone label. Amazingly, he's stayed healthy the last 2 years (though 2020 was a strange year). If I had to wager actual money, I'd probably bet that he doesn't make it thru the 2022 season without missing games, and maybe a significant amount. 

 

Edit - The Washington turf is notoriously horrible as well....just another added spice to the sauce

9 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I think most acknowledge Wentz is better than Hurts (lowest bar on Earth to climb over I think). 

Wentz is better than what Washington had, for sure.

But he's still not good enough to take Washington very far. He just makes too many boneheaded mistakes at bad times. It wasn't completely his fault that Indy flamed out...but he certainly had his part to play. I think he was shipped out of Indy mainly because of Irsay being a hot head, but he's now had 2 weird exits from teams. What a strange career. 

Plus being sent to Washington should seal his fate. Oh well, he has lots of money to dry his tears with

42 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You had to ping that dope?

This from a guy that just has to engage the blog trolls. Yes, I had to

15 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

They put Dak in the top tier even after he put up identical numbers to Hurts in his playoff game 

Dak is okay and that's it. 

8 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Top 15 QBs don’t play for 3 different teams in 2 years  . He will be done as a starter in a year if he continues to play the same .

Who did that?

I loved Wentz early on, both as a player and as the guy he appeared to be. I don’t mind a tough leader - many of the greats are just that. 
 

that style is hard enough to take when your play backs it up. But as the injuries mounted, stubborn, uncoachable, and petulant became the descriptors. 
 

and when things got tough…he bailed. 
 

I won’t forget what he was at his best, but I will also balance that with who he became and is now. The Colts were the dream scenario for his resurrection and they cut bait after one season. You just can’t ignore the fall. 

Shady McCoy is quietly shredding Wentz on GMFB.  As a player, he'd hear certain stuff that doesn't get out into the public.

1 minute ago, UK Eagle said:

Shady McCoy is quietly shredding Wentz on GMFB.  As a player, he'd hear certain stuff that doesn't get out into the public.

What's he saying?

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Who did that?

Wentz , Eagles two years ago , colts last year , now on his 3rd team prior to year 3 starting 

At some point we have to stop blaming the coaches 

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well, this also puts the Ravens as having a 'good QB'.  I think they are lying to themselves as well.

Math is hard.   Logic seems harder.

Lamar has an arm but has a long way to go to be an effective passer.  I do think he's improved.  I think the question is whether he can stay healthy and improve enough to just rely on his arm.  I think the odds are against that happening.  It's just as likely he never gets to the level of play he reached in his second season.  

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

What's he saying?

It's 10+ minute segment, so not an easy summary,  They talked about the approach, who he is, etc.  Kay Adams is being super positive saying Wentz is a leader, great body language etc and Shady was politely going, nope and wouldn't let it go.  I won't put words in his mouth but it was a not positive endorsement. Even Garafolo was more caveated than O'Hara was

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Lamar has an arm but has a long way to go to be an effective passer.  I do think he's improved.  I think the question is whether he can stay healthy and improve enough to just rely on his arm.  I think the odds are against that happening.  It's just as likely he never gets to the level of play he reached in his second season.  

Yeah I think Lamar has peaked. Too much wear and tear already, and once he loses his running ability, he's in trouble. I think one of the most underrated players in the league is Mark Andrews. Guy is an absolute beast of a TE, and was finally recognized as an All Pro this year. 

Caplan and Mosher did drop some intel today. Haason Reddick was linked to the Eagles at the combine, plus there was some other stuff about players.  I guess they read here 😉

56 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Says Christian Kirk could get up to $15M a year and Marquez Valdes-Scantling could get $10M.

If that’s the case, Chark should get at least $15M. 

I'm out on Kirk then, not a fan of Scantling at all. 

11 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Engaging them while they’re here, is hardly as bad as drawing another one in.  

meh

9 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Wentz , Eagles two years ago , colts last year , now on his 3rd team prior to year 3 starting 

At some point we have to stop blaming the coaches 

So that would be three teams in three years. 2020 Eagles, 2021 Colts, 2022 Commanders. 

13 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Shady McCoy is quietly shredding Wentz on GMFB.  As a player, he'd hear certain stuff that doesn't get out into the public.

I doubt it's quietly

2 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Caplan and Mosher did drop some intel today. Haason Reddick was linked to the Eagles at the combine, plus there was some other stuff about players.  I guess they read here 😉

I'm not sure about Reddick. Light and not particularly good against the run and I'm sure will be paid a hefty amount. I really like Bonitto or Beavers in the draft for that outside LB spot. 

3 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Wentz , Eagles two years ago , colts last year , now on his 3rd team prior to year 3 starting 

At some point we have to stop blaming the coaches 

I think it was more than his play.  Some reporters have pointed out that his failure to get vaccinated was viewed as a leadership issue by his coaches. The locker room problems the relate to his failure to take accountability also cropped up again.  

2 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I'm not sure about Reddick. Light and not particularly good against the run and I'm sure will be paid a hefty amount. I really like Bonitto or Beavers in the draft for that outside LB spot. 

I'd prefer my rushers be able to actually rush the passer and get sacks (12.5 and 11 last 2 years for Reddick). Being good against the run is just a bonus. 

10 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Lamar has an arm but has a long way to go to be an effective passer.  I do think he's improved.  I think the question is whether he can stay healthy and improve enough to just rely on his arm.  I think the odds are against that happening.  It's just as likely he never gets to the level of play he reached in his second season.  

 

7 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Yeah I think Lamar has peaked. Too much wear and tear already, and once he loses his running ability, he's in trouble. I think one of the most underrated players in the league is Mark Andrews. Guy is an absolute beast of a TE, and was finally recognized as an All Pro this year. 

So here's a question. Should a "running qb" one who looks to run and gains a large portion of his yards on the ground, be treated like a running back? Rookie contract and then move on before contract 2? 

2 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I'm not sure about Reddick. Light and not particularly good against the run and I'm sure will be paid a hefty amount. I really like Bonitto or Beavers in the draft for that outside LB spot. 

Reddick would be a costly upgrade over Avery and I think they didn't utilize Avery enough as a pass rusher to warrant the likely price.  

1 minute ago, greend said:

 

So here's a question. Should a "running qb" one who looks to run and gains a large portion of his yards on the ground, be treated like a running back? Rookie contract and then move on before contract 2? 

Just avoid drafting one in the first place, IMO. I'm not sure how many times we have to see it, but it always fails in the playoffs. Dumb waste of resources in the first place. 

1 minute ago, greend said:

 

So here's a question. Should a "running qb" one who looks to run and gains a large portion of his yards on the ground, be treated like a running back? Rookie contract and then move on before contract 2? 

That's a good question but I think the answer depends on how good his arm is. I think the mistake is giving a big payday to an unproven passer that relies on his legs.  

2 minutes ago, greend said:

 

So here's a question. Should a "running qb" one who looks to run and gains a large portion of his yards on the ground, be treated like a running back? Rookie contract and then move on before contract 2? 

I would say if they don’t show improvement in the areas that a QB should be proficient in, then yes. Accuracy, reading defenses, making good decisions, and protecting the ball.