Just now, Mike31mt said:

Ok well feel free to respond to any of my posts and point how irrational they are and why.  

Dude, I'm retired and even I don't have time to go through your dozens of irrational posts from the past 2 days and point all the idiocy out.

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Just a quick Google says teams with the CEO and Owner being the same:

Bills, Patriots, Jets, Ravens, Steelers, Bengals, Browns, Colts, Texans, Raiders, Chiefs in AFC

Giants, Eagles, Commanders, Saints, Rams, 49ers, Cardinals in the NFC. 

Vikings and Cowboys both have the sons of the owner as CEO.

So that's 18 teams currently with the owner/CEO being the same, with 2 more on the way. 

What about Tampa Bay ??  

Bryan Glazer

OWNER / CO-CHAIRMAN

Owner/Co-Chairman Bryan Glazer enters his 27th year with the Buccaneers, working tirelessly to support the Buccaneers franchise and brand. Possessing an acute business sense, Glazer oversees many of the day-to-day operations of the club

Edward Glazer

OWNER / CO-CHAIRMAN

Entering his 27th season with Tampa Bay in 2021, Owner/Co-Chairman Edward Glazer oversees many aspects of the team’s day-to-day business operations.

Joel Glazer

OWNER / CO-CHAIRMAN

Owner/Co-Chairman Joel Glazer is entering his 27th season overseeing the day-to-day operations of the franchise, along with other members of the Glazer family.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

What about Tampa Bay ??  

Bryan Glazer

OWNER / CO-CHAIRMAN

Owner/Co-Chairman Bryan Glazer enters his 27th year with the Buccaneers, working tirelessly to support the Buccaneers franchise and brand. Possessing an acute business sense, Glazer oversees many of the day-to-day operations of the club

Edward Glazer

OWNER / CO-CHAIRMAN

Entering his 27th season with Tampa Bay in 2021, Owner/Co-Chairman Edward Glazer oversees many aspects of the team’s day-to-day business operations.

Joel Glazer

OWNER / CO-CHAIRMAN

Owner/Co-Chairman Joel Glazer is entering his 27th season overseeing the day-to-day operations of the franchise, along with other members of the Glazer family.

I am wrong. McKay is CEO of Falcons.

A new Glazer, Avram is CEO, at least it appears. It seems like all the Glazers may act in that function. 

I mean it's clear enough that Mine Shaft Mike has no idea how a traditional business structure is run. Living your life in the darkness of the coal mines will do that to you I guess. 

6 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Just a quick Google says teams with the CEO and Owner being the same:

Bills, Patriots, Jets, Ravens, Steelers, Bengals, Browns, Colts, Texans, Raiders, Chiefs in AFC

Giants, Eagles, Commanders, Saints, Rams, 49ers, Cardinals in the NFC. 

Vikings and Cowboys both have the sons of the owner as CEO.

So that's 18 teams currently with the owner/CEO being the same, with 2 more on the way. 

So Janice McNair is involved in the day to day?  Clark Hunt?  The Bidwells might not even know they own the Cardinals.

Maybe you should keep googling

6 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

You made the initial claim that the owners aren't involved in day to day operations. The onus is on you to prove as much. Just saying you think so doesn't qualify. 

I have to prove they're not involved?

How do I prove something doesnt exist?

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

So Janice McNair is involved in the day to day?  Clark Hunt?  The Bidwells might not even know they own the Cardinals.

Maybe you should keep googling

Yes, owners don't give an ish about their billion dollar companies. You're so right. 

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:Maybe you should keep googling

I have to prove they're not involved?

How do I prove something doesnt exist?

The only evidence you have provided is a series of unsubstantiated allegations. You say as much right here.

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

Yes, owners don't give an ish about their billion dollar companies. You're so right. 

Dont be mad because googling for 5 minutes didnt win the day for you

1 minute ago, justrelax said:

The only evidence you have provided is a series of unsubstantiated allegations. You say as much right here.

What am I alleging that is unsubstantiated?

 

17 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

My practice is to be a polite and nice as possible in any setting.  I buy lunches for defendants and thank them for coming to my offiic, compliment their attorneys when they come in for mediation. If I'm trying to get money from them, it doesn't hurt to be nice.  Most of the time you can get a lot farther and it certainly helps to get witnesses to talk.  

The best lawyers in deposition get the deponent in a conversational mode. 

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

IMO its fine to know about the workings of the team, supervise them, and even intervene if they feel necessary. 

But you would think in his role, Julian will bave to collaborate with others, seek input and feedback, make decisions.  What if he makes a bad decision?  Will anyone feel comfortable calling him out?  How will he be held accountable if he screws up?  Could he be fired?

What happened here is the organizational balance just got tilted in one direction and there is a inequitable arrangement.

 

Julian may be the Tommy Boy for the Eagles but it's not like Lurie isn't going to be around for awhile to make sure things don't get too f'ed.  I mean it's not like we know anything about him aside from the fact he went to Harvard and did an internship program with the NFL. Of course, you are acting like he has no autonomy in the decision to work for the team.  I am sure he could do nothing and rest on his trust fund the rest of his life.  Instead he has gone to Harvard, applied for and completed an internship program, he is now taking a job with the team.  That doesn't seem to me to be someone who isn't interested in the field and the work.  He doesn't need to be some genius to be competent.  He has to want to be competent and work at it.  He seem at least willing to put in the work.  

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

What am I alleging that is unsubstantiated?

You say the owners are not involved, which is an allegation. You question whether you need to prove that allegation, which shows it is unproven.

11 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

So Janice McNair is involved in the day to day?  Clark Hunt?  The Bidwells might not even know they own the Cardinals.

Maybe you should keep googling

I have to prove they're not involved?

How do I prove something doesnt exist?

Read what @downundermike posted above about the Glazers. Please, take your time, and what does it say under each of their names? 

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

If you're an Eagles fan, you should be damned happy that Julian is being groomed to take over the team by learning every aspect of the organization.

He's going to be the CEO, which means he should have a basic understanding of what the people under him do so he can ask the right questions.

Otherwise you end up like the Flyers, with a rank amateur running the show, dependent on his 'advisors' to make decisions.

Given some of the losers who ran the team in the past (Tose, Braman), I'm happy the franchise won't be in the hands of some kid whose primary activities are chasing women, drinking to 4 AM and gambling on on-line casinos.

Seriously. I mean, Julian COULD be this guy:

2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

You say the owners are not involved, which is an allegation. You question whether you need to prove that allegation, which shows it is unproven.

The fact that owners arent involved in day to day operations is common knowledge.

That is why Jerry Jones is infamous, because he is unique in his involvement.

Ill go team by team later so theres nothing "unsubstantiated"

 

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Read what @downundermike posted above about the Glazers. Please, take your time, and what does it say under each of their names? 

The Glazers are co-owners/chairmen

They also own Manchester United.  Do you think theyre involved in the day to day there too?

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

The fact that owners arent involved in day to day operations is common knowledge.

That is why Jerry Jones is infamous, because he is unique in his involvement.

Ill go team by team later so theres nothing "unsubstantiated"

 

I look forward to that.

Just now, Mike31mt said:

The fact that owners arent involved in day to day operations is common knowledge.

That is why Jerry Jones is infamous, because he is unique in his involvement.

Ill go team by team later so theres nothing "unsubstantiated"

 

The Glazers are co-owners/chairmen

They also own Manchester United.  Do you think theyre involved in the day to day there too?

Yes. They aren't down on the field everyday mingling with the team and players, if that's what you're driving at. But they certainly are involved in day to day operations on the business side. It's insane to think otherwise. A lot of that is people under them reporting to them, but you seem to be insinuating that the majority of owners are sipping drinks on their mega yachts, not giving an ish about their franchises. 

So that's still the discussion?

6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

The fact that owners arent involved in day to day operations is common knowledge.

That is why Jerry Jones is infamous, because he is unique in his involvement.

Ill go team by team later so theres nothing "unsubstantiated"

 

The Glazers are co-owners/chairmen

They also own Manchester United.  Do you think theyre involved in the day to day there too?

So you think all sports franchise owners are silent owners?  They may not get involved in personnel, but they sure as ish are involved in business operations.

22 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

So Janice McNair is involved in the day to day?  Clark Hunt?  The Bidwells might not even know they own the Cardinals.

Maybe you should keep googling

I have to prove they're not involved?

How do I prove something doesnt exist?

We do know he has been around the team, and NFL, for a number of years.

Lurie, the 27-year-old son of Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie, will have the title of Business and Football Operations Strategy, reflecting his involvement in both the football operations and business sides of the organization, according to a team source... "Obviously, he grew up in the family that owns the team,”.. After college, he went into the NFL rotational program to learn much more about the business side and the league side from New York, working for the NFL for all those years. I’ve always, sort of like a lot of children of families that own teams, kind of (brought) him along in terms of I want to expose him to all aspects of both the business side and the operational side, the nuts and bolts

 

https://thespun.com/nfl/afc-south/tennessee-titans/nfl-fans-react-to-treylon-burks-leaving-practice-early

Titans may have lost their gamble...

Hey @TorontoEagle @justrelax look at this Nepotism.  

 

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

https://thespun.com/nfl/afc-south/tennessee-titans/nfl-fans-react-to-treylon-burks-leaving-practice-early

Titans may have lost their gamble...

That's from the last month.  Is the internet slower in Canada?