1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Calcaterra isn't a good blocker either. At least not yet. It was a big part of his scouting report. 

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer George Kittle too.  But I'm looking realistically at guys we could get for a late round pick that can upgrade a shallow position's depth. 

FWIW I think we should do the same at Safety and OG as well.

If Goedert gets seriously injured, he’s kind of irreplaceable. He’s easily a top 5 TE, with his combo of receiving and blocking. Albert O isn’t going to provide a fraction of what DG does. Stoll has been excellent at what he’s asked to do, and Calcaterra gets to learn and adapt to nfl speed. As it stands, there’s not enough targets or space to bring in Albert O. I’d rather let Calcaterra develop.

37 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Calcaterra has 1 reception this year.  Stoll has 2.

I get the blocking comments on Stoll but why are you guys trying to pump these guys up like they've shown anything as a receiver yet?

We are not pumping them up.  Simply recognizing the role that the coaching staff has assigned to TE#2 and TE#3.  Thinking that changing the name of the player who fills the TE#2 spot on the roster will change anything is simply fantasy.

34 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Who said they don’t want to win more?  I already asked you that.  RIF. 

No one to the best of my knowledge.  Do you know of anyone who has said that?

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

But they definitely can figure ish out like in years past.  

Yup, i can see them getting hot. And their defense is legit. But i think their line issues have to get resolved, and that doesn't seem like it will happen before we play them. 

2 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

 

That laugh after he nailed Lawrence.  

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

YOU bring up a 7 year old constantly. YOU THINK ABOUT BRINGING UP A 7 YEAR OLD. Think about that you Fign creep. YOU THINK ABOUT AND BRING UP A 7 YEAR OLD!!!!

You've never met me. You've never met my son. I actually havent said 2 words to you IN MONTHS and I know for a fact my son's never spoken to you. 

YET YOU BRING UP a 7 YEAR OLD!!!! think how Fing sick that is you pedophile

This is a mental breakdown not seen since the like of justdrop.

It's really time for you to unplug for good.  This place isn't good for you. 

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

He's bigger and faster than Calcanterra and would be a much better option to be the primary pass catching TE if Goedert were to have to miss any snaps.  Yes Stoll would still be the primary blocker still. 

TE and S are 2 areas that worry me with a complete lack of functional depth.  CJGJ or Goedert have to miss any time and the entire game-plan changes. 

Again it's far from priority #1 at the trade deadline but a cheap investment at TE2 and S3 makes sense to me.

I guess you don't believe in "Next man up".  The team and the coaches do believe in it. 

You are willing to expend resources (cap space and money), throw away resources (cut Calcaterra), and disrupt team chemistry for what? The fear of a possible injury? The benefit is "nibbling on the margins" and the cost is real and meaningful.  That's a bad investiment in my opinion.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

This is a mental breakdown not seen since the like of justdrop.

It's really time for you to unplug for good.  This place isn't good for you. 

I second this, it’s every f’ng day man 

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Is he talking to Hurts when he's screaming "Go"? Just noticed it's on some run plays

That's my guess.  

14 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You're a rare breed.  Glad I can help.  😃

Agreed.

15 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You can only catch balls that are thrown your way ... just ask Watkins.

That's the point: Goedert is by far and away the #1 option at TE and if he goes down, the entire offense changes. 

Stoll is a hell of a blocker and has some straight-line speed, but the dude is not nearly as agile, or as good a route runner, as Goedert is.  You could upgrade the position and Stoll's role could remain completely unchanged.  But he's not going to give you anything near what Goedert does and we rely on that too much to leave it up to Calcaterra.

 

 

12 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I am waiting for the annual "i can't believe we lost that game" game, and i was sure it was going to be the cardinals. But maybe the Titans? 

For some reason i don't see GB as a threat. That team seems ready for the offseason. 

I think that’s totally Tennessee. They lost week 1 to the hapless giants and we all thought they’d be terrible. Suddenly that loss doesn’t look so bad now, and they’re quietly 3-1 since as the #3 seed behind BUF and KC

12 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Explain why he is not blitzed 40 times a game or move on. This is an extreme cold take where you know more than NFL DCs.

You know that calling a blitz means rushing 5 or 6 or 7, not always getting through immediately.

When a blitz is picked up your D usually gets killed. The Bucs last play of the 2021 playoffs was a blitz. Stafford may have looked bad on the blitzes that worked earlier in the game.

Are you now claiming that the Eagles O-line is so bad that they never stop a blitz?

Are you claiming that Hurts is bad when he gets sacked in 1.5 seconds but other QBs are great in the same circumstances?

 

What I'm telling you is that you are taking an extremely simple approach to a complicated matter and you are not convincing anyone. Its not me you need to convince. Its the reality of what happened on the field 6 times and how all NFL DCs play the Eagles offense. If they start blitzing Hurts with 6 and 7 on every play and he starts getting 40 QB ratings and leading the team to 3 or 7 points then come back and tell us how brilliant you are.

It's actually weird that opposing DCs don't blitz that much because no, he does not handle the blitz well. Look at the cardinals game. Checked to WR screen after WR screen and by the second half they were getting snuffed out immediately. I feel like they brought extra men pretty often and with success, i would imagine we see it more down the line

1 minute ago, hukdonfoniks said:

That's the point: Goedert is by far and away the #1 option at TE and if he goes down, the entire offense changes. 

Stoll is a hell of a blocker and has some straight-line speed, but the dude is not nearly as agile, or as good a route runner, as Goedert is.  You could upgrade the position and Stoll's role could remain completely unchanged.  But he's not going to give you anything near what Goedert does and we rely on that too much to leave it up to Calcaterra.

 

 

Well think of it this way. It only changes during the 2nd quarter, because we arent doing anything during the other 3.

Glass half full.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  No one thought we'd be 6-0 at this point.  We're playing with house money.  

Too early in the season to be playing with house money.  Too much opportunity to regress to the mean.

 

 

13 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Do tell.  I remember the name, just not the story.  Was he the guy who took a pic with his degree on a chair in the front yard?

And Aaron Jones needs to get going.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

for fantasy sake

Hes not the degree guy. I was trying to think of his name and add it to the post but not coming to mind right now.

Justdrop was a military veteran who almost certainly was dealing with demons from his time in the service. He had some crazy back and forths with probully who was @downundermike's predecessor as far as super obsessive relentless ragging on someone over something. But probully was worse as he would imo cross the line with personal stuff, and even after it would come to light that someone might have a mental handicap- like with gameshowfan or gorahgeorge for instance.

4 minutes ago, hukdonfoniks said:

That's the point: Goedert is by far and away the #1 option at TE and if he goes down, the entire offense changes. 

Stoll is a hell of a blocker and has some straight-line speed, but the dude is not nearly as agile, or as good a route runner, as Goedert is.  You could upgrade the position and Stoll's role could remain completely unchanged.  But he's not going to give you anything near what Goedert does and we rely on that too much to leave it up to Calcaterra.

There is no evidence that that will happen.  Only speculation. 

With that said, here aren't more than 5 TEs in the NFL who wouldn't be a drop off when replacing Goedert.  And there was a time not all that long ago that Goedert was a #2 TE.  He has developed quite nicely when given the opportunity.  That is often how the NFL works ... new players replace old players.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You can’t even give me that one, can you?

 

 

It was sarcasm. 

I missed the sarcasm ... my bad.  Sometimes you are hard to read.

23 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

If Goedert gets seriously injured, he’s kind of irreplaceable. He’s easily a top 5 TE, with his combo of receiving and blocking. Albert O isn’t going to provide a fraction of what DG does. Stoll has been excellent at what he’s asked to do, and Calcaterra gets to learn and adapt to nfl speed. As it stands, there’s not enough targets or space to bring in Albert O. I’d rather let Calcaterra develop.

Of course he's irreplaceable as a player. It doesn't mean that you can't look for better options if you were forced to replace him though.  Let me put it this way: name the top 3 positions on this roster where if a starter were to go down, there is the biggest talent drop-off to their backup?  

I'd argue Safety, OG and TE. Maybe iDL is up there but hard to say given how much they rotate.

23 minutes ago, mattwill said:

We are not pumping them up.  Simply recognizing the role that the coaching staff has assigned to TE#2 and TE#3.  Thinking that changing the name of the player who fills the TE#2 spot on the roster will change anything is simply fantasy.

I agree the usage isn't super high, but you explicitly said that Calcaterra is a better receiver.  For which we have absolutely zero evidence right now.

You can also make just as valid an argument that the reason the TE2 is getting so few targets is talent based.  We're talking about a player that is going to be on the field for 20-25% of the offensive snaps who is currently making up only about 2% of the team reception share.   It was about 9% last year for reference.

17 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I guess you don't believe in "Next man up".  The team and the coaches do believe in it. 

You are willing to expend resources (cap space and money), throw away resources (cut Calcaterra), and disrupt team chemistry for what? The fear of a possible injury?  

All depends on the cost.  If it's cheap, absolutely.

And while fear of injury is a possibility, the TE2 is not a complete non-factor on this team despite the move away from 12 personnel. See above. 

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

There is no evidence that that will happen.  Only speculation. 

With that said, here aren't more than 5 TEs in the NFL who wouldn't be a drop off when replacing Goedert.  And there was a time not all that long ago that Goedert was a #2 TE.  He has developed quite nicely when given the opportunity.  That is often how the NFL works ... new players replace old players.

Of course there's no evidence - injuries are random and unexpected.  That's why you carry backups. 

New players replace old players when they have the same skill set as the guy in front of them.  Goedert was able to do everything Ertz could, and to top it off Goedert was a superior blocker.  It wasn't an accident that we traded up to draft him, there was a precise reason and it didn't take long for us to see what that was. 

Stoll cannot do what Goedert can do.  Calcaterra hasn't come anywhere near close to proving that he can.  He might be one more concussion away from retirement with his track record of them. 

Boss

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

This is a mental breakdown not seen since the like of justdrop.

It's really time for you to unplug for good.  This place isn't good for you. 

He lets them get to him. They also love going at him and he should ignore them and use the ignore feature. They wont use it because they like to go after him

34 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Jaeden Graham?  Seems like a JAG to me.  Suspect you were referring to Tyree Jackson, who’s on PUP.  Still a project.  Togiai is kind of a JAG.  The question is would Albert O give them Goedert insurance or are Stoll and Calcaterra good enough.  Haven’t yet seen enough of Calcaterra to opine.  Seems to run routes well and a better blocker than I expected on the few plays he has been in.  

 Yes I meant Tyree Jackson. And you’re right about PUP rather than IR. 

I liked Calcaterra a LOT when I watched his college highlights after he was drafted. Granted they are highlights so they are designed to make the player look good. But there was just something about the way he moved and the way he went up to get the ball that really impressed me. I think he has the ability to become a really good receiving tight end in this league. Just don’t ask him to block much because I don’t think that’s ever going to be his game.

The fact that his contributions this year are minimal doesn’t concern me. Our starter is a star, and the backup fills the blocking role. He was never going to play much this year anyway and he missed a month with a hamstring so it’s been a slow start for him. 

And you can’t waive him so that you can put him on your practice squad because he’ll never make it to the practice squad. He’d get claimed quicker than you can say Casey Toohill.

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He lets them get to him. They also love going at him and he should ignore them and use the ignore feature. They wont use it because they like to go after him

Yeah.

But I dont think anyone here knew the age of his son. He keeps throwing that out there today, reaching, trying to make them sound more sinister than they are. Hes desperate, crying out for help at this point. All caps. Crying for the mods to take action. Calling people pedophiles- which makes no sense. He broke. If the internet can break him, he shouldnt be on it.

At no point has his son ever been the subject or main idea of anyone else's post. People just cant believe the guy was seriously going to bring his son to a fight outside a football game. He offered up that info. And its cerainly eyebrow raising. He let that cat out of the bag. You cant get that back in. Now he is struggling to deal with the consequences of his own mouth. He is trying to re-write the story as people focusing obsessively on his 7 year old son. That couldnt be further from the truth (which is not surprising since bacarty introduced himself to these boards right off the bat as a pathological liar.)

He has got to unplug.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah.

But I dont think anyone here knew the age of his son. He keeps throwing that out there today, reaching, trying to make them sound more sinister than they are. Hes desperate, crying out for help at this point. All caps. Crying for the mods to take action. Calling people pedophiles- which makes no sense. He broke. If the internet can break him, he shouldnt be on it.

At no point has his son ever been the subject or main idea of anyone else's post. People just cant believe the guy was seriously going to bring his son to a fight outside a football game. He offered up that info. And its cerainly eyebrow raising. He let that cat out of the bag. You cant get that back in. Now he is struggling to deal with the consequences of his own mouth.

He has got to unplug.

They constantly being up the whole situation of him willing to fight in front of his son. He takes that as a slight that they keep mentioning his son and they keep doing it because he doesn't like it. It's a constant back and forth that has escalated 

It's not exactly all on him. They love to antagonize him

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

yes, you brought it up once, I explained the story(I knew the guy wouldnt show up) and it was over. 

Since then, while on mute, meaning I didnt say 2 words to you, you've thought about, and brought up my  7 year old(a kid, you Fing pervert) over 11 times. 

Use the ignore feature