5 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

The biggest problem with this team is the coaching...they too didn't win any games with winning records. I think they are getting too big of a pass...this isn't a coaching staff with a few years experience together and adding a couple of coaches per year. It is still an ensemble cast.

What are the realistic chances of success bringing in people from all over the league and gelling in two seasons....with all the coaches working out?  

Siriani changed the entire scheme and gave up play calling responsibilities by midseason. The offense has no identity going into year two and the speculated offense plays to the QB's weaknesses.

The defense has added new pieces to be excited about, but Gannon may find himself over-complicating the overall scheme by balancing multiple formations and personnel packages. It too lacks identity.

The offense and defense were all exposed last year, and special teams are horrible. They have not addressed the ST at all this offseason...unless they want to hold a roster spot for Covey. 

There are question marks everywhere yet people are looking at the roster and projecting a top ten team with a divisional title. The coaching staff has a lot of growing up to do first.

They led a 4 win team to the playoffs with a below average to average QB. For a young, inexperienced staff, that’s pretty damn good. 
 

Not saying they’re going to be great but to say they’re the biggest problem over the QB, GM, and ownership is a bit obnoxious.
 

I didn’t bother reading the rest of your post. Put the paint chips down. 

@HazletonEagle i figured you’d like this story @EaglePhan1986 you should try this but with chipotle 

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

@HazletonEagle i figured you’d like this story @EaglePhan1986 you should try this but with chipotle 

 

I have lost a lot of weight eating almost all taco bell. 

There was a time I loosely followed the slim fast diet, where I'd have one of their shakes for breakfast.  Some kind of protein bar or another shake for dinner,  and my one meal a day, which was allowed to be like 500 calories was almost always taco bell. I would get 2 of the Chipotle chicken mini quesadillas. They don't have those anymore. 

Occasionally I'd get a grilled checked sandwich from Wendy's instead, or a chicken Ceasarsr wrap from sheets.

But anyway,  I lost like 40 pounds on that diet where my only meals were fast food, mostly taco bell.

24 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

The biggest problem with this team is the coaching...they too didn't win any games with winning records. I think they are getting too big of a pass...this isn't a coaching staff with a few years experience together and adding a couple of coaches per year. It is still an ensemble cast.

What are the realistic chances of success bringing in people from all over the league and gelling in two seasons....with all the coaches working out?  

Siriani changed the entire scheme and gave up play calling responsibilities by midseason. The offense has no identity going into year two and the speculated offense plays to the QB's weaknesses.

The defense has added new pieces to be excited about, but Gannon may find himself over-complicating the overall scheme by balancing multiple formations and personnel packages. It too lacks identity.

The offense and defense were all exposed last year, and special teams are horrible. They have not addressed the ST at all this offseason...unless they want to hold a roster spot for Covey. 

There are question marks everywhere yet people are looking at the roster and projecting a top ten team with a divisional title. The coaching staff has a lot of growing up to do first.

That's certainly the glass is half empty viewpoint...

We do have a top tier o-line, which can hide a lot of problems on offense. We've added AJ Brown, which gives us an excellent set of receiving options (Brown/Smith/Goedert). There's certainly talent there that should provide an upgrade over last year. 

On defense, the d-line has certainly been improved. The sack numbers should increase. The CB position will be interesting, you could argue it's been upgraded, but I'm not sold on JB, and the 12 CBs behind the top 2 are nothing more than lottery tickets at this point. You'd think one of them will play well enough for us to take notice. 

LB is improved, but considering the black hole it was last year, it's like upgrading from RTK to Bacarty. 

Safety is a gaping hole as discussed earlier. And the RBs will be elevated because of the great o-line play. 

Coaching is a concern, no doubt. But not the biggest problem, IMO. 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

I have lost a lot of weight eating almost all taco bell. 

There was a time I loosely followed the slim fast diet, where I'd have one of their shakes for breakfast.  Some kind of protein bar or another shake for dinner,  and my one meal a day, which was allowed to be like 500 calories was almost always taco bell. I would get 2 of the Chipotle chicken mini quesadillas. They don't have those anymore. 

Occasionally I'd get a grilled checked sandwich from Wendy's instead, or a chicken Ceasarsr wrap from sheets.

But anyway,  I lost like 40 pounds on that diet where my only meals were fast food, mostly taco bell.

I haven't had Taco Bell in a while, they seemed to have shriveled up a bit here in Toronto. Most are tied in with a KFC, but either way, in the city centre (where I am), they're almost non-existent. Do they still do the cheesy gordita crunch? That was the greatest thing ever. 

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

@HazletonEagle i figured you’d like this story @EaglePhan1986 you should try this but with chipotle 

 

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19 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

That's certainly the glass is half empty viewpoint...

We do have a top tier o-line, which can hide a lot of problems on offense. We've added AJ Brown, which gives us an excellent set of receiving options (Brown/Smith/Goedert). There's certainly talent there that should provide an upgrade over last year. 

On defense, the d-line has certainly been improved. The sack numbers should increase. The CB position will be interesting, you could argue it's been upgraded, but I'm not sold on JB, and the 12 CBs behind the top 2 are nothing more than lottery tickets at this point. You'd think one of them will play well enough for us to take notice. 

LB is improved, but considering the black hole it was last year, it's like upgrading from RTK to Bacarty. 

Safety is a gaping hole as discussed earlier. And the RBs will be elevated because of the great o-line play. 

Coaching is a concern, no doubt. But not the biggest problem, IMO. 

 I am mostly glass half full to a point, but I probably should have used biggest question mark rather than problem. I am pushing back against those who are coming out and expecting a top 10 team in the NFL.

You are mostly discussing personnel which is what I am trying to avoid. Both the defense and offense are unknown going into the season. The prevailing notion seems to be that the offense will adjust back to a passing game. The defense will also be busy adjusting schemes to the newer personnel. That is a lot of plate spinning.

Compound that thinking with the shocking decisions around shortened and cancelled practices...I really don't know what to expect. My best guess right now (pre-camp) is this is a middling team.

57 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

The biggest problem with this team is the coaching...they too didn't win any games with winning records. I think they are getting too big of a pass...this isn't a coaching staff with a few years experience together and adding a couple of coaches per year. It is still an ensemble cast.

What are the realistic chances of success bringing in people from all over the league and gelling in two seasons....with all the coaches working out?  

Siriani changed the entire scheme and gave up play calling responsibilities by midseason. The offense has no identity going into year two and the speculated offense plays to the QB's weaknesses.

The defense has added new pieces to be excited about, but Gannon may find himself over-complicating the overall scheme by balancing multiple formations and personnel packages. It too lacks identity.

The offense and defense were all exposed last year, and special teams are horrible. They have not addressed the ST at all this offseason...unless they want to hold a roster spot for Covey. 

There are question marks everywhere yet people are looking at the roster and projecting a top ten team with a divisional title. The coaching staff has a lot of growing up to do first.

I don't think its the biggest problem, but the current coaching staff does seem to be a lot of just, nothing special. Outside of Stoutland, I don't think any of the coaches have a distinct quality or give any type of edge vs other teams. Our scripted plays stunk last year and I'm not confident in Steichen making in game adjustments or Sirianni having some great counter-punch up his sleeve to stop what the Bucs did. I think there was a lot of smoke and mirrors last year that made the overall state of the team appear more desirable than it actually is. 

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I stopped reading after this. 

The took a 4 win team with one of the worst full time QB's in the league to playoff spot. 

 

Run the ball and don't let the QB throw so we can beat up on an easy schedule isn't anything that special. I think Sirianni deserves more credit for keeping the vets invested after a 2-5 start more than anything else.  

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Doug would of failed this mission. Lots of coaches have failed this mission. crap, how many times did we see Andy fail this mission.

Knowing you have a crap QB, knowing you have to run the ball constantly in a pass happy league and your a pass happy coach is incredible hard and we've seen lots who couldn't put their pride aside and failed. 

not to mention, in the first 5-6 games we were slinging the rock, there were a ton of dudes running wide open, and a ton of missed throws by Jalen Swag. crap there were throws he did connect on that would of been huge gains if he hit a WR/TE in stride. 

He's a young coach who put his ego aside and either voluntary or was forced to give up playcalling and didn't put up a fight about it. It's a good quality but still down the list on things I'd want from a coach. Granted its hard to properly evaluate Sirianni as is, but nothing he's done yet makes me feel he's anything above average at best. 

1 hour ago, aptosbird said:

The biggest problem with this team is the coaching...they too didn't win any games with winning records. I think they are getting too big of a pass...this isn't a coaching staff with a few years experience together and adding a couple of coaches per year. It is still an ensemble cast.

What are the realistic chances of success bringing in people from all over the league and gelling in two seasons....with all the coaches working out?  

Siriani changed the entire scheme and gave up play calling responsibilities by midseason. The offense has no identity going into year two and the speculated offense plays to the QB's weaknesses.

The defense has added new pieces to be excited about, but Gannon may find himself over-complicating the overall scheme by balancing multiple formations and personnel packages. It too lacks identity.

The offense and defense were all exposed last year, and special teams are horrible. They have not addressed the ST at all this offseason...unless they want to hold a roster spot for Covey. 

There are question marks everywhere yet people are looking at the roster and projecting a top ten team with a divisional title. The coaching staff has a lot of growing up to do first.

I'm not sure about biggest but it does have a huge question mark. The playcalling wasn't great even after the change to a run first offense

Also people are forgetting how they were reacting to the DC scheme last year and the lack of adapting to the lack of talent

There are so many questions for this upcoming season that will need to get answered

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Foles played like a star in 2 games.  It just so happens that those two games were the most important games.  Outside of that, he didn't play like a star in 2017 and the beginning of 2018.

2 games of stardom from Foles in the playoffs and about 13 from Wentz in the regular season.  

Foles has had a strange career

22 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Both the QB and the coaching staff are equally concerning.  But the biggest concern is the people running the franchise who thinks a running QB and a puppet rah rah coach is the answer.  

Welcome to the blog where people are complaining about Roseman after a great offseason. 

4 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Nailed it.  25 actually.  

Congrats!

2 hours ago, aptosbird said:

The biggest problem with this team is the coaching...they too didn't win any games with winning records. I think they are getting too big of a pass...this isn't a coaching staff with a few years experience together and adding a couple of coaches per year. It is still an ensemble cast.

What are the realistic chances of success bringing in people from all over the league and gelling in two seasons....with all the coaches working out?  

Siriani changed the entire scheme and gave up play calling responsibilities by midseason. The offense has no identity going into year two and the speculated offense plays to the QB's weaknesses.

The defense has added new pieces to be excited about, but Gannon may find himself over-complicating the overall scheme by balancing multiple formations and personnel packages. It too lacks identity.

The offense and defense were all exposed last year, and special teams are horrible. They have not addressed the ST at all this offseason...unless they want to hold a roster spot for Covey. 

There are question marks everywhere yet people are looking at the roster and projecting a top ten team with a divisional title. The coaching staff has a lot of growing up to do first.

I think Sirianni is at least a competent as a coach.  I am not convince about Gannon.  The defense was just so easily picked apart at times last season.  Part of that was a lack of talent at LB but I think there were times where he just would fear giving up the big play that the safeties were just lined up too far make any impact on the plays.  He left big parts of the field open.   Billy Davis looked like Bud Carson compared to Gannon. Sure they have more talent at LB.  I still worry is tendency is just to play scared and soft.   

52 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Both the QB and the coaching staff are equally concerning.  But the biggest concern is the people running the franchise who thinks a running QB and a puppet rah rah coach is the answer.  

I don't see how you can say Roseman is sold on Hurts.  I mean they would have traded for Watson or Wilson if they could have.  My guess is that DGunn's report about the team not being satisfied with Hurts is probably straight from Roseman.  

100% agree on the puppet.  Of course, he also wants a coach he can scapegoat for his own failures.  

2 hours ago, TorontoEagle said:

I haven't had Taco Bell in a while, they seemed to have shriveled up a bit here in Toronto. Most are tied in with a KFC, but either way, in the city centre (where I am), they're almost non-existent. Do they still do the cheesy gordita crunch? That was the greatest thing ever. 

They do.  That's my old stand by.  If there's no awesome limited edition thing is the cheesy gordita crunch.

5 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I am hoping to hear more about his arm.  

Knee, arm and between the ears. I'm sure the between the ears part will take a while but he's gonna need that. He did demonstrate that but Nevada is not the NFL.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

I'm not sure about biggest but it does have a huge question mark. The playcalling wasn't great even after the change to a run first offense

Also people are forgetting how they were reacting to the DC scheme last year and the lack of adapting to the lack of talent

There are so many questions for this upcoming season that will need to get answered

At times during the season, it felt like the playbook was as thin as Chip Kelly's.  I think the run game was the exception.  

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

They do.  That's my old stand by.  If there's no awesome limited edition thing is the cheesy gordita crunch.

In high school, I worked at Taco Bell.  They used Grade D meat and a crap ton of fillers.  I would be worried about what's making that crunch.  

4 hours ago, TorontoEagle said:

I think most acknowledge safety is a wide, gaping hole. Sure, it can be somewhat minimized with scheme, but it's still the biggest hole on the team (without counting QB). 

And while I agree with your post overall, my thought is that between Brown/Smith/Goedert, at least one (and hopefully all 3) emerges as a true "elite" threat. The issue is all 3 are tied to the anchor that is Jalen Hurts. It's a really interesting scenario; can the shipmates be good enough to keep the captain afloat? Or is the captain so incompetent that even the best crew can't help him?  

I don't think the Captain is THAT bad. I don't think he's that good either, just good enough for Lowie to extend him but not to a star level contract. Mediocrity here we come.

19 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I don't see how you can say Roseman is sold on Hurts.  I mean they would have traded for Watson or Wilson if they could have.  My guess is that DGunn's report about the team not being satisfied with Hurts is probably straight from Roseman.  

100% agree on the puppet.  Of course, he also wants a coach he can scapegoat for his own failures.  

It was also reported they wanted to trade up and get Zac Wilson but Jets told them no because Jets wanted him

22 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

At times during the season, it felt like the playbook was as thin as Chip Kelly's.  I think the run game was the exception.  

A good coach is going to tailor the passing game portion of the playbook to those that have to execute it.