June 24, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, TEW said: Murdering babies has consequences, even when women do it. So much for being Pro Life. Execute them. Got it.
June 24, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, TEW said: Murdering babies has consequences, even when women do it. I agree. Mass executions for women is a winning political message and I think everyone should be screaming it from the rooftops.
June 25, 20241 yr 18 hours ago, TEW said: Really a dumb, unfounded conclusion based on the study. There are a myriad of reasons deaths could have increased, and there are other states with similar laws where it did not increase. Was the study even adjusted for demographics like obesity, population change, ethnicity, immigration, etc? 14 states have an abortion ban (AL, AR, ID, IA, KY, LA, MS, MO, ND, OK, SD, TN, TX, and WV). For instance, ID has one of the lowest infant death rates in the country despite having a total ban on abortion. Same with IA, ND. Idaho's last numbers were released for 2021. And they were rising at the time. And let's be real, even if Idaho's numbers rise precipitously you'll either blame something else or you'll make an argument that banning abortion is still worth it. So stop pretending to argue in good faith. You're a childless man who afaik isn't married who thinks women should not have a choice. Period.
June 30, 20241 yr On 6/25/2024 at 8:33 AM, JohnSnowsHair said: Idaho's last numbers were released for 2021. And they were rising at the time. And let's be real, even if Idaho's numbers rise precipitously you'll either blame something else or you'll make an argument that banning abortion is still worth it. So stop pretending to argue in good faith. You're a childless man who afaik isn't married who thinks women should not have a choice. Period. Women should not have the "choice” to kill their children. Period. And if you’re going to conduct a study like this to try to prove something, you have to control for confounding variables. This is very basic stuff, something extremely simple that any undergrad student should understand and immediately criticize this study for failing to do, so YES, until they do that I will throw it in the trash where it belongs.
June 30, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, TEW said: Women should not have the "choice” to kill their children. Period. And if you’re going to conduct a study like this to try to prove something, you have to control for confounding variables. This is very basic stuff, something extremely simple that any undergrad student should understand and immediately criticize this study for failing to do, so YES, until they do that I will throw it in the trash where it belongs. Infant mortality increasing 13% within the same state in the year following the law going into effect. What confounding variables do you think are going to overcome that? Are you arguing that some massive demographic shift took place simultaneously with the abortion restrictions? Not that it matters, your childless ass thinks abortion = murder.
June 30, 20241 yr On 6/21/2024 at 6:59 AM, Paul852 said: Oh, you think men aren't behind most of the abortions that happen in this country? You're so adorable. Lol what?? Go ahead and explain please, I'd love to hear this take.
June 30, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Infant mortality increasing 13% within the same state in the year following the law going into effect. What confounding variables do you think are going to overcome that? Are you arguing that some massive demographic shift took place simultaneously with the abortion restrictions? Not that it matters, your childless ass thinks abortion = murder. Yes, there has absolutely been a massive demographic shift in Texas. Is this something you genuinely don’t know? Quote With 3,999,944 added population between 2010 and 2020, Texas ranked 1st in numeric growth among all the states and was the only state that gained two congressional seats; Texas’ growth rate of 15.9% more than doubled the growth rate of the nation (7.4%); Over 95% of the state’s growth were attributed to the increase of persons of color; https://demographics.texas.gov/Resources/Presentations/OSD/2022/2022_03_07_CommissiononCommunityCollegeFinanceWorkingGroup.pdf Maybe you missed all the illegal immigrants Biden allowed to invade our southern border? Maybe you missed the mass migration from the Dallas blue states into red states?
June 30, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Lol what?? Go ahead and explain please, I'd love to hear this take. Women have no agency when it comes to their own decision making.* * This is only true when the decision made is bad, poor, negative, or evil, like in abortion. Then it’s men’s fault.
June 30, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Lol what?? Go ahead and explain please, I'd love to hear this take. Are we pretending men don't pay for women's abortions and push them in that direction as much as they can? You might be the most gullible person here.
June 30, 20241 yr 35 minutes ago, TEW said: Yes, there has absolutely been a massive demographic shift in Texas. Is this something you genuinely don’t know? https://demographics.texas.gov/Resources/Presentations/OSD/2022/2022_03_07_CommissiononCommunityCollegeFinanceWorkingGroup.pdf Maybe you missed all the illegal immigrants Biden allowed to invade our southern border? Maybe you missed the mass migration from the Dallas blue states into red states? So a single year population growth rate of 1.5% is responsible for the single year increase of infant mortality of 13%? Have I got that right?
June 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Paul852 said: Are we pretending men don't pay for women's abortions and push them in that direction as much as they can? You might be the most gullible person here. You said men are behind "most" abortions that happen. Clearly, you're the one pretending. There's not a shred of evidence that backs up your male feminist take on this.
June 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Paul852 said: Are we pretending men don't pay for women's abortions and push them in that direction as much as they can? You might be the most gullible person here. https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/psrh/2005/reasons-us-women-have-abortions-quantitative-and-qualitative-perspectives The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman's education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents' or partners' desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents. Good take as always, Paul
June 30, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: "Less than 1%" Sure, Jan Waiting for your source to dispute it..... I found that within 3 seconds of searching. Study after study shows that it's basically a negligible reason. Needless to say Paul's opinion was absurdly wrong. Weird how you didn't have a problem with his post but want to come after mine.
June 30, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Waiting for your source to dispute it..... I found that within 3 seconds of searching. Study after study shows that it's basically a negligible reason. Needless to say Paul's opinion was absurdly wrong. Weird how you didn't have a problem with his post but want to come after mine. Like I said.....gullible.
June 30, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: "Less than 1%" Sure, Jan Bro, but they asked 1200 women 20 years ago. Forget the fact that there are 600k+ a year in the US alone.
June 30, 20241 yr Here's my 3 seconds of research by the way: https://lozierinstitute.org/study-many-women-who-had-abortions-felt-pressured-by-others/ Also only 1,000 surveyed. See how that works? At least mine was from last year.
June 30, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Me watching an argument start over sample size Can you give us a quick history lesson on sample size?
June 30, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Can you give us a quick history lesson on sample size? Yeah, but first punch yourself in the nuts about ten times.
June 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: Waiting for your source to dispute it..... I found that within 3 seconds of searching. Study after study shows that it's basically a negligible reason. Needless to say Paul's opinion was absurdly wrong. Weird how you didn't have a problem with his post but want to come after mine. Yeah and I'm sure you think domestic violence and rape aren't hilariously underreported also.
June 30, 20241 yr 39 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Yeah, but first punch yourself in the nuts about ten times.
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