3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Because that's our gameplan?

To get a competitive advantage.  Just like hiding who the PR was going to be.  

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It was a lot of stuff like this

I don't think it's necessarily a penalty though. Hurts begins his slide late as the Lions players lunges forward. Not sure what they expect the defender to do in this situation. 

The defender, Hutchison, was not in the act of tackling when Hurts began his slide.  I thought that one should have been a penalty. 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

To get a competitive advantage.  Just like hiding who the PR was going to be.  

That's not very Dawg Mentality like 

22 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Guys, we're screwed.

 

At the end of the day, Siri’s job is to win the game. I see nothing wrong with what he’s saying. He’s playing the cards that he’s dealt. 

17 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I'd like to know the exact number of times Hurts threw the ball away yesterday.  I suspect the numbers feels higher than it actually was because each throw away was so memorable (either ugly or dangerous).  What's noteworthy about it, however, was that every single throwaway was almost unquestionably and clearly an instance in which he was caught in the flat while trying to run with it...but was caught behind the LOS and managed to throw it away.

 

This is information that can be used to manipulate the stats in a few ways. 

1. The humpers can definitely argue that his completion percentage was functionally higher than reflected in the stats because these weren't true passing throwaways.  They were busted running plays.  

2.  Might want to re-evaluate the run-pass ratio because those plays really ought to be tabulated as runs and subtracted from the pass total.  That might further illustrate how it would be difficult to get Sanders more carries when so many plays with Hurts are already predictable runs...if you allow Hurts to run at this rate and expect to drop back and actually get completions, there aren't enough plays for Sanders to get more involved.

I think the number was 3, including a non-called intentional grounding, where he was half-sliding while grounding it while being inside the pocket and the ball never reached the LOS.  

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Did I miss a bunch of non-calls on Hurts being hit?  I know the one play where the player got ejected was a late hit (I didn't think it was that egregious to be honest).  I see lots of people complaining about it and Sirianni was asked about it.

Walker was ejected for fighting after the whistle, not for the late hit 

17 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Did I miss a bunch of non-calls on Hurts being hit?  I know the one play where the player got ejected was a late hit (I didn't think it was that egregious to be honest).  I see lots of people complaining about it and Sirianni was asked about it.

He was bumped into in the backfield after handing off on one occasion, and on a lot of slides he was fallen on top of.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Walker was ejected for fighting after the whistle, not for the late hit 

Yup.  He took a swing at Pascal, I think.

 

34 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Also, how long is Milton Williams leash?  I've been less than impressed by him.

Just now, BigEFly said:

The defender, Hutchison, was not in the act of tackling when Hurts began his slide.  I thought that one should have been a penalty. 

And when you put the QB in that position innumerable times per game, the benefit of the doubt transitions to the defense on bang-bang plays.  When you've got a franchise golden boy doing it a couple times per game, he'll get protected.  

1 hour ago, GroundAttack said:

 

Let's trade Dillard for Robert Quinn.  

17 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I used to pity teams that committed to offenses like this.  Some of that may be coach speak, but at some point, you take the man at his word and have to assume he just doesn't know any better.

As long as they don't commit money to him, I guess I can get behind it for this year.   Seems that they have no interest in truly developing him as a passer... and are just waiting until they can get a new QB.

Barnett’s injury is unfortunate but at the same time he’s been less and less effective each year. Probably a few weeks out but this is a perfect set up for Howie to trade for a pass rusher which I’m betting happens at some point. 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He was bumped into in the backfield after handing off on one occasion, and on a lot of slides he was fallen on top of.

Yup.  He took a swing at Pascal, I think.

I thought it was because he got 2 personal foul/unnecessary roughness penalties (one for the hit, the other for the swing).  Had only one of them been unnecessary roughness he would have stayed in the game if I'm not mistaken.

@ManuManu Frost fired, a bit late, but done. 

17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

This answer is well and good after a win, but after a loss when the question becomes "why isn't your QB distributing the ball to his playmakers?" it becomes harder to be dismissive

That's when the truth will come out... "That's really not his skill set."

This anyone on here?  If not, gives me hope there are more out there.  

Kracz is a blowhard.

 

15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It was a lot of stuff like this

I don't think it's necessarily a penalty though. Hurts begins his slide late as the Lions players lunges forward. Not sure what they expect the defender to do in this situation. 

They called Alex Singleton of unnecessary roughness in a play just like this against Carolina last year.  I think it's definitely a case of act like a runner and get treated like one.  

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

The defender, Hutchison, was not in the act of tackling when Hurts began his slide.  I thought that one should have been a penalty. 

I think it was pretty bang bang. Compared to the alternative of sticking his cleat in his back, I think falling on top of him was the only thing he could do

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

I'll take, "Throws that Hurts can't make for 200, Alex"

With this offense, I'd much prefer a WR corps of Brown/Pascal/Watkins/Ward and the 2021 #10 pick utilized anywhere but WR.

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I thought it was because he got 2 personal foul/unnecessary roughness penalties (one for the hit, the other for the swing).  Had only one of them been unnecessary roughness he would have stayed in the game if I'm not mistaken.

Taking a swing has always been an ejection.

6 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Barnett’s injury is unfortunate but at the same time he’s been less and less effective each year. Probably a few weeks out but this is a perfect set up for Howie to trade for a pass rusher which I’m betting happens at some point. 

He's probably going to have to burn a 3rd or 4th round pick on a 1-2 year rental DE in the coming weeks.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'll take, "Throws that Hurts can't make for 200, Alex"

I'll go $100,000 Pyramid 

'Things You'll Never See in a Hurts Highlight Package'

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

They called Alex Singleton of unnecessary roughness in a play just like this against Carolina last year.  I think it's definitely a case of act like a runner and get treated like one.  

Off the top of my head, I think the refs actually did a solid job (minus the Hockensen catch but I think that was mostly due to the call on the field). They mostly let them play. And if people want to gripe out not getting late hits called, Lions fans can gripe about a few missed intentional grounding and delay of game penalties.