11 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So teams with Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers as their QB didn’t avg 30 and 400, but you hope that a team lead by Jalen Hurts will?  

Did you read the post or just your usual knee jerk reaction?

My target is top five, 380 ypg, 26.5 ppg (offense). To get there, the Eagles need merely make incremental improvements over last season. 2 1st downs, 1 FG per game.

Brown over Reagor is a big improvement, a deeper, better OL is another. We'll see if Hurts can raise his game, he doesn't have to be elite, just efficient.

The fact they were running a lot of screens in pre-season tells me Siri is going to add more wrinkles to this offense this year - this team should be a great screen team with the most athletic OL in the NFL - between the screens and the RPO, defenses should be on their heels.

It comes down to Hurts executing on a consistent basis, he doesn't need to throw frozen ropes in this offense, just make routine plays, routinely.

5 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I just went and looked at OTC, they have the Eagles with 3.12 million in 2022 cap space, and that will be 1.7 million once players 52 and 53 count against the cap week 1.

Rolling all of that over and adding to 2023, the Eagles currently have 11.58 million in 2023 cap space with 42 players under contract.

Sounds impossible to navigate that cap situation. Cant wait to see Howie have another amazing offseason in spite of that. 

Just now, austinfan said:

Did you read the post or just your usual knee jerk reaction?

My target is top five, 380 ypg, 26.5 ppg (offense). To get there, the Eagles need merely make incremental improvements over last season. 2 1st downs, 1 FG per game.

Brown over Reagor is a big improvement, a deeper, better OL is another. We'll see if Hurts can raise his game, he doesn't have to be elite, just efficient.

The fact they were running a lot of screens in pre-season tells me Siri is going to add more wrinkles to this offense this year - this team should be a great screen team with the most athletic OL in the NFL - between the screens and the RPO, defenses should be on their heels.

It comes down to Hurts executing on a consistent basis, he doesn't need to throw frozen ropes in this offense, just make routine plays, routinely.

We can't run RPOs because Hurts doesn't have the football intellect to do so.

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

I think we need to stop worrying about offense, we know what were going to get. 

We need to focus on getting turnovers. 

Eagles were net even last year, 22nd in INT's and 31st in fumbles and tied for 28th. and if I remember correctly we had 1 game with 3 or 4 turnovers. 

^^^^THATS THE PROBLEM WE NEED TO FOCUS ON^^^^^ 

Yup, and somehow they had the most defensive tds with 5🤷‍♂️

7 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

(I also like that Fangio has been around). 

This.

What's going on? I don't care. Vic is a proven commodity. On staff? Paid consultant? Free advice guy?

Glad to have him in Gannon"s ear in whatever capacity.

17 minutes ago, austinfan said:

So 380 ypg, and 26.5 ppg puts the Eagles in the top 5 - in which case there should be no complaints about Hurts.

To get there, the Eagles would need about 2 1st downs more per game (360 ypg last season), and one FG (24.0 ppg) per game.

One of the most important aspects of QB play is whether that QB wins games in the 4th quarter, or loses games in the 4th quarter.  With how the defense played against good teams last year, we didn't get enough information to see either way.  Most of the really good offenses had the game put away, which is why some posters point toward Hurts' "garbage time" stats.  There were late TDs scored after the result was decided, such as KC, TB (2x) and DAL.

If the team plays in more games this season where the offense has a chance to win the game in the final minutes then we will get a better picture of whether Hurts is "clutch" or not.  Kirk Cousins puts up excellent numbers, but plays poorly under the lights in prime time and when the games are decided late.

9 hours ago, jsb235 said:

One thing about Greg Ward, he has 130 career targets with 10 TDs and 46 first downs. Whatever your opinion of him, those are ridiculous numbers. 

Shall be interesting to see if the Eagles carry him on IR all season or release him when the toe is healthy.  I think that will be determined by what Ward wants and that is one of the reasons players seek out the Eagles. 

1 minute ago, Doc S. said:

This.

What's going on? I don't care. Vic is a proven commodity. On staff? Paid consultant? Free advice guy?

Glad to have him in Gannon"s ear in whatever capacity.

It could just as well be that Fangio is here to get ideas for himself. He may be making rounds to all different teams. Working to better himself for his next job. Its not unusual to see coaches travel around and pick brains.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Sounds impossible to navigate that cap situation. Cant wait to see Howie have another amazing offseason in spite of that. 

You want a football discussion, complain about other topics, I have a football post, and you have a snarky reply.

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I don't see all the love for Milton Williams. I don't remember him "flashing" at all. I don't remember him being overly disruptive last year. He had 2 sacks, 5 hurries on 456 snaps. That doesn't jump at me. Am I missing something? 

I think our scheme made all our dlinemen look bad from a stats perspective last year. A qb throwing the ball to his first read over and over again isn't going to yield a lot of sacks for a dt. 

Hmm

Just now, downundermike said:

You want a football discussion, complain about other topics, I have a football post, and you have a snarky reply.

Dont mean to offend. But the cap is fine. We have an elite GM who knows what he is doing. The sarcasm came out because we have been around this circle many, many times. 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It could just as well be that Fangio is here to get ideas for himself. He may be making rounds to all different teams. Working to better himself for his next job. Its not unusual to see coaches travel around and pick brains.

Accepted, but reports are he's been with our Birds throughout. Need more info but I like it.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Hmm

I will not be shocked at all if this guy winds up being a pain in the ass. Also the blog and Eagles Twitter is acting as if this guy is the next Dawkins. Meanwhile I haven’t heard squat about him since he’s been in the league 

Ben Simmons sucks. 

Just now, Doc S. said:

Accepted, but reports are he's been with our Birds throughout. Need more info but I like it.

Interesting. Havent seen that.

9 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

No. I’m assuming that you’re asking whether they can say, Hey we were only fooling when we put Devon Allen (your guy) on waivers and we’d like a do over. They can’t do that. But if he were to clear waivers, they could certainly resign him to the 53, after making an accompanying IR move.

IIRC they can’t IR them until like a minute after the waiver claim period closes. 

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

I think our scheme made all our dlinemen look bad from a stats perspective last year. A qb throwing the ball to his first read over and over again isn't going to yield a lot of sacks for a dt. 

Sure, but Josh Sweat had 7.5 on 655, with another 25 pressures. That's about 1 sack per 88 plays. Williams is at 1 sack per 228. 

Pressures is 1 per 26 for Sweat, or 1 per 91 for Williams. 

I get that a DE is going to have far more pressures and sacks than a DT. But Williams is lauded for his versatility, and I just don't remember him standing out in any way last year. 

28 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

my scroll wheel just stopped working on this site only. who unleashed the virus on us?

I blame Jalen Hurts

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Dont mean to offend. But the cap is fine. We have an elite GM who knows what he is doing. The sarcasm came out because we have been around this circle many, many times. 

I see it from a different perspective.  We have 57.8 in dead money this year.  Yes, the CGJ move was a good one, but he is a rental player at this point.  He became expendable as the Saints signed Marcus Maye and the Honey Badger.

I would rather have that 57.8 million in dead money available to sign one of the top free agent safeties instead of using draft resources to trade for one that is a rental at this point.

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

He doesnt grasp the basic concept that the cap is extremely fluid and very easily manipulated. He's been on the cap issue for years. It's boring and dumb but he runs his mouth about it. 

Complain about non football topics, complain about football topics.  All you do is complain.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I see it from a different perspective.  We have 57.8 in dead money this year.  Yes, the CGJ move was a good one, but he is a rental player at this point.  He became expendable as the Saints signed Marcus Maye and the Honey Badger.

I would rather have that 57.8 million in dead money available to sign one of the top free agent safeties instead of using draft resources to trade for one that is a rental at this point.

Those guys are safeties, and he was their nickel CB. So that is not exactly accurate.

If you had 57.8 million available youd get your top safety free agent, and you wouldnt have half of the rest of the talent we have on this team. The dead money is there because Howie stretches each dollar to make it worth 1.50. That affords us extra talent on the team. You ONLY look at that pile of dead money as a bad thing without acknowledging all the good it has provided us.

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

If it was a Hurts issue you wouldnt be able to see the middle or left side of the message board and when you clicked on a spot to start typing it would probably end up else where

I'm still hoping that Mr Hurts serves us a huge dish of crow and has a spectacular season. 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

Sure, but Josh Sweat had 7.5 on 655, with another 25 pressures. That's about 1 sack per 88 plays. Williams is at 1 sack per 228. 

Pressures is 1 per 26 for Sweat, or 1 per 91 for Williams. 

I get that a DE is going to have far more pressures and sacks than a DT. But Williams is lauded for his versatility, and I just don't remember him standing out in any way last year. 

I think he is a guy who will really benefit from the team adding Davis. Last year our scheme wasn't great because we lacked a true nt, so our five man fronts weren't as effective. But adding Davis at nt and Reddick at olb should help Williams have a bigger impact. 

But if he's not any good, that would be a problem. 

So he will be someone to watch because him not being good wouldn't be ideal. I did see him get a few clean wins in preseason games, so that's a good sign. 

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Sounds impossible to navigate that cap situation. Cant wait to see Howie have another amazing offseason in spite of that. 

And yet, somehow, some way, Howie every year does it.  I have given up a long time ago worrying about the cap, it is meaningless.  I mean unless you long for the good 'ol days of Banner and Reid and being Salary Cap Champions!!

24 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Exactly, but if he's making plays to compensate for the "misses," who cares. I mean even Brady makes mistakes, like dropping key passes. 🤣

Sirianni is building an offense similar to what Reid had, where you can almost "plug and play" QBs, look what Garcia did in 2006 coming in for McNabb.

So it's less about QB heroics than efficiently commanding an well oiled machine.

Replacing Reagor with Brown takes them up another notch, if they could add a power back off waivers even better.

Now until we play the games we won't know if Hurts can manage this offense at a high level - but if they need to replace him, they will probably go for an efficient veteran over a draft pick - unless a NFL ready type like Jones is available. With the balance of talent on this team, a game manager works as well as a gunslinger (i.e. big plays downfield are less important than consistently hitting slants to Brown, quick outs to Smith, throws down the seam to Goedert, screens behind mobile big uglies, and running the RPO to perfection).

Uh... what?

In what way is an offense that leans heavily on the QB's ability to run 'plug and play'?  Until the read option is gone from the playbook, or at least relegated to its rightful place as a tool to be used in only very specific situations and limited to being brought out about every 3 weeks or so, this offense isn't about a well oiled machine.  It is about maximizing production with a limited QB who is an above average runner.

BTW, Reid changed the offense to maximize Garcia's skill set when he came in, rather than McNabb's.  Very different QB styles with those two.  No more deep shots to start the game, no more deep crosses and flags.  Much more over the middle short, throw it in stride and let the receiver run with the ball.