13 minutes ago, RLC said:

Searching for the next Logan Thomas has caused so many teams issues. Chasing outliers is bad.

 

Like this one?

 

39 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

At the end of the day he forced is way out with a trade and that just isn't worth of an ovation. 

In hindsight this isn’t the right move but I still wouldn’t have traded him, definitely wouldn’t have let him choose his destination. 

I’d let him pout on the bench for a season if need be 

12 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

In hindsight this isn’t the right move but I still wouldn’t have traded him, definitely wouldn’t have let him choose his destination. 

I’d let him pout on the bench for a season if need be 

 

I don't think he necessarily did choose his destination.  It wasn't like teams were knocking down the Eagles door to trade for him.  He was absolutely putrid in 2020 and again reports surfaced of anonymous locker room sources trashing him.  Most people believed if the Eagles were able to trade him then it would be a Brock Osweiller situation where the Eagles would have to trade a high pick along with Wentz to unload him and his contract. 

Total heist that the Colts ended up trading what they did.  I very much doubt they could have gotten a better offer from another team. 

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

reports surfaced of anonymous locker room sources trashing him.

Alshon Jeffrey, a guy who stole money from the Eagles after the Super Bowl.

22 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

In hindsight this isn’t the right move but I still wouldn’t have traded him, definitely wouldn’t have let him choose his destination. 

I’d let him pout on the bench for a season if need be 

There were only two teams interested (IND and CHI) and the Bears wouldn't offer anything more than a 2nd and 3rd round pick.  

Tate is actually a NFL player:

2019, Tate saw 80 targets, hauled in 40 catches for 575 yards, a 14.7 yards-per-catch average, and one touchdown while starting in 10 games.

In 2019, Tate had a contested-catch rate of 39.3%, which was a top-20 score in the NFL in that category. 

The last two seasons he was targeted 26 times, 17 catches for a 65% catch rate.

Tate has a PFF career receiving grade of 71.2.

He's slow and not that athletic, but he has long arms and can high point balls.

I don't think they're converting him, rather, he's Brown/Pascal insurance as the underneath and red zone target.

Good to see most people have not lost their minds.

 

 

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Good to see most people have not lost their minds.

 

 

Racists.

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Tate is actually a NFL player:

2019, Tate saw 80 targets, hauled in 40 catches for 575 yards, a 14.7 yards-per-catch average, and one touchdown while starting in 10 games.

Tate has a PFF career receiving grade of 71.2.

I would like to see that PFF grade if you have access.  His best season was the 2019 you pointed out, but the grade I see for that season is 70.5.

I don't see how his other 3 seasons of 21 catches on 38 target increase that 70.5

There are 16 players on the PS these days.  4 or 5 of them get swapped out fairly often. I know analysis is what we do here but I don't think the last member of the PS needs to be overthought. My two cents

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

That’s all he’s got.  Until he finds another tweet of someone else’s opinion.  

It’s better than insults, I suppose. 

24 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

There were only two teams interested (IND and CHI) and the Bears wouldn't offer anything more than a 2nd and 3rd round pick.  

Then I would have told him to suck it up and play. Or holdout if he wants to. 

28 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

There are 16 players on the PS these days.  4 or 5 of them get swapped out fairly often. I know analysis is what we do here but I don't think the last member of the PS needs to be overthought. My two cents

A very generous use of 'analysis'.

14 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Then I would have told him to suck it up and play. Or holdout if he wants to. 

It was a mutual decision to move on, though.  Before Doug was fired he expressed the intention to move forward with Hurts as the starter for 2021.  That PC Howie and Doug did where they said Wentz leaving would be like "losing a finger" .... well, Howie might be a leper -- because Doug and Wentz were both gone shortly afterward  

34 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

There are 16 players on the PS these days.  4 or 5 of them get swapped out fairly often. I know analysis is what we do here but I don't think the last member of the PS needs to be overthought, unless it is a way we can say something nice about Howie Roseman. My two cents

FYP

11 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

Kind of agree he needs to blitz a bit more but he was doing that more as the year ended last year. In all fairness, Gannon didn’t get a lot of new pieces last year.  The "coverage” LB, Eric Wilson was a failure and his replacements (Taylor until injured, then Singleton) were always five yards late.  That seems key to his defense.  Plus McLeod was a step slow and Harris was so uphill that to get downhill gave up yards.  Now a lot of times there was a gap between Harris and Nelson that was because both were playing soft zone.  I think we are going to see Bradberry playing match zone, which he excels at and more of Slay playing MEG.  I think we will see Maddox continue to play some MES and some MOD.  I do think Gannon likes his Ss playing downhill and I think the blitzing will primarily come from the Ss and LBs.  We will see Reddick, Sweat and even Barnett drop in coverage so Gannon can mix things up a bit.  One thing that drove me crazy, especially early last year was how the DBs gave up the disguises early by dropping too early.  Interestingly, the ones I thought were the worse culprits, Nelson, McLeod and Harris, in that order, are all gone. 

11 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

What kind of ovation does Wentz get when he comes back to Philly in November?

I think more than not folks felt he quit on the team due to his ego and will be treated accordingly.  The sulking and refusing to talk with Doug, and Doug’s willingness to tolerate it, cost Doug his job as much as his play calling fading to predictability.  I think Doug will be greeted more cordially.  

12 hours ago, downundermike said:

@RLC if the game has passed former players bye, should I throw out this opinion ??

 

What is "the right stuff"?

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think more than not folks felt he quit on the team due to his ego and will be treated accordingly.  The sulking and refusing to talk with Doug, and Doug’s willingness to tolerate it, cost Doug his job as much as his play calling fading to predictability.  I think Doug will be greeted more cordially.  

Coaches get treated differently

10 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think more than not folks felt he quit on the team due to his ego and will be treated accordingly.  The sulking and refusing to talk with Doug, and Doug’s willingness to tolerate it, cost Doug his job as much as his play calling fading to predictability.  I think Doug will be greeted more cordially.  

 

Doug will get a huge ovation and I would imagine a tribute video played beforehand. No reason for fans to boo Doug. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So you are against something the FO is doing?  

There's a lot of decisions they did I disagreed with: resigning Cox, giving any money to Joe Flacco, signing any veterans last year in general in what should have been a rebuilding year, not getting a legitimate #2TE, not trading Ertz at the 2021 draft, etc.

3 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

The churning begins.  Love McMullen’s speculation that he is going to be used as a flex TE because the Eagles worked out TEs.

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

What is "the right stuff"?

25 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It was a mutual decision to move on, though.  Before Doug was fired he expressed the intention to move forward with Hurts as the starter for 2021.  That PC Howie and Doug did where they said Wentz leaving would be like "losing a finger" .... well, Howie might be a leper -- because Doug and Wentz were both gone shortly afterward  

 

When did Doug ever express an intention to move forward with Hurts as the starter for 2021?

It certainly wasn't a mutual decision to move on.  Eagles were selling coaching candidates during the interview process the idea that Wentz would be their QB.  Wentz was making it clear to the Eagles he had no intentions of returning if Howie was still around. Eagles (Lurie) chose Howie.