For CMC I'd go in no specific order:

Dolphins, Ravens, Raiders, Chiefs, Bills

49ers are doing fine with Wilson and they're getting Mitchell back at some point.  CMC isn't going to neutralize Garoppolo's tendencies in big games. 

Bills *might* be in the mix, even though McCaffrey is Singletary on steroids. 

Dolphins might make the move if they think Tua is coming back and they need the added firepower as a wildcard.  Ravens could see McCaffrey taking some of the heat off Jackson since Dobbins keeps getting banged up.  Raiders just because this seems like a Raiders thing to do and they could use this as the chance to unload Jacobs.  Chiefs because CEH and McKinnon are an average platoon at best and they could see CMC as not only bolstering their offense but keeping Buffalo from getting stronger.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Big gamble on how long he'd stay healthy

I think they’re all in right now. He wouldn’t need or get 20 touches a game in Buffalo, so he might be able to hold up a little better. 

I don’t think they’re getting a first-round pick regardless.

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

YOU bring up a 7 year old constantly. YOU THINK ABOUT BRINGING UP A 7 YEAR OLD. Think about that you Fign creep. YOU THINK ABOUT AND BRINGING UP A 7 YEAR OLD!!!! YOU TALK ABOUT MY 7 YEAR OLD IN HERE!!!! He has NOTHING to do with football, nor the conversation at hand, yet you're pedo-creepy ass does it A LOT!

You've never met me. You've never met my son. I actually havent said 2 words to you IN MONTHS and I know for a fact my son's never spoken to you. 

YET YOU BRING UP a 7 YEAR OLD!!!! think how Fing sick that is you pedophile

You are the one who brought up your son, multiple times, while setting up a fight with @EaglePhan1986 at the Wells Fargo Lot F before the preseason games.

I just went back and read the whole convo, this is all on you.

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Is Bills run game that bad that they'd need to overpay for a RB? 

They're not bad per se, but they're the clear weak link in their offense.  The stats look fine if you take them at face value but if you dig into the rush EPA

Singletary, Moss, and Cook are a mediocre group bolstered by a mobile QB, good OL and great receiving game.  

Not surprised by Browns with their 2 headed monster backs

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

I agree the usage isn't super high, but you explicitly said that Calcaterra is a better receiver.  For which we have absolutely zero evidence right now. We don't have zero evidence.  His reception in the Washington game is evidence, and catching 100% of his targets is evidence.  But it is not meaningful evidence because of the small sample size.

You can also make just as valid an argument that the reason the TE2 is getting so few targets is talent based.  We're talking about a player that is going to be on the field for 20-25% of the offensive snaps who is currently making up only about 2% of the team reception share.   It was about 9% last year for reference.  I'm not sure where you are getting your stats, but a quick compilation of the Gamebooks from last year (weeks 7-16) shows 2.4% of the total targets (251) were to TE#2 (6), not 9%.  If you add in the meaningless Week 18 game against Dallas, the percentage jumps up to 2.8% (8 out of 285), still not even close to 9%.

And while fear of injury is a possibility, the TE2 is not a complete non-factor on this team despite the move away from 12 personnel. See above. 

 

@devpool Don't get me wrong, he's only on start number 26 and he can still improve in lots of ways. I am sure blitz recognition and reaction is one of those. What is not going on is that he just falls apart if you decide to bring more than 4 as was suggested earlier by someone else. Arizona was literally the worst game the Eagles played all year so its the easiest to point to for all different kinds of failings. I don't think anyone thinks Hurts has already arrived like the next Brady or that he is done learning or improving.

He is a top 5 QB right now because of his ongoing improvement and work ethic and learning but also because of coaching and the incredible talent around him. The soft schedule helps a bunch too but this NFL is a lot like the 2004 NFL. You have to have a soft schedule unless you are playing Philly, Buffalo, and KC. (Philly, NE, and Pittsburgh in 2004)

Mahomes was MVP in 2018 because he arrived. Lamar was MVP in 2019 because he played really well, had a really good team, and had lots of opportunity.  If Hurts wins MVP this year it will be more like 2019 Lamar. If Allen wins it will be more like 2018 Mahomes.

I think most rational Eagles fans (not Hurts haters) are excited by what Hurts is now but also look forward to see if he can keep getting better.

To use Josh Allen again, he was in the MVP discussion in 2020 but the 2022 guy is way better. I hope for that growth from Hurts and am enjoying what he and the team can already do now.

 

1 hour ago, hukdonfoniks said:

Of course there's no evidence - injuries are random and unexpected.  That's why you carry backups. 

New players replace old players when they have the same skill set as the guy in front of them.  Goedert was able to do everything Ertz could, and to top it off Goedert was a superior blocker.  It wasn't an accident that we traded up to draft him, there was a precise reason and it didn't take long for us to see what that was. 

Stoll cannot do what Goedert can do.  Calcaterra hasn't come anywhere near close to proving that he can.  He might be one more concussion away from retirement with his track record of them. 

Agreed 100%

I think TE is fine as it is, relatively speaking, but I would definitely want to upgrade S3 if someone is out there that is relatively cheap. I don't want Wallace having to step in and play a meaningful role.  

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think TE is fine as it is, relatively speaking, but I would definitely want to upgrade S3 if someone is out there that is relatively cheap. I don't want Wallace having to step in and play a meaningful role.  

That to me is the most obvious trade target. I’ve seen people mention Jabrill Peppers since he can also return kicks. Not sure he’s worth even a 7 at this point. 

On 9/17/2022 at 7:46 PM, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Give it up dork.  He won’t be your friend.  You’re a ****.  Don’t give a crap what you have to say.  Pound sand F face.  

 

34 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Huh?  When have I called someone that.  Or reported someone after I blocked them?  Please, I’d love to know.  

You asked. See above.

29 minutes ago, mattwill said:

 

A single reception is not evidence man c'mon now.  

And I got those numbers by taking the total number of receptions of non-Godert TEs (27) as a percentage of the total number of receptions (307) = 8.7%

This year it's 3 receptions out of 123 so far = 2.4%

If you'd rather look at targets it's 4/174 this year (2.3%) vs 45/468 last year (9.6%)

Why are you only looking at weeks 7-16? If it's because the numbers drop off after the Ertz trade that just proves my point further. We're not avoiding the TE2 because of scheme. We threw the ball to the TE2 more when we had a functional pass catching TE2. And we're not running THAT much less 12 personnel. 

32 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I'm looking at this from a different perspective.  Does getting Burns for the marginal improvement for an already top-5 defense offset what his contract would prevent you from being able to do down the road.

I would argue that our defense works well because of Slay AND Bradberry.  So, in my mind, keeping Bradberry long-term (and avoiding the alternative) is more important than adding another DE to an already effective, albeit not consistently dominant, group.

Here’s the thing though. I don’t really think our DE group is *that effective* as it stands at the moment. (The Washington game was an anomaly due to their inept offensive line. The pass rush has been underwhelming otherwise.) We are already down one guy in Barnett. Jackson apparently can’t play. Graham is pretty damn old and could easily fade down the stretch this season. Sweat will always have concerns about his knee. And the versatility that Milton Williams teased us with last year seems to have vanished like a fart in the wind so who the hell knows what he is going to be? The 2024 Eagles DESPERATELY need defensive end help. Burns would cost a lot, but he’s already proven to be a good player and he’s still as I understand it under the age of twenty-five. That’s precisely the profile that Howie looks for when targeting trades.

 

9 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Here’s the thing though. I don’t really think our DE group is *that effective* as it stands at the moment. (The Washington game was an anomaly due to their inept offensive line. The pass rush has been underwhelming otherwise.) We are already down one guy in Barnett. Jackson apparently can’t play. Graham is pretty damn old and could easily fade down the stretch this season. Sweat will always have concerns about his knee. And the versatility that Milton Williams teased us with last year seems to have vanished like a fart in the wind so who the hell knows what he is going to be? The 2024 Eagles DESPERATELY need defensive end help. Burns would cost a lot, but he’s already proven to be a good player and he’s still as I understand it under the age of twenty-five. That’s precisely the profile that Howie looks for when targeting trades.

 

Our pass-rush has been disappointing, given how many leads we've had. Teams have to throw and we've been ok. Graham's decline hasn't helped. I could see us taking a shot at Jerry Hughes, who can still be a good player on a limited snap basis.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Our pass-rush has been disappointing, given how many leads we've had. Teams have to throw and we've been ok. Graham's decline hasn't helped. I could see us taking a shot at Jerry Hughes, who can still be a good player on a limited snap basis.

I read that BG is getting a 13% pressure rate (similar to 2017)… not sure if I like the stat, but it did lead to CGJ’s 2nd INT.

The no-big play 2nd half defense isn’t the recipe for a ton of sacks.

30 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think TE is fine as it is, relatively speaking, but I would definitely want to upgrade S3 if someone is out there that is relatively cheap. I don't want Wallace having to step in and play a meaningful role.  

Yup, rather see Blankenship get a chance.

I liked the Wallace pick at the time, he was a versatile guy in college who could play deep in the box or nickel but so far in the pros he's been good at nothing.

Lack of talent is one thing but whenever he's on the field he just looks totally lost.

So yeah definitely need some one else at S3

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

Our pass-rush has been disappointing, given how many leads we've had. Teams have to throw and we've been ok. Graham's decline hasn't helped. I could see us taking a shot at Jerry Hughes, who can still be a good player on a limited snap basis.

EDGE is definitely my number 1 priority at the trade deadline.  The defense has been good but could be dominant with more consistent pressure on the opposing QB.

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I read that BG is getting a 13% pressure rate (similar to 2017)… not sure if I like the stat, but it did lead to CGJ’s 2nd INT.

The no-big play 2nd half defense isn’t the recipe for a ton of sacks.

Graham has been our only consistent pass rusher really. It's the rest of the line that has been somewhat disappointing as they're somewhat hit or miss. I think we noticed this last year as well when Graham got injured that our pass rush essentially disappeared.

1 minute ago, bitbased said:

Graham has been our only consistent pass rusher really. It's the rest of the line that has been somewhat disappointing as they're somewhat hit or miss. I think we noticed this last year as well when Graham got injured that our pass rush essentially disappeared.

I was hoping for some quick kills versus a rookie and Terrence Steele… but the boys did a good job sticking with the run most of the game, and had no problem dialing up runs versus our nickel D in 2nd and longs/passing situations.

30 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

And I got those numbers by taking the total number of receptions of non-Godert TEs (27) as a percentage of the total number of receptions (307) = 8.7%

This year it's 3 receptions out of 123 so far = 2.4%

If you'd rather look at targets it's 4/174 this year (2.3%) vs 45/468 last year (9.6%)

Why are you only looking at weeks 7-16? If it's because the numbers drop off after the Ertz trade that just proves my point further. We're not avoiding the TE2 because of scheme. We threw the ball to the TE2 more when we had a functional pass catching TE2. And we're not running THAT much less 12 personnel. 

According to ProFootballReference the 2021 Eagles 468 total targets of which Stoll had 5 targets Jackson had 7 targets Rogers had 2 targets  14/468 = 3.0%. 

If, as you appear to be doing, you go with receptions there were 307 receptions and Stoll had 4 of them Jackson had 3 and Rogers had 2  9/307 = 2.9%

For the record, Ertz had 31 targets and 18 receptions before he was traded. 

 

42 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

A single reception is not evidence man c'mon now.  

And I got those numbers by taking the total number of receptions of non-Godert TEs (27) as a percentage of the total number of receptions (307) = 8.7%

This year it's 3 receptions out of 123 so far = 2.4%

If you'd rather look at targets it's 4/174 this year (2.3%) vs 45/468 last year (9.6%)

Why are you only looking at weeks 7-16? If it's because the numbers drop off after the Ertz trade that just proves my point further. We're not avoiding the TE2 because of scheme. We threw the ball to the TE2 more when we had a functional pass catching TE2. And we're not running THAT much less 12 personnel. 

We changed the scheme at the same time as we committed to the run-centric offense.  Not because Ertz was gone.  Were you asleep?

Comeback from PEDs make a video 

 

36 minutes ago, RLC said:

Our pass-rush has been disappointing, given how many leads we've had. Teams have to throw and we've been ok. Graham's decline hasn't helped. I could see us taking a shot at Jerry Hughes, who can still be a good player on a limited snap basis.

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

According to ProFootballReference the 2021 Eagles 468 total targets of which Stoll had 5 targets Jackson had 7 targets Rogers had 2 targets  14/468 = 3.0%. 

If, as you appear to be doing, you go with receptions there were 307 receptions and Stoll had 4 of them Jackson had 3 and Rogers had 2  9/307 = 2.9%

For the record, Ertz had 31 targets and 18 receptions before he was traded. 

Right you're leaving our Ertz.  Who was the TE2 for the beginning of that year.  You can't just take his reception out of the equation entirely, it makes no sense.  

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

We changed the scheme at the same time as we committed to the run-centric offense.  Not because Ertz was gone.  Were you asleep?

You think Ertz leaving has nothing to do with the decrease in TE2 targets? Really? We're still running 12 personnel over 20% of the time (we ran it 25% of the time in 2021) so the players on the field haven't changed that much.  Stoll has been in there 40% of the snaps.  Calcanterra 10%.  That's anywhere from 40-50 percent of the snaps where at least one of those guys is in there.  All for a grand total of 3 receptions.  

Again it's far from priority #1 but acting as if there's not room to upgrade there is silly.