All those so-called rumors are mere speculation, people are engaged in a lot of wishful thinking when it comes to Watson.

Rumor:  reputable reporters says reliable source has told me there has been some conversations - of course, there are always conversations. So you look for something like "Serious conversation" or "preliminary negotiations."

Speculation:  internet nobody says Philadelphia is a logical destination.

La canfora says this so he clearly loves Carolina 

 

4 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Carolina, New Orleans, Seattle, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis

The remaining teams have to be Philly & Cleveland

Can Tampa Bay still get Watson, and then cut Tom Brady?

I would accept that as an early Christmas present

Interesting given the theme that you "shouldn’t spend in free agency”. Would also be good to dive deep into each team to see if there’s any other factors at play

 

 

2 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Interesting given the theme that you "shouldn’t spend in free agency”. Would also be good to dive deep into each team to see if there’s any other factors at play

They all had losing records and probably a crap-ton of cap dollars to spend.  The effect 3 years later might be interesting to analyze

Just now, Alphagrand said:

They all had losing records and probably a crap-ton of cap dollars to spend.  The effect 3 years later might be interesting to analyze

Always fun to come back to these signings. Can’t wait to visit the Christian Kirk one, should be fun lol

21 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Do you remember the off-season when Peyton was a FA?

I'll be honest... No I don't. I think that was my early days of following the sport so I don't think I delved in to much. 

Can’t believe Smith is gonna Vandervelde

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I'll be honest... No I don't. I think that was my early days of following the sport so I don't think I delved in to much. 

Peyton was very picky. If I remember right, at least 2-3 weeks passed once free agency started that offseason until Peyton finally signed with Denver

16 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Unfortunately I can’t see the league going backwards on number of playoff teams now that they have the extra revenue from an added playoff game. 

Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Interesting

Current Contract

Christian Kirk signed a 4 year, $72,000,000 contract with the Jacksonville Jaguars, including a $20,000,000 signing bonus, $37,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $18,000,000. In 2022, Kirk will earn a base salary of $1,500,000, a signing bonus of $20,000,000, a roster bonus of $500,000 and a workout bonus of $500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $7,500,000 and a dead cap value of $37,000,000.

CONTRACT TERMS:4 yr(s) / $72,000,000

SIGNING BONUS$20,000,000

AVERAGE SALARY$18,000,000

GTD AT SIGN:$37,000,000

TOTAL GTD:$37,000,000

FREE AGENT:2026 / UFA

				BONUS BREAKDOWN			CAP DETAILS		CASH DETAILS
YEAR		AGE	BASE SALARY	SIGNING	ROSTER	WORKOUT	CAP HIT	DEAD CAP	YEARLY CASH
2022		26	$1,500,000	$5,000,000	$500,000	$500,000	$7,500,000	$37,000,000	$22,500,000($22,500,000)
2023		27	$15,500,000	$5,000,000	$500,000	$500,000	$21,500,000	$30,500,000	$16,500,000($39,000,000)
POTENTIAL OUT: 2024, 2 YR, $39,000,000; $1,000,000 DEAD CAP
2024		28	$14,500,000	$5,000,000	$1,500,000	$500,000	$21,500,000	$10,000,000	$16,500,000($55,500,000)
2025		29	$15,500,000	$5,000,000	$500,000	$500,000	$21,500,000	$5,000,000	$16,500,000($72,000,000)

 

 

Looks like a two-year deal with a "so long" after 2024 with only a $1M dead cap hit -- unless Kirk plays like Julio or De'Andre for two years.

28 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Carolina is a better coach and opportunity for him

Rhule could find himself jobless next year 

29 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Hmm

 

Watson going to meet when court is on lunch break?

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Watson going to meet when court is on lunch break?

Well technically would be 345 so be supper or late lunch lol. 

28 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

@Sack that QB fat lady hasn't sung yet

Except McClain said he rejected everybody but Saints and Panthers…

So either McClain is wrong or he’s not meeting anyone else 

 

#fluid 

33 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Carolina is a better coach and opportunity for him

WUT

1 hour ago, Dwide Schrude said:

If they could draft well, then yeah. Chargers have been one of, if not the best, drafting teams of the past decade. It’s mind boggling but year after year a good player at their biggest need going into the draft naturally always falls to them. 

And they’re smart enough to draft them, imagine that!

10 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

Interesting given the theme that you "shouldn’t spend in free agency”. Would also be good to dive deep into each team to see if there’s any other factors at play

What was their collective playoff record that year?  What happened the year after?  two years after?

Not exactly a boon from what I can tell, but when you are near the bottom, no place to go but up.

 

2015 Giants 6-10. 2017 Giants 3-13.  (that's -3 over where they were the year before the spending spree)
2016 Jags 3-13. 2018 Jags 5-11 (net +2)
2017 Bears 5-11. 2019 Bears 8-8 (net +3)
2018 Jets 4-12.  2020 Jets 2-14 (net -2, which is hard to do when you start at only 4 wins)
2019 Dolphins 7-9.  2021 Dolphins 9*-8. (asterisk for the +2, as having an extra game changes the calculation)
2020 Patriots* 7-9  TBD

*artificially low due to how many sat out the Covid season.

Personally... I don't see how their spending spree did anything to actually 'build their roster' for the future.

12 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Interesting

Current Contract

Christian Kirk signed a 4 year, $72,000,000 contract with the Jacksonville Jaguars, including a $20,000,000 signing bonus, $37,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $18,000,000. In 2022, Kirk will earn a base salary of $1,500,000, a signing bonus of $20,000,000, a roster bonus of $500,000 and a workout bonus of $500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $7,500,000 and a dead cap value of $37,000,000.

CONTRACT TERMS:4 yr(s) / $72,000,000

SIGNING BONUS$20,000,000

AVERAGE SALARY$18,000,000

GTD AT SIGN:$37,000,000

TOTAL GTD:$37,000,000

FREE AGENT:2026 / UFA

				BONUS BREAKDOWN			CAP DETAILS		CASH DETAILS
YEAR		AGE	BASE SALARY	SIGNING	ROSTER	WORKOUT	CAP HIT	DEAD CAP	YEARLY CASH
2022		26	$1,500,000	$5,000,000	$500,000	$500,000	$7,500,000	$37,000,000	$22,500,000($22,500,000)
2023		27	$15,500,000	$5,000,000	$500,000	$500,000	$21,500,000	$30,500,000	$16,500,000($39,000,000)
POTENTIAL OUT: 2024, 2 YR, $39,000,000; $1,000,000 DEAD CAP
2024		28	$14,500,000	$5,000,000	$1,500,000	$500,000	$21,500,000	$10,000,000	$16,500,000($55,500,000)
2025		29	$15,500,000	$5,000,000	$500,000	$500,000	$21,500,000	$5,000,000	$16,500,000($72,000,000)

 

 

Looks like a two-year deal with a "so long" after 2024 with only a $1M dead cap hit -- unless Kirk plays like Julio or De'Andre for two years.

That math doesn't add up.  The $10M in prorated signing bonus would hit in 2024.  They missed a '0'.  

But, even so... 2 years and $39M... is he a $20M/year player?   

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Except McClain said he rejected everybody but Saints and Panthers…

So either McClain is wrong or he’s not meeting anyone else 

 

#fluid 

Is that even debatable?

🤮. Just saw an ad showing Alex Smith's leg since the surgery and recovery.   Wow!    

18 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Exactly. 

How does everyone feel about Howell? Just curious.