June 28, 20223 yr Just now, Toastrel said: Which does not change the facts. Well it explains the existence of the Dixiecrats. New parties don’t usually just spring out nowhere in this country.
June 28, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: The party split because the national party supported civil rights in the 1948 election. The Democrats have a very long and complicated history, they have been many different things over the years. But they were always a Southern party up until Roosevelt & Truman. Even after that you have a ~30 yr. phasing out of the Southern racist wing. The last time Democrats used their southern roots was the 90's with Bill Clinton and those roots are now thoroughly dead.
June 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said: so cliff notes.. depending on the argument you can change which science you want to believe that day, or ignore all the science. backs up my point Actually, science is not a belief structure. You can ignore say, gravity, but this will not help you when you fall.
June 28, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: so cliff notes.. depending on the argument you can change which science you want to believe that day, or ignore all the science. backs up my point Your point being that you have no idea how science works or functions
June 28, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Still tough to believe how awful some of these trigger laws are. Not sure what the hell these morons were thinking when they rushed these through. Even if they try to amend them and include exceptions, the damage is largely already done. First impressions are everything and this is going to provide years and years of free ammo for the dems. They were thinking it was just virtue signalling. They figured Roe was never going to be overturned so they could milk it for political capital forever. McConnell knows the dog caught the car with this.
June 28, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: You literally just told that depending on the situation they will choose which scientific category that want to believe in. YOUR WORDS Just now, Bacarty2 said: Social science says gravity doesnt exist so the left will have lawsuits against every company to make sure they have soft floors. Lol, exactly my point. You have no clue. Social science has nothing to do with gravity. Science doesn't deal with beliefs of you or I, it deals with facts, and then tries to explain, through testable explanations why stuff works as it does. So, for your earlier example of gender, the facts are there are two reproductive organs in humans, penii and vagines. Some (hermies) have both. This is fact, and irrefutable. Nothing to see here. In psychology, which is a science, even if you don't understand it, there are shades of gray. Some people don't feel like they are a man, even though they have a P. Some don't feel like they're a woman, even though they have a vagine. Yes, physically they are what they are, but mentally, they feel different. So psychology attempts to figure out the why. I am not a psych, and I am not well versed in the study of gender and why certain people feel this way. But the science side tries to figure out why certain people feel that way. Much as your infantile brain wants things to be black and white, there's a whole spectrum of colours out there, and it has nothing to do with "beliefs"
June 28, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: Social science says gravity doesnt exist so the left will have lawsuits against every company to make sure they have soft floors. When you are done inside your ahole, pull your head out. I don't want to talk to you, but that can't be healthy.
June 28, 20223 yr Just now, Bacarty2 said: so again, for the 15th Fing time because apparently you cant read Because it doesnt fit one type of science, they chose to ignore it, and look upon social science. but then on another topic, they will revert back to a different form of science. They don't ignore it you dolt. The scientific method is as such: Observation/question (we observe there are people who mentally identify as something other than their physical gender) Research area (Psychology) Hypothesis (No idea honestly as not a psych, but to hazard a guess I'd say people with gender "issues" may have some prior psych issues) Test with experiment (you talk to these people, get their history, find out if there's a common link between them) Analyze data (Pretty straightforward) Report conclusions (So let's say for example 90% of ppl with gender issues have a common story of abuse at an early age, perhaps this is an indicator of future issues? Again I don't know enough about this field of study, I'm just using a very general example) And then you start over again. Until you have enough data to form a proper scientific theory. Psychologists aren't ignoring the physical science, they have nothing to do with it. Sometimes sciences overlap each other, sometimes they don't. I'm sorry, I guess this is just too complex of an issue for you to grasp.
June 28, 20223 yr Just now, Bacarty2 said: depends what science you believe in, if you believe in science at all Haha. This fool can't science for ish!
June 28, 20223 yr Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. -Jean-Paul Sartre Basically sums up Bacarty
June 28, 20223 yr Quote (Reuters) -A Texas judge on Tuesday blocked officials from enforcing a dormant 1925 abortion ban that the state's Republican attorney general said was back in effect after the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to the procedure nationwide. The temporary restraining order by Judge Christine Weems in Harris County came in a last-ditch bid by abortion providers to resume services after the U.S. Supreme Court on Friday overturned the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that guaranteed the right of women to obtain abortions.
June 28, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Dave Moss said: GOP in the 1980s: the Dems will let people out of prison who will rape you GOP in 2020s: you must have your rapist’s baby Better keep the rapists in prison then and scrap the democrats retarded "criminal justice reform.” https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/man-freed-thanks-to-bail-reform-then-busted-for-rape-shows-what-lawmakers-got-wrong/amp/
June 28, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said: In psychology, which is a science, even if you don't understand it, there are shades of gray. Some people don't feel like they are a man, even though they have a P. Some don't feel like they're a woman, even though they have a vagine What is a "man"? What is a "woman"?
June 28, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: What is a "man"? What is a "woman"? I honestly don't know enough to say why some people feel they are a "man" or a "woman". But they're out there, trying to figure it out as well. For me it's simple enough, I have a P, and see myself as a man. Other people have more complicated stories.
June 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said: I honestly don't know enough to say why some people feel they are a "man" or a "woman". But they're out there, trying to figure it out as well. For me it's simple enough, I have a P, and see myself as a man. Other people have more complicated stories. "More complicated stories" is code for "mental illness" in this sentence, correct?
June 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: "More complicated stories" is code for "mental illness" in this sentence, correct? I don't see them as "ill"....they've lived a different life than me, and they're trying to find their way. I hope they do.
June 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said: I honestly don't know enough to say why some people feel they are a "man" or a "woman". But they're out there, trying to figure it out as well. For me it's simple enough, I have a P, and see myself as a man. Other people have more complicated stories. This is a fundamental problem with the entire topic. If we can't define the terms then they have zero meaning. Perhaps it might make sense to use some terms (say "female" and "male") to denote biological gender and just leave it at that. Remove the entire concept of non physical attributes from any discussion of gender. At this point, I'd be fine with that solution. Just get rid of the terms woman/women and man/men all together from a formal perspective.
June 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said: I don't see them as "ill"....they've lived a different life than me, and they're trying to find their way. I hope they do. Yeah, men have **** and women have vaginas. Sorry, bro, I know you're running for wokest CVON poster, and you're putting up a really strong effort, but Dave Moss already posts here. You're still going to have to up your game.
June 28, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said: I don't see them as "ill"....they've lived a different life than me, and they're trying to find their way. I hope they do. It seems sort of strange for a person to so adamantly describe themselves as say a "woman" yet be completely unable/unwilling to even attempt to produce a description of what that term means.
June 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: This is a fundamental problem with the entire topic. If we can't define the terms then they have zero meaning. Perhaps it might make sense to use some terms (say "female" and "male") to denote biological gender and just leave it at that. Remove the entire concept of non physical attributes from any discussion of gender. At this point, I'd be fine with that solution. Just get rid of the terms woman/women and man/men all together from a formal perspective. I guess I would ask why is it a problem? How you define yourself, and how I define myself, don't have anything to do with how others see themselves. And I think physical attributes are inextricably linked with the gender discussion. And really, the whole thing wouldn't be a problem if people like Kz there weren't such uptight **** who refuse to acknowledge differences in the world.
June 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: It seems sort of strange for a person to so adamantly describe themselves as say a "woman" yet be completely unable/unwilling to even attempt to produce a description of what that term means. Again, that's up to that individual to figure out. It has no effect on my life if Jane down the street thinks of herself as a man. That's her/his? story to figure out.
June 28, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said: I don't see them as "ill"....they've lived a different life than me, and they're trying to find their way. I hope they do. Would you see someone as mentally I’ll if they had body dysmorphia and felt compelled to amputate their arms and legs? Of course you would. We’d all sit there and think the person has a serious mental condition that needs be treated, because they do. But now we have to pretend like trannies aren’t mentally ill, even as they engage in genital mutilation, irreversible hormone treatment, and nearly half attempt to commit suicide. And the worst part is we know that roughly half of all trannies have a diagnosed mental health disorder, but we won’t even begin to approach the issue from that very obvious starting point because of woke politics. https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/trgh.2019.0029
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