February 25, 20242 yr It's a scientific fact that human life begins at conception. That's not an opinion or something I just "think," that's literally the definition of the word and an absolute reality.
February 25, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: It's a scientific fact that human life begins at conception. That's not an opinion or something I just "think," that's literally the definition of the word and an absolute reality. You think frozen embryos are people?
February 26, 20242 yr 23 hours ago, Dave Moss said: My daughter came home from college for Thanksgiving and managed to total her car. Which had been sitting in the driveway - we didn’t let her take it to school. Fun times. I used the check from the insurance company to pay my property taxes… Biden's America: where a liberal dad has to commit insurance fraud with his college age daughter to pay taxes.
February 26, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Biden's America: where a liberal dad has to commit insurance fraud with his college age daughter to pay taxes. I know you're joking but that's not fraud. When an insurance company totals a car and issues payment for the value of the vehicle, you are not obligated to use that money to replace the vehicle. Even if it's not totaled and they issue a payment for repair of the vehicle, you are not obligated to make those repairs, assuming their isn't a lienholder that would require it.
February 26, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Shepard Wong said: I know you're joking but that's not fraud. When an insurance company totals a car and issues payment for the value of the vehicle, you are not obligated to use that money to replace the vehicle. Even if it's not totaled and they issue a payment for repair of the vehicle, you are not obligated to make those repairs, assuming their isn't a lienholder that would require it. Oh I know. Facts aren't necessary when you're peddling a political narrative, especially one for the right lately.
February 27, 20242 yr On 2/25/2024 at 5:39 PM, Mike31mt said: It's a scientific fact that human life begins at conception. That's not an opinion or something I just "think," that's literally the definition of the word and an absolute reality. There’s a difference between something being classified as "life” and something being given the legal protections of a person. Sperm cells are technically alive. That doesn’t mean that if a man ****es that he’s just committed murder….
February 27, 20242 yr 39 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: There’s a difference between something being classified as "life” and something being given the legal protections of a person. Sperm cells are technically alive. That doesn’t mean that if a man ****es that he’s just committed murder…. I agree with your point, but the fact remains that it is a human life and conception is when human life begins. A sperm cell is not a human life.
February 27, 20242 yr 59 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Toastrel again with the dumbest post of the thread It's literally a living human embryo.
February 27, 20242 yr 10 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Toastrel again with the dumbest post of the thread It's literally a living human embryo. So IVF clinics have been killing millions of babies and have gotten away with it this whole time? Is that right?
February 27, 20242 yr 18 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Toastrel again with the dumbest post of the thread It's literally a living human embryo. Facts are tough for you. Yes, I agree. It is an embryo. Embryos are not people. Except in Alabama, where nitwits like you foam at the mouth.
February 27, 20242 yr 20 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: So IVF clinics have been killing millions of babies and have gotten away with it this whole time? Is that right? Not babies. We've been over this a million times. If you guys are going to be intentionally stupid and play semantics then this is a pointless conversation. As usual with you
February 27, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Facts are tough for you. Yes, I agree. It is an embryo. Embryos are not people. Except in Alabama, where nitwits like you foam at the mouth. Facts: human embryos are human lives Toastrel: embryos aren't human lives you're so Stoopid! Derp!
February 27, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Not babies. We've been over this a million times. If you guys are going to be intentionally stupid and play semantics then this is a pointless conversation. As usual with you Ok so they've killed millions of "human lives"? Committing large scale murder right under our noses this whole time and you never bothered to mention it till now?
February 27, 20242 yr 13 hours ago, Mike31mt said: I agree with your point, but the fact remains that it is a human life and conception is when human life begins. A sperm cell is not a human life. So do you think IVF should be banned then?
February 27, 20242 yr 12 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I would expect this will pass easily. Then again, I didn't actually think Roe would've been overturned either so who the F knows what can happen when so much of the south is run by these fundamentalist nutjobs who think Democrats are literal demons and Trump was sent by God to save America.
February 27, 20242 yr 10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I would expect this will pass easily. Then again, I didn't actually think Roe would've been overturned either so who the F knows what can happen when so much of the south is run by these fundamentalist nutjobs who think Democrats are literal demons and Trump was sent by God to save America. Hard to say. As much as they're happy to lie about it, they're tied to abortion/anti-women stuff and they're beholden to the voters that want them to keep at it. But at the same time their leadership doesn't want anything to do with this. The funny thing is the contrast here. Republicans see an election issue and think "how can we draw this out and make sure the other side can't fix it so we can soak as much political clout out of it as possible without ever doing anything?", see the border. But the Dems see an election issue like this one and think "how can we leverage the attention to actually secure a law that our side wants?" It lays both of their priorities bare. Not sure I agree with the Dems route considering the circumstances, but in a world where one side wasn't in a retarded death cult, it would probably be a smart move and would potentially move the needle.
February 27, 20242 yr 6 hours ago, DiPros said: Embryo. Fetus. Baby. Baby is a human living being, the 1st 2 stages are not. So if it's not a living being, what is it? Dead? If it's not a human, what is it? It has human DNA just like you. This entire line of logic is asinine if not diabolical.
February 27, 20242 yr 7 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Not babies. We've been over this a million times. If you guys are going to be intentionally stupid and play semantics then this is a pointless conversation. As usual with you 13 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: So if it's not a living being, what is it? Dead? If it's not a human, what is it? It has human DNA just like you. This entire line of logic is asinine if not diabolical.
February 27, 20242 yr If anything, this IVF fiasco exposed these clowns for the dishonest POSs they are.
February 27, 20242 yr 7 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Facts: human embryos are human lives Toastrel: embryos aren't human lives you're so Stoopid! Derp! Yes, embryos are not human lives. They are fertilized eggs that MIGHT come to term. In the body maybe 25% could become a viable human.
February 27, 20242 yr Author Quote But let’s get back to this abortion crap. Now, is a fetus a human being? This seems to be the central question. Well, if a fetus is a human being, how come the census doesn’t count them? If a fetus is a human being, how come when there’s a miscarriage they don’t have a funeral? If a fetus is a human being, how come people say "we have two children and one on the way” instead of saying "we have three children?” People say life begins at conception, I say life began about a billion years ago and it’s a continuous process. Continuous, just keeps rolling along. Rolling, rolling, rolling along. And say you know something? Listen, you can go back further than that. What about the carbon atoms? Hah? Human life could not exist without carbon. So is it just possible that maybe we shouldn’t be burning all this coal? Just looking for a little consistency here in these anti-abortion arguments. See the really hardcore people will tell you life begins at fertilization. Fertilization, when the sperm fertilizes the egg. Which is usually a few moments after the man says "Gee, honey, I was going to pull out but the phone rang and it startled me.” Fertilization. But even after the egg is fertilized, it’s still six or seven days before it reaches the uterus and pregnancy begins, and not every egg makes it that far. Eighty percent of a woman’s fertilized eggs are rinsed and flushed out of her body once a month during those delightful few days she has. They wind up on sanitary napkins, and yet they are fertilized eggs. So basically what these anti-abortion people are telling us is that any woman who’s had more than more than one period is a serial killer! Consistency. Consistency. Hey, hey, if they really want to get serious, what about all the sperm that are wasted when the state executes a condemned man, one of these pro-life guys who’s watching comes in his pants, huh? Here’s a guy standing over there with his jockey shorts full of little Vinnies and Debbies, and nobody’s saying a word to the guy! Not every ejaculated deserves a name.
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