Is 17 years old too late?  Asking for a friend and parent of a kid that wrecked my the parent's car last week.

3 for 3 awful claims from WI Republican reps: 1) Pregnant women are comparable to cattle; 2) Unverified claims, citing Bible scripture as fact; 3) ignorance

On 12/18/2023 at 10:12 AM, jsdarkstar said:

Women arrested after having a miscarriage. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-woman-criminally-charged-miscarriage-194729759.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Ohio was in the throes of a bitter debate over abortion rights this fall when Brittany Watts, 21 weeks and 5 days pregnant, began passing thick blood clots.

The 33-year-old Watts, who had not shared the news of her pregnancy even with her family, made her first prenatal visit to a doctor’s office behind Mercy Health-St. Joseph’s Hospital in Warren, a working-class city about 60 miles southeast of Cleveland.

The doctor said that, while a fetal heartbeat was still present, Watts’ water had broken prematurely and the fetus she was carrying would not survive. He advised heading to the hospital to have her labor induced, so she could have what amounted to an abortion to deliver the nonviable fetus. Otherwise, she would face "significant risk” of death, according to records of her case.

That was a Tuesday in September. What followed was a harrowing three days entailing: multiple trips to the hospital; Watts miscarrying into, and then flushing and plunging, a toilet at her home; a police investigation of those actions; and Watts, who is Black, being charged with abuse of a corpse. That’s a fifth-degree felony punishable by up to a year in prison and a $2,500 fine.

Is there a question as to whether the prospective child was aborted, as to say, killed if the abortion happened inside the womb, versus allowed to die if the labor was induced early and the child was unable to survive outside the womb?  Wouldn’t the question then be either gross neglect (manslaughter) versus unlawful termination of a pregnancy?

7 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Is there a question as to whether the prospective child was aborted, as to say, killed if the abortion happened inside the womb, versus allowed to die if the labor was induced early and the child was unable to survive outside the womb?  Wouldn’t the question then be either gross neglect (manslaughter) versus unlawful termination of a pregnancy?

She is being charged with abuse of a corpse, which I don’t necessarily have a problem with, but I don’t what she did should be a felony. 

Before they overturned RvW, I was fine with ban on late term abortions unless there were health issues. Now doctors are afraid to make medical decisions because they fear going to jail. The woman charged with abusing a corpse shouldn’t have had to wait three days and the woman in Texas shouldn’t have had to jump through the hoops she did. 

These stats are unbelievably sad.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/64-000-pregnancies-caused-by-rape-have-occurred-in-states-with-a-total-abortion-ban-new-study-estimates/

Just remember, this was predicted to happen.  It was only a matter of time.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/university-alabama-pauses-ivf-services-court-rules-embryos-are-childre-rcna139846

 

2 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Just remember, this was predicted to happen.  It was only a matter of time.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/university-alabama-pauses-ivf-services-court-rules-embryos-are-childre-rcna139846

 

I'm sure everyone who said we were overreacting by bringing up IVF clinics after the Dobbs decision will now come back and eat crow. Any minute now...

I think we should just let the south secede, maybe give Texas back to Mexico.

20 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm sure everyone who said we were overreacting by bringing up IVF clinics after the Dobbs decision will now come back and eat crow. Any minute now...

My Niece would not exist without it. The governement wants to control women's bodies. Soon they will try to eliminate their right to vote.

22 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

My Niece would not exist without it. The governement wants to control women's bodies. Soon they will try to eliminate their right to vote.

Seems like the far right wants to emulate radical Muslim teachings.  Full circle.  What a joke.

45 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

My Niece would not exist without it. The governement wants to control women's bodies. Soon they will try to eliminate their right to vote.

Live look at TEW:

Senate GOP group urges campaigns to come out swinging against Alabama IVF ruling

Driving the news: The Senate Republican campaign arm sent a memo to candidates Friday morning, urging them to "clearly and concisely reject efforts by the government to restrict IVF," or in vitro fertilization, according to a copy obtained by Axios.

It called the Alabama ruling "fodder for Democrats hoping to manipulate the abortion issue for electoral gain."

"There are zero Republican Senate candidates who support efforts to restrict access to fertility treatments."

One senior GOP aide told Axios that anyone not speaking out on the ruling would be committing "political malpractice."

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/23/senate-republicans-campaign-alabama-ivf-ruling

 

6 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Senate GOP group urges campaigns to come out swinging against Alabama IVF ruling

Driving the news: The Senate Republican campaign arm sent a memo to candidates Friday morning, urging them to "clearly and concisely reject efforts by the government to restrict IVF," or in vitro fertilization, according to a copy obtained by Axios.

It called the Alabama ruling "fodder for Democrats hoping to manipulate the abortion issue for electoral gain."

"There are zero Republican Senate candidates who support efforts to restrict access to fertility treatments."

One senior GOP aide told Axios that anyone not speaking out on the ruling would be committing "political malpractice."

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/23/senate-republicans-campaign-alabama-ivf-ruling

 

Yep now Trump is trying to walk it back. Even they know how bad they F'ed this up.

 

🤣🤣🤣

1 hour ago, lynched1 said:

🤣🤣🤣

Laugh all you want.  The party has become a complete joke.  Dems will control both houses and the White House  in January.

 

6 hours ago, barho said:

Laugh all you want.  The party has become a complete joke.  Dems will control both houses and the White House  in January.

 

Damn right I'm going to laugh my *** off.

I'd love to read what the hell you think you'd get out of the deal. 🤣

11 hours ago, lynched1 said:

Damn right I'm going to laugh my *** off.

I'd love to read what the hell you think you'd get out of the deal. 🤣

Considering I work in renewables and am making far more than I have my entire life, quite a bit actually.  

1 hour ago, barho said:

Considering I work in renewables and am making far more than I have my entire life, quite a bit 

Congratulations.

On the other hand this is the internet. You can be anyone. 😉

1 hour ago, barho said:

...I work in renewables...

On 1/25/2024 at 12:39 PM, Shepard Wong said:

Is 17 years old too late?  Asking for a friend and parent of a kid that wrecked my the parent's car last week.

My daughter came home from college for Thanksgiving and managed to total her car.  Which had been sitting in the driveway - we didn’t let her take it to school.  Fun times.

I used the check from the insurance company to pay my property taxes…

 

On 1/25/2024 at 12:39 PM, Shepard Wong said:

Is 17 years old too late?  Asking for a friend and parent of a kid that wrecked my the parent's car last week.

Nope

I gotta be honest - I don’t get the IVF thing.  Why are people against it?

8 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

 

BS.

Despite warnings 50 years were allowed to pass and nothing got done. Why? 

The abortion issue was more profitable as an election/camaign scare tactic than codifying the ruling as a law. Notice the only topic currently is IFV?

That's because abortion isn't polling high enough.