4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

No doubt. 

 

Knows a good book when he sees one. Would be a shame to let him sit on the shelf. 

We just have to hope Howie doesn't leave to accept a plum defensive coordinator job .... 

10 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

No I think you forgot being down 31-0 going into the 4th qter vs Tampa in the playoffs. 

 

Yeah that was all on Jalen Hurts.  The rest of the team played fantastic that game. 

10 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

No I think you forgot being down 31-0 going into the 4th qter vs Tampa in the playoffs. 

 

Yeah that was all on Jalen Hurts.  The rest of the team played fantastic that game. 

1 minute ago, Texas Eagle said:

Dinner time? Where are you? Or are you on night shift?

Florida. Dinner starts at 1PM sharp. 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Alright, that's enough bickering for me. It's dinner time soon and I need to take a 5 hour nap so I can manage to make it to 8:15PM to watch a 6'5" white QB with a rocket arm. 

 

 

Justin Herbert is 6'6", and the other guy who I would take over Hurts in a second, is 6'3" and not white.

2 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

He does it intentionally and then all of you rush to defend him? Seeing the hypocrisy here when you criticize everyone else?

Your sense of reality in many ways is really distorted.

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Why wouldn't Sirianni be OK with Howie making sure he's activating the right players? 

I read it as Howie gets final say

Just now, jsb235 said:

Your sense of reality in many ways is really distorted.

Comical coming from you

@RememberTheKoy

 

1st play in the clip - Hurts can give it to the RB, but doesn't. Must be coaches fault!

2nd play - He fakes a handoff to a ghost, has a guy wide open in the flat, but of course, he runs! Coaches fault!

3:33 left in the 1st q, again, can give the ball to the RB, but pulls it for a pass. Actually passes it to the RB, because he has great protection. Be still my heart!

Next play, no pressure on him, clean pocket, naw....he's gonna run. Coaches fault!!

 

I'm going to stop there, because it's pretty clear my point has been made

Q: If you support Jalen Hurts and believe he is a good QB, do you even know football?

 

A: Maybe this much.

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Here's a very simple football concept for you, the coaches can call a designed run play. 

Designed run plays are move obvious than RO or RPO run plays, and that type of offense works when you can go play action after designed runs.  The limits in Hurts as a passer force the coaches to use a RO/RPO offense instead of a conventional NFL offense based on running, passing and play action.

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

Yeah that was all on Jalen Hurts.  The rest of the team played fantastic that game. 

But does Hurt's play style and limitations as QB not take any fault in that game?? Are you saying he had nothing to do with the fact our offense couldnt score a single point in 3 qters?

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I read it as Howie gets final say

They have said it multiple times, Howie and Nick, that Howie controls the 53 and the 47.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Designed run plays are move obvious than RO or RPO run plays, and that type of offense works when you can go play action after designed runs.  The limits in Hurts as a passer force the coaches to use a RO/RPO offense instead of a conventional NFL offense based on running, passing and play action.

We run a heavy RO offense....and so in that, Hurts is the ultimate decider of when it's a run. For RTK to insist Hurts has no input resulted in me declaring his head is firmly entrenched in Hurts small intestines. 

6 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Why wouldn't Sirianni be OK with Howie making sure he's activating the right players? 

Because it implies a lack of trust in Sirianni's ability to confer with his coordinators on his own to make the judgement call himself. Just another example of micromanaging that we'd probably poke fun of if it were happening with the skins, giants, or cryboys.

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

@RememberTheKoy

 

1st play in the clip - Hurts can give it to the RB, but doesn't. Must be coaches fault!

2nd play - He fakes a handoff to a ghost, has a guy wide open in the flat, but of course, he runs! Coaches fault!

3:33 left in the 1st q, again, can give the ball to the RB, but pulls it for a pass. Actually passes it to the RB, because he has great protection. Be still my heart!

Next play, no pressure on him, clean pocket, naw....he's gonna run. Coaches fault!!

 

I'm going to stop there, because it's pretty clear my point has been made

 

 

I'm sorry, I missed the rule change where the coaching staff is only allowed to call RPO and they aren't allowed to call designed runs. Coaches deserve no criticism here. 

And while we are at it let's also absolve Gannon of any blame or criticism because at the end of the day I think we can all agree that Hurts was also to blame for how the defense performed. 

16 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

 

These two posts back-to-back are pure gold.

so you dont understand irony either....gotcha

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

I'm sorry, I missed the rule change where the coaching staff is only allowed to call RPO and they aren't allowed to call designed runs. Coaches deserve no criticism here. 

And while we are at it let's also absolve Gannon of any blame or criticism because at the end of the day I think we can all agree that Hurts was also to blame for how the defense performed. 

Keep your strawmen in the cornfields pal. 

Hurts lacks the intelligence/arm talent to run a traditional WCO. So the coaches are smart enough to adapt to his ability, limited as it is. 

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

We just have to hope Howie doesn't leave to accept a plum defensive coordinator job .... 

I said it once half joking, but this is our next DC. People better start mentally preparing.

He has reportedly been at camp too.

And, check it.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Designed run plays are move obvious than RO or RPO run plays, and that type of offense works when you can go play action after designed runs.  The limits in Hurts as a passer force the coaches to use a RO/RPO offense instead of a conventional NFL offense based on running, passing and play action.

Um, the RPO IS play action.

Also, we run a ton of play action even when it's not an RPO.

3 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

But does Hurt's play style and limitations as QB not take any fault in that game?? Are you saying he had nothing to do with the fact our offense couldnt score a single point in 3 qters?

 

Hurts had a really bad game against Tampa for sure.  But he was far from being alone in that.  Everyone else in the team from the coaches to the players were terrible with the exceptions of Ryan Kerrigan and DeVonta Smith. 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

I'm sorry, I missed the rule change where the coaching staff is only allowed to call RPO and they aren't allowed to call designed runs. Coaches deserve no criticism here. 

And while we are at it let's also absolve Gannon of any blame or criticism because at the end of the day I think we can all agree that Hurts was also to blame for how the defense performed. 

This is a poster that fails to realize in the modern NFL you have to score points to win.  Gone are the days of defenses dominating, this is an offensive league lead by passing attacks.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Florida. Dinner starts at 1PM sharp. 

Isn't that supper? 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

Keep your strawmen in the cornfields pal. 

Hurts lacks the intelligence/arm talent to run a traditional WCO. So the coaches are smart enough to adapt to his ability, limited as it is. 

 

He lacks the intelligence and arm talent to hand the ball off on a designed run? 

1 minute ago, justrelax said:

Um, the RPO IS play action.

Also, we run a ton of play action even when it's not an RPO.

Tell RTK that, not me, he is saying the coaches should call designed  runs, so if RPO is play action, it is also designed runs, and up to the QB to put the ball in the belly of the RB and let him run.

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

 

He lacks the intelligence and arm talent to hand the ball off on a designed run? 

Yes. Watch the video I posted. He, like Cam Newton before him, is selfish, and he refuses to allow the RBs to shine. So, if he has the OPTION to hand it off, when our RBs are gaining 5.7 yards per clip, he'd rather pull it down and run it himself, so he can "get freaky", as he himself said. 

He lacks the arm talent to run a consistent offense that moves in a rhythm. He's not accurate or consistent enough.