3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Jims had an electrical wiring malfunction

Did it lead to a fire?

Love the options...we're staying at South 20th and Passyunk apparently (looks like a bit of sketchy area, lol), if that makes any difference. 

For getting to the game via transit, easiest to just walk to Broad and grab the train? Last time we stayed just off Broad so that made it easy enough. 

2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

This dates me but I have to say, not always. They had Roger Staubach.

.   True.   I forgot about him.   

 

Ok... Army and Air Force always have a game manager.   Navy had an exception.    

Also, I really hope Wentz plays that Monday night. 

24 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

This entire offense is built around Hurts being a dual threat. Like it or hate it, that’s the value he brings and it makes this a unique offense. There are probably only two other teams in the league that can run the scheme they ran against Parsons last night and he was completely neutralized until Lane went out. They made one of the most dynamic defenders in the game look lost with this style. That’s something Minshew can’t bring. Not even close. 

Yeah that was awesome to see!

I watched the BUF/KC game yesterday and kept thinking to myself that Hurts is clearly not the passer or especially improv. passer that Allen and Mahomes are but on the other hand, schematically there are things that the Eagles are doing to utilise Hurts' skill set as well as the talent of the OL and WRs/TE.

If you have to pay Hurts Allen/Mahomes money to keep him around then I don't think there will be enough talent on the rest of the roster to excel but if you can get Hurts on a good deal (compared to elite QBs), you may find yourself in a better position, having more money to spend on the rest of the roster and tailoring the O to maximise his skill set.

It'll be really interesting to see what kind of contract he signs. The media talking about him in the MVP conversation probably doesn't help us long term

 

 

5 hours ago, RLC said:

Hurts is playing like a top 10 QB right now. He's good enough to get to the SB. 

Hurts' should not be extended given his playing style.

Both things can be true.

To follow that approach, Howie needs to select a legitimate replacement QB in the 2023 Draft.  I grabbed the following list of the top QBs likely to be in this next Draft.  Which of those QBs would be on your realistic wish list, and with which of the Eagles 2023 picks?  Assume your statement "He's good enough to get to the SB." makes the Eagles own pick either #31 or #30 (#32 is forfeited by the Dolphins).

1	C.J. Stroud	Ohio State
2	Hendon Hooker	Tennessee
3	Drake Maye	North Carolina
4	Bryce Young	Alabama
5	Michael Penix Jr.	Washington
6	Caleb Williams	USC
7	Grayson McCall	Coastal Carolina
8	Will Rogers	Mississippi State
9	Dorian Thompson-Robinson	UCLA
10	Stetson Bennett	Georgia
HM	Jaren Hall	BYU
HM	Will Levis	Kentucky
HM	Austin Reed	Western Kentucky
HM	Jordan Travis	Florida State
HM	D.J. Uiagelelei	Clemson
HM	Tyler Van Dyke	Miami (FL)
HM	Cameron Rising	Utah

33 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Kyron Johnson went for the tackle and gave up the sideline contain.  He was the outside most defender.  Turpin was able to easily make him miss and run up the sideline.

Exactly this. Same thing happened on the opening kickoff and would probably have gone for a big gain but the returner tripped and fell.

In addition, on the big return Nakobe Dean got sucked in also and looked pretty slow in pursuit.

Incidentally I was surprised the Cowboys continually kicked the ball for touchbacks rather than forcing the Eagles to return it. In fact there was one kickoff, and I forget the specifics of it right now, where it would have made tactical sense -- something to do with the clock, as I recall -- for them to do precisely that.

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Nah, there are QBs who drive the offense with their talent, Favre was in a WCO but he didn't run it like Montana or Young, he lived to make big plays. Wilson's a big play QB, but take away those plays and he's meh. Mahomes and Allen are athletic QBs with big arms who force plays but get away with it.

Peyton was a game manager, he was just at another level, his vision and decision making was so quick that he'd expose any weakness in a defense, that's what Brady became in 2004.

Eli on the other hand was too inconsistent to manage an offense efficiently, his bread and butter was the deep throw to Burress down the sideline.

Some is coaching, some is scheme, some is the QB. If you don't have the big arm, you have to be more efficient, you're not going to consistently make something out of nothing, so you have to keep "nothing" from developing (recognize the blitz and quickly hit your hot receiver, and so on).

Hurts ceiling will be determined by his mental skills, his arm is good enough but nothing close to elite, his running isn't sustainable at this level (though his body allows him more latitude than taller, leaner QBs like Wentz, he's built like a FB) but should always be there as an option. But it will be his decison making and accuracy that makes or breaks him down the road.

Brady was a 7th round pick.

Wilson was a 3rd round pick

Cousins was a 4th round pick

Romo was undrafted

Dak was a 4th round pick

The NFL decided that Hurts talent deserved to be drafted before those guys.

Your personal feelings about his ceiling are meaningless. You don't know anything about him. You are not paying attention.

What exactly do you base your completely wrong opinions on Hurts? His 2020 ESPN draft profile? 🤡

Compare his first 25 starts to Josh Allen and get a clue.

25 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

People who use Game Manger are really just saying they have no idea how the NFL works.

Aaron Rodgers has been a game manager the last 4 years. Now that he lost Adams he can't manage.

The WCO was a game management offense so Montana and Young and all were game managers.

McNabb is the exception because you have to consistently make basic NFL throws to manage games. Its why a great AR Eagles team would lose games 13-7 with McNabb. He could not manage consistently.

Peyton Manning was a game manager. (run or pass at the line decisions are QB game management 101)

Tom Brady is a game manager.

When the Eagles lose 3 top CBs and Dak starts picking on the UPS guy, that's game management.

When a team starts blitzing you and you screen around them its game management.

When a team goes cover shell and you run it down their throats that's game management.

 

Its called having a flexible offensive system. Kurt Warner '99 managed the game. Faulk, Faulk, Faulks, Deep Shot. rinse. repeat.

Patrick Mahomes manages the game. Josh Allen manages the game.

The only QB I can think of with sustained success who was not a game manager was Randall because Buddy and Kotite were idiots. He had nothing to manage because they had no NFL level offensive system.

Imagine thinking a QB who posted this stat line:

372/526, 70.7%, 4299 yards, 48 TDs 5 Ints in 16 games is a "game manager"

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Love the options...we're staying at South 20th and Passyunk apparently (looks like a bit of sketchy area, lol), if that makes any difference. 

For getting to the game via transit, easiest to just walk to Broad and grab the train? Last time we stayed just off Broad so that made it easy enough. 

Right near the original Old Original Nick's Roast Beef!   Gotta stop in there too.

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I can’t believe they are 5-1

This screams "not sustainable" to me.

If I'm honest though, our turnover differential is surely not sustainable either. But we have many areas we can easily improve too. If we do so, it could be a special season.

Just now, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Exactly this. Same thing happened on the opening kickoff and would probably have gone for a big gain but the returner tripped and fell.

In addition, on the big return Nakobe Dean got sucked in also and looked pretty slow in pursuit.

Incidentally I was surprised the Cowboys continually kicked the ball for touchbacks rather than forcing the Eagles to return it. In fact there was one kickoff, and I forget the specifics of it right now, where it would have made tactical sense -- something to do with the clock, as I recall -- for them to do precisely that.

End of first half, after their FG?

5 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

My worthless take aways...

I woke up thinking we needed to run a little more, and it was 38 run / 25 pass(39 officially but I think Hurts had 1 qb sneak) 

Shocked our defense didnt get to the QB but maybe that was the plan to let him throw(i.e. 3 picks)

Hurts is still having problems picking up/figuring out the blitz. He either panics and gets out of the pocket too soon, or just takes a HUGE loss. 

I dont think we rush Lane back. Bye week, Steelers(no watt) and Texans tells me that Driscoll, with prep and snaps as a starter over the next 2-3 weeks will do just fine.

Overall. Great win. We looked bad for 9 minutes and the cowboys made the score a lot closer then it was. Would like to throw a couple more points up each week when we're +3 but again, Huge win going into bye week

 

As noted earlier, another option to Driscoll is Dillard at LT and Mailata at RT.  They can use the 2-3 weeks to prep that.

2 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Brady was a 7th round pick.

Wilson was a 3rd round pick

Cousins was a 4th round pick

Romo was undrafted

Dak was a 4th round pick

The NFL decided that Hurts talent deserved to be drafted before those guys.

Your personal feelings about his ceiling are meaningless. You don't know anything about him. You are not paying attention.

What exactly do you base your completely wrong opinions on Hurts? His 2020 ESPN draft profile? 🤡

Compare his first 25 starts to Josh Allen and get a clue.

Was just a matter of time before this nugget came out.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Was just a matter of time before this nugget came out.

You forgot the cute clown emoji!

3 minutes ago, bbabraham said:

This screams "not sustainable" to me.

If I'm honest though, our turnover differential is surely not sustainable either. But we have many areas we can easily improve too. If we do so, it could be a special season.

Not turning the ball over and generating turnovers can be more sustainable than double digit come backs constantly.

Brown must be out awhile. 

5 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

The offense, the QB play, the defense, the offensive play calling opened the door. 

The offense, running game, QB, O-line, AJ Brown closed it. 

DeVonta too

8 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Love the options...we're staying at South 20th and Passyunk apparently (looks like a bit of sketchy area, lol), if that makes any difference. 

For getting to the game via transit, easiest to just walk to Broad and grab the train? Last time we stayed just off Broad so that made it easy enough. 

Honestly, these days in Philly almost every area except some areas in center city and some areas in NE Philly are sketchy. Don't wanna scare you, but keep your wits about you. The city's homicide rate is bad these days. On a Sunday afternoon traveling public transit with other Eagles fans you should be fine though, I wouldn't worry.

 

John's Roast Pork is like 10 minutes away from where you'll be.

7 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Exactly this. Same thing happened on the opening kickoff and would probably have gone for a big gain but the returner tripped and fell.

In addition, on the big return Nakobe Dean got sucked in also and looked pretty slow in pursuit.

Incidentally I was surprised the Cowboys continually kicked the ball for touchbacks rather than forcing the Eagles to return it. In fact there was one kickoff, and I forget the specifics of it right now, where it would have made tactical sense -- something to do with the clock, as I recall -- for them to do precisely that.

Probably right before halftime.

7 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Brady was a 7th round pick.

Wilson was a 3rd round pick

Cousins was a 4th round pick

Romo was undrafted

Dak was a 4th round pick

The NFL decided that Hurts talent deserved to be drafted before those guys.

Your personal feelings about his ceiling are meaningless. You don't know anything about him. You are not paying attention.

What exactly do you base your completely wrong opinions on Hurts? His 2020 ESPN draft profile? 🤡

Compare his first 25 starts to Josh Allen and get a clue.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Brown must be out awhile. 

Wow.   That was quick.  I wonder if they were already in talks before the injury.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Brown must be out awhile. 

 

It may have more to do with the meltdown between Anderson and the Panthers coaches on the sidelines yesterday.

 

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I don't hate it at all.  My biggest issue and I'm not sure if its Hurts limitations or the play calling but the Eagles have elite WR and they aren't being utilized.  The Eagles have a Ferrari, Lamborghini and a Hellcat on the highway and are running the at 45 mph.  

Over the last 3 weeks, Hurts has exactly 1 pass further than 20 yards and that was the 23 yard pass he made across his body (a great throw).

LOS or behind: 23

1-5 yards: 9

5-10 yards: 14

10-15 yards: 9

15-20 yards: 1

20-25 yards: 1 

 

This team's identity isn't to throw it 40-50 times a game. Every game outside of the Arizona and Jacksonville game has had them nursing a multiple score lead going into the second half (and even in those two games they had a lead going into half). As much as people want AJ and DeVonta to have 10 catches for 150 yards, that's not what the formula is. The greatest asset they have is the offensive line and they've been taking the air out of the ball in the second half and bleeding clock. That's a good formula even though everyone wants them to still throw and try to put up 50 points a game. And the defense vibes off of that flow as well. They're an opportunistic group, they lead the league in turnovers, and they're able to do that because of what the offense has done in the first half of games. There will come a game later on where they have to come back in the second half and that will be the test. But they haven't needed to do that yet through six games.