1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

OJ murdered Ron Goldman Nicole Brown Simpson out of rage.

Pretty much says in his book that when Goldman got down in a karate stance he lost it.

FFS I almost forgot he wrote a book about how he did it.  What a ****.

1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Boggles my mind.  They absolutely should have their day in court, I just don’t see how they can claim self defense. 
And how did it take so long to bring charges against them?  But then I remembered, this is Georgia, where 17 year old Genarlow Wilson was sentenced to 10 years in prison for receiving oral sex from a 15 year old girl. 

 

Just read up on that one. Glad he didn't have to serve the 10 years

Just now, DEagle7 said:

FFS I almost forgot he wrote a book about how he did it.  What a ****.

It’s literally called If I Did It.

 

20 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

No, they are not.  When someone stops you armed with a shotgun, you have no choice but to assume they mean you harm.   I mean, what kind of nonsense is this?  I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here.

So basically what this logic is saying, is that when a criminal wants to mug someone, all they have to do is lie to the victim and tell them they are performing a citizens arrest and the cops are on the way, so stand there with their hands up, and if the victim tries to fight them for their weapon, and the mugger kills them, the mugger is actually free to go and can claim self defense since he told the victim he was performing a citizens arrest. 
 

Trust me.  In court. The details will be critical

7 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

Trust me.  In court. The details will be critical

And how do you think they are going to get those details?

The victim is dead.

I guess we should just take the murderers’ word for what happened, right?

 

9 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

And how do you think they are going to get those details?

The victim is dead.

I guess we should just take the murderers’ word for what happened, right?

 

Pretty sure there were other witnesses, including the guy who was filming the incident.

46 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Of course they deserve all due process under the law, but if they get away with this, I put it on par with OJ.

So you think two dudes who were most likely trying to make a citizen's arrest that went wrong are on par with a dude who killed two people including his ex-wife in a fit of rage?

To be clear, I'm not condoning making citizen's arrests.

31 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

And how do you think they are going to get those details?

The victim is dead.

I guess we should just take the murderers’ word for what happened, right?

 

Thats where the investigators earn their money.  
 

you have 2 assailants. Makes it easier to get the story right if you play them against each other.  

31 minutes ago, Kz! said:

So you think two dudes who were most likely trying to make a citizen's arrest that went wrong are on par with a dude who killed two people including his ex-wife in a fit of rage?

To be clear, I'm not condoning making citizen's arrests.

I dont even know why oj is even in the discussion.  Totally different situations in almost every possible way. 
 

zimmerman is a better comparison if any. 
 

one thing both zimm and this and sooo many other murders have in common is if cooler heads prevailed nobody would have to die

and lastly, never come to a gun fight with nothing.  The odds are horrible. 
 

if some hillbilly (or anyone else)  has a shot gun on me ill lay face down spread eagle on the street and comply until the police show up and cuff me and start asking questions.  Then i will go home.  

25 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

Thats where the investigators earn their money.  
 

you have 2 assailants. Makes it easier to get the story right if you play them against each other.  

Didn't it take a month to get them arrested. Sounds like plenty of time to get their stories straight

20 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

I dont even know why oj is even in the discussion.  Totally different situations in almost every possible way. 
 

zimmerman is a better comparison if any. 
 

one thing both zimm and this and sooo many other murders have in common is if cooler heads prevailed nobody would have to die

and lastly, never come to a gun fight with nothing.  The odds are horrible. 
 

if some hillbilly (or anyone else)  has a shot gun on me ill lay face down spread eagle on the street and comply until the police show up and cuff me and start asking questions.  Then i will go home.  

The victims didn't have a choice of bringing nothing to a gun fight in both situations

And if you twitched and they shot and killed you because they thought you were reaching for a gun?

They should have let the cops deal with it.

1 hour ago, SNOORDA said:

Trust me.  In court. The details will be critical

No, they won’t.  Again, using your logic, Any mugger could go up to someone, claim they are performing a citizens arrest, and if the victim fights back, shoot them and claim self defense.  

50 minutes ago, Kz! said:

So you think two dudes who were most likely trying to make a citizen's arrest that went wrong are on par with a dude who killed two people including his ex-wife in a fit of rage?

To be clear, I'm not condoning making citizen's arrests.

Yeah, once again, in order to perform a citizens arrest, you need to have witnessed the crime or have immediate knowledge that a crime was committed.  Neither of which apply to their situation. So the citizens arrest defense goes out the window.

3 hours ago, SNOORDA said:

if some hillbilly (or anyone else)  has a shot gun on me ill lay face down spread eagle on the street and comply until the police show up and cuff me and start asking questions.  Then i will go home.  

 I know who I’m robbing if I’m ever in LA. Sorry making a citizens arrest. 

6 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

 I know who I’m robing if I’m ever in LA.

What if he's already dressed?

3 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

No, they are not.  When someone stops you armed with a shotgun, you have no choice but to assume they mean you harm.   I mean, what kind of nonsense is this?  I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here.

So basically what this logic is saying, is that when a criminal wants to mug someone, all they have to do is lie to the victim and tell them they are performing a citizens arrest and the cops are on the way, so stand there with their hands up, and if the victim tries to fight them for their weapon, and the mugger kills them, the mugger is actually free to go and can claim self defense since he told the victim he was performing a citizens arrest. 
 

Yeah if someone points a weapon at me they are going to eat it.  I'm probably the biggest 2A guy on here and this was not at all a legal self defense shooting.

4 minutes ago, Bill said:

Yeah if someone points a weapon at me they are going to eat it.  I'm probably the biggest 2A guy on here and this was not at all a legal self defense shooting.

Yeah this is absolutely baffling to me.  The person who is stopping the other person in their path of travel with a shotgun out is the aggressor.  The person going for a jog who has a gun pulled on them is the person entitled to the use of deadly force in the name of self defense.   Had Arbery been armed he’d be absolutely in his right to pull out his weapon and kill McMichael in self defense.

What the F is going on here??????

52 minutes ago, Mlodj said:

What if he's already dressed?

 

7 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

 

"Never gonna give you up" is on in the background and is sync'd perfectly with Danny there  

3 hours ago, Kz! said:

So you think two dudes who were most likely trying to make a citizen's arrest that went wrong are on par with a dude who killed two people including his ex-wife in a fit of rage?

To be clear, I'm not condoning making citizen's arrests.

Not the crime, the amount of ridiculousness if an innocent plea is reached. 

5 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Just read up on that one. Glad he didn't have to serve the 10 years

It’s a crazy story. Still ruined his life and they even tried to keep him in jail after the law was changed.

 

He's out there rapping? That's a weird location but I mean he's allowed to do it. That one cop was too quick to use his taser. Good thing it was just the taser though

Wasn't smart to walk up to the cop like that

lmao, yeah looked like pretty shoddy police work. He just stood there when the taser malfunctioned like wtf?

11 hours ago, Kz! said:

 

Cop: I tried to tase him, I could see he had a wallet or something. 
 

having a wallet is grounds for being tased. Good to know. 

11 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

He's out there rapping? That's a weird location but I mean he's allowed to do it. That one cop was too quick to use his taser. Good thing it was just the taser though

Wasn't smart to walk up to the cop like that

The cop with the body cam we watch on seemed alright for the most part but the reason for stopping him seems bad. I never liked cops stopping or searching people because it’s a high drug use/selling area. But with all the cuts in that clip it’s hard to tell 100 percent what happened. 

14 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Yeah this is absolutely baffling to me.  The person who is stopping the other person in their path of travel with a shotgun out is the aggressor.  The person going for a jog who has a gun pulled on them is the person entitled to the use of deadly force in the name of self defense.   Had Arbery been armed he’d be absolutely in his right to pull out his weapon and kill McMichael in self defense.

What the F is going on here??????

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