June 27, 20224 yr 6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The same can be said about sperm or an egg alone. If either were found in a petri dish they'd be classified as life. By the broad definition being presented a sperm or unfertilized egg is a human being at an earlier stage of development. A zygote is at a later stage. But like an unfertilized egg or sperm, it still requires many additional steps before it's considered a conscious human infant. But scientifically it's rightly viewed as just one more step in the development of a fetus. Because of any step in the process fails .. if the sperm is inert or sterile, or the egg is defective, or it doesn't attach to the uterine lining, or any other number of steps, then it fails to develope. Calling it a person before consciousness isn't scientific or fact based, it's a feeling one has. As the father of three, I fully understand it. We had a Doppler and listened excitedly to the heartbeats of all of our kids long before the first ultrasound. But putting emotions aside, which is required for laws in a free and open society, it's clear that if nothing else there is no scientific or societal consensus on the status of a fetus in the first say 15 weeks. The only right thing to do in the face of that is to err to the side of individual choice and let each family unit make the decision that's right for them. The state should have no right to deny these choices based on the opinions of a minority (given that most believe abortion should be available at least through 15 weeks). Ehhhh not really. When sperm meets egg and is fertilized and becomes a zygote a new set of DNA is formed providing the blueprint for that unique person’s human development. It’s not a unique human or individual before that.
June 27, 20224 yr 9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Edit: Not sure why Roberts has the beard. To quote Joe "Com’on” the Taliban really ! The judicial model for the world.
June 27, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: I thought life began when a person becomes a net tax contributor. I think it's when a net tax contributor is aroused by another net tax contributor.
June 27, 20224 yr 15 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: Ehhhh not really. When sperm meets egg and is fertilized and becomes a zygote a new set of DNA is formed providing the blueprint for that unique person’s human development. It’s not a unique human or individual before that. a zygote is not a unique human or individual either. it's just a zygote with some DNA to instruct it on how to get to being a human.
June 27, 20224 yr 14 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: a zygote is not a unique human or individual either. it's just a zygote with some DNA to instruct it on how to get to being a human. It’s absolutely a unique human. Science defines it as such as well. It’s classified as a **** sapien at its first stage of development.
June 27, 20224 yr 37 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Life begins at arousal. that's a heluva T-shirt, get to copywriting.
June 27, 20224 yr 37 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: I thought life began when a person becomes a net tax contributor. I will agree to this
June 27, 20224 yr All these arguments over 10 or 20+ weeks just proves women take forever making a decision...like when we are hungry waiting for them to decide at a restaurant.
June 27, 20224 yr If life begins at fertilization, and a zygote is a unique human, then IVF clinics have been murdering millions of humans when they dispose of unused embryos.
June 27, 20224 yr A human life begins at conception and that's scientific fact. Stop arguing and playing semantics to make yourself feel better about abortion.
June 28, 20224 yr Looks like the governor of South Dakota has no intention of allowing rape victims to get an abortion. Takes a real garbage human being to support such things.
June 28, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Looks like the governor of South Dakota has no intention of allowing rape victims to get an abortion. Takes a real garbage human being to support such things. If the people of South Dakota disagree he won't survive the next election. The plus side to "state rights" is that the state politicians don't get to hide in or behind DC.
June 28, 20224 yr 14 minutes ago, lynched1 said: If the people of South Dakota disagree he won't survive the next election. The plus side to "state rights" is that the state politicians don't get to hide in or behind DC. She*
June 28, 20224 yr 16 minutes ago, Paul852 said: She* You checked? 🤔 None the less I find this new emphasis appealing.
June 28, 20224 yr 5 hours ago, DrPhilly said: yes, it is alive BUT not yet a viable human Can the fetus feel pain?
June 28, 20224 yr 13 hours ago, Mike31mt said: A human life begins at conception and that's scientific fact. Stop arguing and playing semantics to make yourself feel better about abortion. So when does human life end, scientifically?
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