Procus Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 C'mon - it's pretty clear. Should have left Reid in charge completely of football operations, and quietly steered him as needed from time to time to better meet team goals. 2012 was a storm with the death of Andy's son, and then all those injuries on the OL. It was an outlier. Eagles could have given Andy a sabbatical to reinvent himself and the team. Looking back, as Jimmy Johnson once said about Reid - appreciate what you have. Eagles will never be able to duplicate what they had with Big Red. Should have rode that horse into the sunset - warts and all. 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Shiznit Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 It does feel that way sometimes, to be honest, but it's still an unknown as to how he would have done if he had stayed. On the other hand, we know that firing him started the dominoes that won us a Lombardi. Could we have won one with him? Maybe, but we can't say for sure. So bird in hand... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Not completely sure we have our Super Bowl if we did. We both needed a change of scenery. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Next_Up Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Procus said: C'mon - it's pretty clear. Should have left Reid in charge completely of football operations, and quietly steered him as needed from time to time to better meet team goals. 2012 was a storm with the death of Andy's son, and then all those injuries on the OL. It was an outlier. Eagles could have given Andy a sabbatical to reinvent himself and the team. Looking back, as Jimmy Johnson once said about Reid - appreciate what you have. Eagles will never be able to duplicate what they had with Big Red. Should have rode that horse into the sunset - warts and all. Can we change this to "Eagles should have drafted Mahomes and Hill" Reid needed a change of scenery. He could not get it done with his QB here. He knows how to use talent and is a good coach. And, they were lucky to win yesterday. Squib kick that burns 3 seconds could have changed the outcome and we would all be saying, "There's old Andy, the bridesmaid again" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyEaglez Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Reid miscalculated on Kevin Kolb, and then he relied on an injury prone Mike Vick. The other death nil for Reid was his coaching staff at the end was completely a dysfunctional mess. Reid needed to get out of here with his son dying at training camp and the other in and out of jail. Both sides needed the change. With all that being the case I’d rather have Andy than Howie. I feel like with everything that was happening with Reid’s children Howie swooped in and took over a lot of Andy’s power. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315Eagles Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 You're right that they won't be able to duplicate going to multiple NFCCG and coming up short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perforator Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Next_Up said: Can we change this to "Eagles should have drafted Mahomes and Hill" Reid needed a change of scenery. He could not get it done with his QB here. He knows how to use talent and is a good coach. And, they were lucky to win yesterday. Squib kick that burns 3 seconds could have changed the outcome and we would all be saying, "There's old Andy, the bridesmaid again" Andy chokes in the Conference Championship game. What is he 2 and 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Perforator said: Andy chokes in the Conference Championship game. What is he 2 and 7? 3-5. 1 win with us and 2 with KC now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perforator Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: 3-5. 1 win with us and 2 with KC now. he was 1 and 5 with us and didnt he lose one or two with the QB he had before Mahomes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Vagabond Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 He made Juan Castillo, his DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!! /thread. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2rock Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Andy has the benefit of a bright young talent evaluator (Veach) to work with and they seem to work in lock step together. We have … Howie. And he often does his own thing ignoring everyone else. Andy also has a much better coaching staff now than what we had toward the end of his tenure here (it was great in the early years). I was always a Reid fan but it was time to move on. Just happy for him to finally experience the feeling of winning it all after so many misses here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToHell Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Holy Vagabond said: He made Juan Castillo, his DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!! /thread. Still a better option than Gannon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-1000 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Complete and total revisionist history. He was done here, completely burned out. He needed a change of scenery and new start elsewhere. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaff Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 No. I’m a huge Andy Reid fan, but it was obvious both sides needed a fresh start. Assuming that he would have had the same future success here with all the pressure and baggage that had built up, is illogical. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, Perforator said: he was 1 and 5 with us and didnt he lose one or two with the QB he had before Mahomes He was 1-4 with us. With KC, you could be right that he lost an AFCCG with Smith but if he did, the exact game slips my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Eagle Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Should have drafted Mahomes, etc. This argument doesn’t work. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perforator Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: He was 1-4 with us. With KC, you could be right that he lost an AFCCG with Smith but if he did, the exact game slips my mind. Wrong, 2001-2004 and 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTW Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 It was time for a change for both parties. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hputenis Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Dumb topic. Everyone wanted Reid gone, and if you didn't, you weren't watching. His message had become stale, and he was terrible his last season here. It was time to move on for both parties. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglePhan1986 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The Dream Team crap did it for me. 5 minutes ago, hputenis said: Dumb topic. Everyone wanted Reid gone, and if you didn't, you weren't watching. His message had become stale, and he was terrible his last season here. It was time to move on for both parties. In his defense, they were killed by injuries that year but his ultimate undoing was making Juan Castillo the DC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hputenis Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said: The Dream Team crap did it for me. In his defense, they were killed by injuries that year but his ultimate undoing was making Juan Castillo the DC. That was unbelievable. Wasn't the top story in the Inquirer that morning titled, "WTF?" 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochis_Calhoun Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 He'd run his course in Philly, and by the end he was just throwing staff under the bus, McDermott was given no chance, then he hired and fired Castillo as DC, eventually the buck had to stop with Andy because the team was quitting on him and his family issues were out of control. KC is a lot better run than the Eagles, they have a great scouting team and a GM that listens to them, and he has a good staff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perforator Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Did anyone else think the mask he wore on the sidelines looked like a feeding trough? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB52 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I was as pro-Reid as anyone on the boards at the time, but by the end Reid’s time in Philly had run it’s course. The family troubles and Kevin Kolb busting really took its toll on he and the team. Andy the person needed a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 37 minutes ago, Perforator said: Wrong, 2001-2004 and 2008. Yes, that’s 5 total seasons which matches the record I gave. He won one conference title game and lost 4. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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