Just now, downundermike said:

Eagles currently have 29 players under contract for 2024.

They currently have $ 232,996.305 in cap liabilities.

With the projected cap of 256-260 million, they have 27 million in cap space, and need 24 players.

First, it is the projected cap. They are predicting $18-$20 per year, but it could be more. Secondly, you can't predict 2024 without knowing what 2023 looks like because of how these contracts flow.

You would have to make a guess on 2023 on who would be extended, cut, renegotiated, added, etc. before even trying to calculate out 2024. It is not even worth wasting time trying to figure it out. 2023 is the year you have to look at and Hurts contract would have no effect on that.

Your move Howie.............

 

 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It would go up some based on his signing bonus

You are correct, but it would be whatever the prorated part of that bonus would be and how they structured it.

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Been seeing some stuff on Twitter about Jerry Jeudy possibly going to Green Bay.

Saw that too. It’d make sense Gb after saying what they did about wanting a WR still on a rookie contract that they’d be after jeudy, toney, Elijah moore. Imo i think the packers need a speed/vertical stretch guy. They have no one on that roster besides watson who can give them that. And he can’t stay healthy and is a rookie. I still don’t get GB not taking a chance on will fuller who would cost basically peanuts against the cap and no draft comp and then go get jeudy. Your WR corps of fuller (for however long he stays healthy), jeudy and Lazard looks a hell of a lot better than just doing what they are doing. 

also saw they were interested in aj green. Unless they have a Delorean i don’t think he’s doing anything 

 

 

The Broncos make no sense. I know Jeudy has kinda been a bust, but what's the sense of trading for 33 year old Wilson to start selling off pieces? If they're retooling, by the time they're good again to put pieces around him he'll be like 35... and he may be cooked already as it is.

3 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You actually shared your post this morning in which you quoted me, that’s what I’m talking about.  I don’t care about a conversation you had with Manu.  Are you drunk?  

(1) What is it about that question that has anything to do with whether or not Jackson was a "solid rotational player?

(2) Do you know the difference between a question and a statement?

(3) The reason the reply to ManuManu is meaningful is that you argued that in a conversation with you I changed the subject from Edge to D-Line ... which never happened.

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Broncos make no sense. I know Jeudy has kinda been a bust, but what's the sense of trading for 33 year old Wilson to start selling off pieces? If they're retooling, by the time they're good again to put pieces around him he'll be like 35... and he may be cooked already as it is.

I can kinda understand trading Jeudy if you don’t wanna give him a 2nd contract because you don’t think he’s gonna be worth it and you can get good value out of him. He’s eligible for an extension after this year and need to either pick up his 5th year option or he’s a FA at the end of next year. I’m guessing they probably feel they can go into free agency or offseason with the picks acquired to find a receiver that’s gonna give them the same type of production that they’re getting out of Jeudy. I would only trade him if I didn’t think he was ever going to live up to the expectations they had and somebody’s willing to give me an overpay for him. I think there’s a potential that could happen.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I can kinda understand trading Jeudy if you don’t wanna give him a 2nd contract because you don’t think he’s gonna be worth it and you can get good value out of him. He’s eligible for an extension after this year and need to either pick up his 5th year option or he’s a FA at the end of next year. I’m guessing they probably feel they can go into free agency or offseason with the picks acquired to find a receiver that’s gonna give them the same type of production that they’re getting out of Jeudy. I would only trade him if I didn’t think he was ever going to live up to the expectations they had and somebody’s willing to give me an overpay for him. I think there’s a potential that could happen.

Have Sutton and Hamler, and Tim Patrick coming back from injury next year.  

They probably want to get more draft capital for 2023 after the Wilson trade, currently have 

3rd - own

3rd - Colts

4th - own

5th - own

6th - Steelers

7th - Vikings

9 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Have Sutton and Hamler, and Tim Patrick coming back from injury next year.  

They probably want to get more draft capital for 2023 after the Wilson trade, currently have 

3rd - own

3rd - Colts

4th - own

5th - own

6th - Steelers

7th - Vikings

Yeah. I think they’re bigger concern right now is they have to fix that offensive line because it’s not good. I’m guessing they believe in free agency and the draft they can find a wide receiver to replace jeudy and add to the current core. The picks they can acquire from him can be used to fix their oline. Russell Wilson has not looked good this year, but their oline has done him and even before Williams got hurt no favors. The money they don’t spend on jeudy and picks they get can go towards that bigger problem 

We are going to savage clap the Steelers 

39 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Tell me how that will happen.  Don't just say it, explain it.

Why? I explained how your 13.5 million figure for next season was way off, and you still didn't get it. 

You don't understand the cap. Your posting in the cap thread has proved that over and over. 

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

Why? I explained how your 13.5 million figure for next season was way off, and you still didn't get it. 

You don't understand the cap. Your posting in the cap thread has proved that over and over. 

You have yet to explain anything, all you said was they will have 40 million in space, and who they would restructure.

Give me some data, or go away.

1 minute ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

We are going to savage clap the Steelers 

fr we bussin

Just now, downundermike said:

You have yet to explain anything, all you said was they will have 40 million in space, and who they would restructure.

Give me some data, or go away.

How about you stop posting nonsense about that cap? You don't understand it and we are going on year 4 of you predicting cap armeggedon. Face it chicken little, the sky ain't falling. 

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

How about you stop posting nonsense about that cap? You don't understand it and we are going on year 4 of you predicting cap armeggedon. Face it chicken little, the sky ain't falling. 

@paco and I have been quite accurate about the cap.  We have projected the dead money, the fact that we would have to continue putting on 1 year bandaids, and that it will not get better until Howie decides to have a full rebuild year to stop dead cap restructuring.

Just because you don't get it is not my problem.

Either bring some facts/data to the table, or sit this one out. ( Or you could make me quit the board over it, it went so well for you last time. )

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

@paco and I have been quite accurate about the cap.  We have projected the dead money, the fact that we would have to continue putting on 1 year bandaids, and that it will not get better until Howie decides to have a full rebuild year to stop dead cap restructuring.

Just because you don't get it is not my problem.

Either bring some facts/data to the table, or sit this one out. ( Or you could make me quit the board over it, it went so well for you last time. )

Ok, if they have $13.5 million in cap space in 2023 i will quit the board. If they have more, you will quit. 

Your move, champ. 

 

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

@paco and I have been quite accurate about the cap.  We have projected the dead money, the fact that we would have to continue putting on 1 year bandaids, and that it will not get better until Howie decides to have a full rebuild year to stop dead cap restructuring.

Just because you don't get it is not my problem.

Either bring some facts/data to the table, or sit this one out. ( Or you could make me quit the board over it, it went so well for you last time. )

What do you mean by "full rebuild year".  Please add some specifics.  Thank you.

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

Ok, if they have $13.5 million in cap space in 2023 i will quit the board. If they have more, i will quit. 

Your move, champ. 

The cap is fluid.  When do we measure cap space for the purposes of this promise?

2 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Ok, if they have $13.5 million in cap space in 2023 i will quit the board. If they have more, you will quit. 

Your move, champ. 

I never said that is what they will have, I said that is what they have NOW.

Please give me the data how they will get to 40 million, show me the restructures.

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

@paco and I have been quite accurate about the cap.  We have projected the dead money, the fact that we would have to continue putting on 1 year bandaids, and that it will not get better until Howie decides to have a full rebuild year to stop dead cap restructuring.

Just because you don't get it is not my problem.

Either bring some facts/data to the table, or sit this one out. ( Or you could make me quit the board over it, it went so well for you last time. )

I haven't been on top of it as much as I usually am.  I blame the 17 month old rugrat in my house.

 

The roll over is what, $9,468,798 right now?  (Quinn doesn't even hit the the top 51 cutoff  )  OTC is showing $2,597,492 in cap plus $28,294,034 in dead cap.  But we both know that isn't the correct dead cap hit since its not taking into account the void year roll up yet.  I think you most recently figured out the 2023 dead cap hit, do you know what that is by any chance?

2 minutes ago, paco said:

I haven't been on top of it as much as I usually am.  I blame the 17 month old rugrat in my house.

 

The roll over is what, $9,468,798 right now?  (Quinn doesn't even hit the the top 51 cutoff  )  OTC is showing $2,597,492 in cap plus $28,294,034 in dead cap.  But we both know that isn't the correct dead cap hit since its not taking into account the void year roll up yet.  I think you most recently figured out the 2023 dead cap hit, do you know what that is by any chance?

Give me a bit, bout to take my lunch hour and watch Andor, will check it out when I am back on the clock.

Just now, downundermike said:

Give me a bit, bout to take my lunch hour and watch Andor, will check it out when I am back on the clock.

No worries, just was curious.

 

Looking at 2023, there really aren't a lot of levers to pull.  Ironically, Quinn is the best candidate to restructure.  I hope Howie just waits until the offseason to assess his effectiveness in this scheme.

8 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

What do you mean by "full rebuild year".  Please add some specifics.  Thank you.

The cap is fluid.  When do we measure cap space for the purposes of this promise?

The bet is pretty clear. DUM thinks we will have $13.5 million in cap space in 2023. That means the team will have that much money to spend on players not currently under contract for 2023.

I say the actual number is closer to $40 million. That means we will have that amount to spend on player contracts.

The cap is fluid, but cap spending is not. Once you spend a dollar, it is spent. The fluid part is that the team can create cap room, which they will next season. Based on his posting, DUM's argument is that they won't do that, and only have that amount to spend.