11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Zaquandre White looks to be one of the most underrated RBs in this class.

I watched Kevin Harris, loved him, and never watched this guy for some reason.

He is 6'1'' 215 and runs with good power but also excellent elusiveness for a RB his size. He is a good pass catcher, and even runs routes from the WR position. Good pass blocker as well. What stands out the most to me is his contact balance. He is really hard to knock off his feet. He can get knocked off balance but always gets his feet back under him to keep going.

I cant really find any injury info on him. It seems he is under the radar do to minimal usage. He was recruited by Florida State. Then transferred to a JUCO. Then transferred to South Carolina where he gradually earned more time. But he has minimal tread. 

Guy looks beastly. As much as I liked Kevin Harris, this guy is a more rounded player without the back surgery like Harris had.

 

Some analysis done for him here:
 

https://phillycovercorner.com/2022/02/running-backs-elusiveness-explosiveness-and-potential-day-3-gems/

If Watson goes to Carolina, lets get Mccaffery for a year.  I think hes cheap next season

Just now, Mike31mt said:

If Watson goes to Carolina, lets get Mccaffery for a year.  I think hes cheap next season

He has played 10 games in the last 2 years, pass. 

3 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Let's just assume Watson goes to Carolina. 

With the teams ahead of us in the draft, how many would take a QB? Atlanta, Houston, Detroit, Giants seem likely with teams like Washington, Cleveland and Minnesota as possibilities. 

If we lose out on Watson/don't want him I think there are some QBs that will still go early. 

There should be plenty of high end defensive players sitting there for us in the first.

Don't forget Seattle.

4 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Some analysis done for him here:
 

https://phillycovercorner.com/2022/02/running-backs-elusiveness-explosiveness-and-potential-day-3-gems/

Interesting. When I was watching I thought- this looks like the only athlete at RB that compares to Kenneth Walker in this whole draft. Then you post this, I get down to the chart and they are right next to each other and above all others in the elusive and explosive category. 

 

Also interesting on that graph, it really makes haskins look bad. I love Haskins. I can agree with the not elusive or exlosive category for him. But I think he has just enough of both combined with the angry category that is not considered. And thats what makes him. 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

no one will ever focus on building this team around Jalen. It will always be focus on who we can bring to replace him. 

 

And people wonder why Watson doesn't want to come here.

47 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Yet your hero Howie keeps drafting guys who can not handle it.

I mean to be fair it is very hard to judge how people will handle certain situations. You can make the best guesses and assumptions at times, but until people are placed into a situation, you never will truly know.

It is like hiring someone that seems perfect for the job, but then they fail because the chemistry is not there with other employees.

4 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

And people wonder why Watson doesn't want to come here.

Watson would never compare himself to Hurts. Hurts isnt good and Watson is a top 5 QB. 

13 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

He has played 10 games in the last 2 years, pass. 

I heard his cap hit is like $7M

We have Jalen Hurts, we dont have the luxury to pass 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Watson would never compare himself to Hurts. Hurts isnt good and Watson is a top 5 QB. 

 

I'm sure he wants to come to Philadelphia where where the backup QB is always more popular than the starting QB.  This is an organization that has an awful record of stability at QB.  You had McNabb but then he was traded on Easter Sunday after taking the team to the playoffs.  Watson and other QBs who have their pick of where to go aren't running to Philadelphia for this fanbase and organization.  

The Eagles are more stable than the vast majority of NFL teams. Troll post

Maybe Hurts will leave soon for greener pastures, though. 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

I'm sure he wants to come to Philadelphia where where the backup QB is always more popular than the starting QB.  This is an organization that has an awful record of stability at QB.  You had McNabb but then he was traded on Easter Sunday after taking the team to the playoffs.  Watson and other QBs who have their pick of where to go aren't running to Philadelphia for this fanbase and organization.  

Oh ok.

12 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

And people wonder why Watson doesn't want to come here.

Watson doesn't want to come here because the fans don't want to build around Hurts?

 

Sounds like I can mark off non sequitur on my logical fallacy bingo card.

17 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Let's just assume Watson goes to Carolina. 

With the teams ahead of us in the draft, how many would take a QB? Atlanta, Houston, Detroit, Giants seem likely with teams like Washington, Cleveland and Minnesota as possibilities. 

If we lose out on Watson/don't want him I think there are some QBs that will still go early. 

There should be plenty of high end defensive players sitting there for us in the first.

SEA would be the only likely one.  
 

HOU like Davis Mills, ATL is possible but just kicked the can on Matt Ryan for another year, the Giants quite possibly, DET isn’t spending #2 on any of these guys; they’ll roll with Goff, MIN is a possibility.

WAS is also still possible, although I predicted they’d draft a QB behind Wentz based on the premise of them signing Wentz after being cut.  The fact they spent numerous picks to acquire him makes QB at #11 less likely.

I predict Watson will give the Texans a list of 2-3 teams — CAR for sure, TB probably, and SEA possibly.  I’d be very surprised if he ends up anywhere else.

Strong is a better athlete than both imo 

big fan of strong  , and he showed off at the combine . He might be my favorite back , up there with R White 

Thanks a lot @HazletonEagle

19 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Also interesting on that graph, it really makes haskins look bad. I love Haskins. I can agree with the not elusive or exlosive category for him. But I think he has just enough of both combined with the angry category that is not considered. And thats what makes him. 

I guess if you asked me if Jordan Howard was particularly explosive or elusive, I’d say not really - he knows how to follow zone blocking and grind out yards. I assume elusiveness is measured in missed tackles, but I’m not sure how yards after contact are handled (this might be discussed in the article).

No wonder this dude doesn’t have a job anymore 

 

Its good to be ranked #5 in the league.  Something to shoot for

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Grand jury not filing charges does not mean he did not do anything.  He did not do anything that was big enough that they thought it would be worth the time and money to go through a trial.  He is probably still a creep, and a bit of a perv, but how many guys in his position act the same ??  Quite a few probably.  
 

At the end of the day, these guys are not coming to my house for dinner, and not marrying my daughter.  Winning games for the Eagles is priority 1.  The team  gave Mike Vick a chance, and those who were gonna "boycott” the team got right back on board when he was winning.

IMO, what Mike Vick did is way worse than a guy having a boner and flashing it   around.  Vick and his buddies made Dogs fight for their life, and then murdered them in cruel and horrible ways when they failed, which was probably a better better then the life the ones that survived had.

What he does is an indicator of how he sees and treats other people. He put himself above others. 

early in my career an admin I worked with had a sign in her tiny cube - "the true measure of a mans worth is how he treats somebody who can do him absolutely no good.”

you may bottom line with winning. I want more. 

44 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Zaquandre White looks to be one of the most underrated RBs in this class.

I watched Kevin Harris, loved him, and never watched this guy for some reason.

He is 6'1'' 215 and runs with good power but also excellent elusiveness for a RB his size. He is a good pass catcher, and even runs routes from the WR position. Good pass blocker as well. What stands out the most to me is his contact balance. He is really hard to knock off his feet. He can get knocked off balance but always gets his feet back under him to keep going.

I cant really find any injury info on him. It seems he is under the radar do to minimal usage. He was recruited by Florida State. Then transferred to a JUCO. Then transferred to South Carolina where he gradually earned more time. But he has minimal tread. 

Guy looks beastly. As much as I liked Kevin Harris, this guy is a more rounded player without the back surgery like Harris had.

 

He's got pretty good feet for a taller guy.

Not sure if he looks like he runs higher just because he's a bit taller or he actually runs high.🤷‍♂️

 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Grand jury not filing charges does not mean he did not do anything.  He did not do anything that was big enough that they thought it would be worth the time and money to go through a trial.  He is probably still a creep, and a bit of a perv, but how many guys in his position act the same ??  Quite a few probably.  
 

At the end of the day, these guys are not coming to my house for dinner, and not marrying my daughter.  Winning games for the Eagles is priority 1.  The team  gave Mike Vick a chance, and those who were gonna "boycott” the team got right back on board when he was winning.

IMO, what Mike Vick did is way worse than a guy having a boner and flashing it   around.  Vick and his buddies made Dogs fight for their life, and then murdered them in cruel and horrible ways when they failed, which was probably a better better then the life the ones that survived had.

True, and Vick did his time paid his dues, so a bit of a different scenario.

19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No wonder this dude doesn’t have a job anymore 

So good that anyone with a pulse was a slam dunk for 80% completion and 3 TDs

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Yep.  A kid from LSU like Justin Jefferson who played on the biggest stage in college football would thrive in Philly and could handle the pressure.  Reagor clearly does not have the mental make up to play here.

Yet your hero Howie keeps drafting guys who can not handle it.

I think Roseman does a good job, but that is a fair thing to say.

And to think we almost got Ridley…